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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • Gods can't be followers or high priests for obvious reasons.
  • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
  • No hype profiles, please.
    • So you ask, what exactly is 'hype profile'? It is a profile based on ongoing events that hasn't been around very long, but generates a lot of hype, possibly because of elements such as Wham Episode or Memetic Mutation or Large Ham or overall 'OMGAWESOME!!!' They're all not bad tropes, but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time). You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but don't make the profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
  • DO. NOT. put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, don't do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, do yourself a favor and delete it from that main page. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good & Evil Colors.
  • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
    • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
    • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
    • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
    • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to the Treasures or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Treasures or Dominions.
  • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
  • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
  • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you're only given three chances on such. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what's currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction.
  • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
  • Please use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, or something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted.
  • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this god has spots in other houses as well.
  • When writing facts/trivia about gods, try not to contradict what has already been written elsewhere.
  • When writing down the name of a Theme Song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name.
  • When adding an image for your God, make sure that it is not too big unless you wish to write more about the god you have chosen.
  • If you feel the need to remove a god for some reason and replace him/her with another, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. If you're lucky (and they're from the same franchise), maybe both of them can share the title "Gods of (Insert Trope Here)".
  • Certain tropes can have more than one God. It is not advisable, but it is not forbidden. Just ensure that this second God will bring in new flavor of the trope. If you have doubts on how to bring the other flavors, consult the Trope Pantheon Discussion forum. Case in point: In the original Greek Mythology (and later Roman Mythology), both Ares/Mars and Athena/Minerva share the title of 'God/Goddess of War', and even then, they differ in flavor: Ares is about brutal warfare, Athena is about war strategies and finesse, while Mars took up some of Athena's elements that he kinda differs out than Ares. If the original myth can do this, why the hell not for the Pantheon?
  • Be creative! If you need some time to work out your potential deity's profile, use the Pending Gods or Pending Gods 2 page to get help. Incomplete and/or low-quality entries are more likely to get deleted or replaced.
  • When writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. See also the Rules section. Especially the 1st bullet point.
  • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name.
  • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it's well advised not to abuse them. Aside from introducing too many niche concepts, there are still chances for new tropes related to your chosen deity's title to be launched through YKTTW...
    • Additionally however, the only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. IE: Their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they're closely associated with In-Universe, or both (example: Gangplank and his oranges).
  • Maximum number of tropes what a god should have is three, but don't try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused.
  • Some series will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps, as well. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it's because they're a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they're connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  • As far as deities from actual mythologies (Greco-Roman, Norse, Japanese, etc.) are concerned, try not to replicate the default myths about their characters and use a fictional counterpart instead. In other words, if you want to use the Greek/Roman god Ares/Mars, you can't add him as the "God of War", but you can use him as part of another trope as long as it's a different version of him. For example:
    • Zeus, while having elements of his persona from Classical Mythology, draws more from his portrayal in the God of War Series.
    • Thor and Loki's Pantheon portrayals are influenced heavily by their appearances in their Marvel Comics series.
    • Amaterasu is a woman in her Japanese mythology portrayal, but her Pantheon counterpart is the dog goddess from Ōkami.
  • Don't depend too much on the hype/meme train, don't just jump onto that train willy-nilly in order to put on some events or entry in the Pantheon. It might not last very long or represent the trope best. This is Trope Pantheons, not Trope Hype Train!
  • Unless the character proposed is specifically from the Abridged version, the character should represent the tropes in their canon selves. If they also happen to possess the trait of the Abridged self, good! But otherwise, get the abridged stuff onto just the flavor texts.
  • To prevent any surprising need to rework profiles due to new development, please restrain from ascending gods from a series before the thing is either released or for longer-running series, there is a good enough of a break from story. This also applies to already existing series if there is a new thing coming out.
  • Please be sure to ask in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you don't waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
    • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else.
  • It is much more recommended to word the title like "God of X" instead of "The God that Xs". This will give off the vibe the God actually ruled over that trope instead of just 'did X', giving more credentials to how it's the best example of the trope.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Deity Template 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Potential House:
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity. This doesn't always have to be a representation of power, but it can also represent influence in the Pantheon.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Song that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D.
  • Gender: For Pokémon deities only. Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
  • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
  • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies.
  • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals.
  • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes.
  • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that have various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.) other than allies, rivals, or enemies.
  • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Pokémon.
  • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
  • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or find pitiable.
  • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by, regardless of alignment.
  • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.

Edited by nombretomado on Aug 25th 2019 at 9:19:10 AM

SuperWIKI1 Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Married to the job
Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector
Sep 21st 2019 at 5:57:14 PM

Oh yeah....I mean the Joker's my role model so...

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA....smiles for Mr. G and D today!!

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Sep 21st 2019 at 8:58:03 PM

KAITO KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Donnietu from Stockton, CA Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:01:29 PM

I was trying to look for some suggestions for this lady below. What I got instead are posts related to Batman. I mean, I like Batman as well, but....

Eve Harrington, Goddess of Subverted Suspicion Aesop (Gertrude Slojinski)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/anne_baxter_all_about_eve.JPG
  • Quasideity
  • Symbol: The Sarah Siddons Award for Distinguished Achievement
  • Theme Song: This
  • Alignment: Neutral Evil
  • Portfolio: Affably Evil, Ambition Is Evil, Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, threatens to tell Margo how Karen helped her unless Karen convinces Lloyd to cast her in his play, The Chessmaster, Extreme Doormat towards Margo, envious towards Margo’s success, It's All About Me, Loony Fan, Manipulative Bastard, Naďve Newcomer (or at least what she pretends to be), Smug Snake
  • Domains: Theater, Ambition, Manipulation, Backstabbing
  • Allies:
  • Rivals: Norma Desmond
  • Enemies:
  • Mixed relations with: The House of Theater
  • Eve Harrington is an aspiring actress, dreaming of herself becoming a wonderful Broadway star one day. She claimed to have followed her idol Margo Channing’s every performance, from San Francisco to New York City, and it isn’t long before she got to meet Margo and was eventually given the chance to be her understudy. This turned out to be a mistake as Eve is revealed to be a mistress of manipulation, who is not truly admiring of Margo, but rather envious. Over time, Eve more or less takes over Margo’s entire life, and as Eve’s power and fame rise, Margo’s falls rapidly. Ultimately, all of this resulted in Eve receiving the Sarah Siddons Award for being Broadway's best actress. It didn’t take long before the Main House read up on how a seeming naive person like Eve would turn out to be anything but that, and as such, she was given dominion over the trope Subverted Suspicion Aesop.
  • She is often seen acting in the House of Theater. For the most part, the House seems to be okay with her as long as she is a good actress. However, many of the members condemn her for backstabbing Margo, whom they’d be concerned with if she ever ascends.
    • One of the house’s residents, Norma Desmond, has her own reasons for despising her as she is concerned that Eve’s star power would hinder on any possibility of her making a “return.” Eve herself finds Norma to be somewhat similar to Margo and has no problem with taking on certain roles that Norma is also interested in playing.

Edited by Donnietu on Sep 21st 2019 at 6:04:32 AM

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
yugi195 Superlex from Lexcorp Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Superlex
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:03:04 PM

@CrimsonShark I don't agree, but I suppose if Alan Moore could not like The Killing Joke, not liking The Dark Knight isn't so crazy.

It's time to stop being selfish. The world needs Lex Luthor.
SuperWIKI1 Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Married to the job
Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:05:49 PM

[up] High hopes for the upcoming Joker film...

[up][up] Beg your pardon, Eve could either have a rivalry or friendship with Mrs. Robinson. Both are manipulative bitches in sheep's clothing who only care about themselves. It's just that Mrs. Robinson has talents more suited for seducing and controlling via love. Don't understand what Eve's specific talents are but there you go. A girl named Margo happens to be the eldest daughter of Gru, take it however you will.

@Crimson: When you start engaging the FLAME SHIELD, it's a sign that this Batman discussion is going way too far. Let's steer it out of these dangerous water or via Pm shall we? Maybe you, me and yugi can talk via Pm before people start getting annoyed?

[down] Not feeling it, sorry....

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Sep 21st 2019 at 9:12:13 PM

KAITO KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:07:19 PM

Some time ago I had suggested Amicia and Hugo de Rune for the Noble Fugitive trope, but I never really got an answer for that.

CrimsonShark HE FAWKING LEFT THE BAND?!?! from Nowhere in the Universe. Still Floating Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
HE FAWKING LEFT THE BAND?!?!
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:07:32 PM

[up][up][up] I respect your opinion. And there are merits in the Dark Knight Trilogy. And lastly, I'm cool with anyone's opinion as long we remain respectful.

[up][up][up][up] Maybe try to see if there are any evil or morally low actors for her. Just dunno which one, but I'll do my best to let you know if I'm able to find any.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Sep 21st 2019 at 2:08:18 PM

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:10:37 PM

Ladies, ladies. If ya'll want to discuss the merits of Batman, try and take it to PM. We don't exactly want the channel to be swarmed by Bat comments.

Time to explore the world!
SuperWIKI1 Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Married to the job
Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:11:56 PM

Wait, ladies?? I'm a boy....errr I mean, man!

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Sep 21st 2019 at 9:28:47 PM

KAITO KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fasoman1996 Angry pure boi from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Angry pure boi
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:12:07 PM

Wait until we get to Leif Erikson day next month

OW 2 hypemon
yugi195 Superlex from Lexcorp Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Superlex
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:16:39 PM

[up][up] Why are you making it sound like we were having some big fight here? We were just having a brief discussion about The Dark Knight. At worst, we were holding up the forum, which I can understand, but we weren't fighting or flaming each other.

Edited by yugi195 on Sep 21st 2019 at 8:18:38 AM

It's time to stop being selfish. The world needs Lex Luthor.
CrimsonShark HE FAWKING LEFT THE BAND?!?! from Nowhere in the Universe. Still Floating Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
HE FAWKING LEFT THE BAND?!?!
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:20:56 PM

Causing a heated argument/flame war is the last thing I'd do. Plus I don't have any experience in those (That I'm lucky about) so I'm doing my best to keep it that way.

Plus I've got better things to be more concerned about.

SuperWIKI1 Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Married to the job
Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:21:25 PM

Yeah, but I'm getting worried about the more strict users admonishing us and I'm not willing to take that risk. I'm a guy who always expects the worst.....

My apologies.

KAITO KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:41:36 PM

It's nobody's fault. I'm just worried somebody less patient will comment on this Bat-discussion in a less than polite manner.

No names will be mentioned.

Time to explore the world!
SuperWIKI1 Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Married to the job
Ginzo Nakamori, Inspector
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:47:21 PM

OK, going out for today so I'll leave this out to dry for suggestions.

Prototype mode

Kinderheim 511, Unholy Seat of Terrible Orphanages
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kinderheim_511.png
Kinderheim 511 after being burned down, as seen from the east facade
  • Description: An old mansion with a grand staircase in former East Germany
  • Symbol: Neutral Evil, but turns out mostly Chaotic Evil graduates
  • Portfolio: Orphanage of Fear, Staff And Orphans In Constant Conflict, Run By the East German Ministry Of Health and Ministry Of Internal Affairs, Was Created To Make Perfect Soldiers But Got Exterminated By Its Best One
  • Domains: Communism, Death, Indoctrination, Nihilism, Socialism, Soldiers, War
  • (Not) Sacred to: Johan Liebert, Kenzo Tenma
  • Located in former East Berlin, Kinderheim 511 is a special orphanage run by the defunct Internal Department. It housed orphans who were the children of criminals, political activists, traitors, and spies, people who under the Soviet East German regime given not even the most basic of human rights. These children are subject to inhumane discrimination by immoral and corrupt staff, with only the most grudging care being given to their survival. For example, packages sent to the children are stolen by instructors and directors and resold.
  • Intended to turn children into obedient soldiers subservient to the East German government, experiments are conducted on them such as desensitizing them to violence, endless rounds of brainwashing to produce catharsis as well as other modes of human programming and negative reinforcement. If things go well, the orphan's sense of self (including being addressed by number instead of name) as well as emotion would be destroyed. Studies were made into how the orphans mentally evolved towards selfishness and fear then eventually to hate and fight amongst themselves. This philosophy would prove to be the orphanage's undoing.
  • Kinderheim 511 was indirectly based on the eugenics experiment of Czech psychologist Franz Bonaparta. Ironically, one of the twins born from said experiment, Johan Liebert, would turn out to be one of the most successful alumni of the orphanage due to his already fraught childhood under the watch of Bonaparta and Petr Čapek. Johan and his sister Anna were found unconscious on the Czech-German border by General Helmut Wolf. While Anna was sent to the more ordinary Kinderheim 47 run by the Welfare Department, Johan's sociopathic tendencies were noted and General Wolf signed off on the paperwork for him to be sent to Kinderheim 511. The higher-ups at the orphanage were curious at his exceptional behaviour surpassing the program's parameters and subjected him to a forced interview under chemical treatment to determine how far this went, which can be found here.
  • When he grew tired of being at the orphanage, he spread rumours throughout the orphanage of a boy put on sleeping pills and how terrifying he was, encouraging the other orphans to rebel and use the skills of said boy to manipulate their instructors to hate the directors. He stretched the mental health of everyone in the orphanage to breaking point, which led to the deaths of its highest-ranking officers. Chaos ensued in the battle for succession, culminating in the entire population of the orphanage killing each other in a bloody massacre. Johan just watched serenely from his chair on the orphanage's grand staircase as a fire broke out and completely razed the orphanage, with only a few survivors. After the fire, the East German government halted all operations and experiments in Kinderheim 511. All documents pertaining to the orphanage were burnt and disposed of, and most of its surviving staff fled Germany for neighbouring countries like the Czech Republic when the Berlin Wall fell.
  • As of the end of the series, the fates of those related to the orphanage and its administration are as follows:
    • Hartmann, a high-ranking member of the Ministry of Health still lived in the vicinity of the orphanage years after its disbandment. He was attempting to turn his adopted child Dieter into another Johan Liebert by applying the Kinderheim 511 methods on him. He was later arrested.
    • Mikhail Petrov (formerly Reinhart Biermann) escaped 511 before the fateful massacre, and is implied to be a supervising director of the orphanage. Possibly to atone for his past actions, he adopted a group of orphans illegally and raised them in the opposite way the Kinderheim 511 orphans were raised. He was one of those killed in Johan's bloody swath to eliminate all who knew of his existence. It is likely that he conducted the interview mentioned above.
    • Helmut Wolf later became part of a neo-Nazi society seeking to control Johan Liebert and make him the next Hitler. He notably does not share the anti-Semitic interests of the others, only seeking Johan so he could have him detained or killed to end his threat to humanity once and for all. Johan would get the upper hand and kill everyone who knew Wolf personally, with the intention of forcing upon the General the solitude he felt when he was recovered on the border.
    • So basically, don't be a staff member of Kinderheim 511. Whether it's through losing your sanity or being another one of Johan's victims, it will not end well for you.
  • None of the surviving Kinderheim 511 alumni came out of the incident intact. In fact, most of them rallied around Johan as their leader, wholeheartedly believing in his nihilistic goals and helping him erase evidence of his existence throughout Europe. Chief among them was Roberto aka Adolf Reinhart. He became Johan's chief enforcer and right-hand man, playing any role that was required of him to eliminate anyone who was a threat to Johan's agenda, though he would on occasion bypass his superior's orders and attempt to kill his sister because he thought she posed a threat. He wanted to see 'the landscape of the end' that Johan strived to create, to be the last person standing at the end of the world. Even Wolfgang Grimmer, the most stable of the graduates, could no longer feel emotions, being unable to feel true empathy or even crack a smile until his final moments.
  • The suggestion of reviving the orphanage was raised by Baron Wolfgang von Strucker, secretly as an attempt to one-up the Red Skull who had seized his former position as leader of HYDRA in the Pantheon. He had painstakingly used the computers in the House of Knowledge to restore any documents that his operatives found in Project 'Netvor J', a time heist of sorts where his operatives, led by Crossbones, reclaimed and copied paperwork on the orphanage's administration by returning to the time periods before it was burned down. Most of these attempts did not bear fruit, but thanks to him, an estimated 45% of the lost documentation on the orphanage's administration was reclaimed and archived. Eventually, Strucker presented the fruits of his labour to the Red Skull, who was obligated to present these same results up the chain of command from Palpatine to Johan and eventually Melkor himself. More amused by how Strucker had gone to such lengths simply to humiliate Schmidt, whose progress had been stagnating as of late, as well the prospect of creating other humans like his Evil Genius, Melkor approved of the notion. Johan Liebert has yet to speak on the matter, though it's highly likely that he no longer cares about the orphanage anymore.
  • Strucker then formed the Militärausschuss 511full name  as the new leadership of the orphanage, for many of its former staff were unwilling or unable to return to their former duties with the exception of former Minister of Health Hartmann, who jumped at the chance to create more 'monsters'. The committee consists of Strucker (overall leadership and custody of the documents), Hartmann (general administration and oversight), Sundowner (funding and resources), William 'Deathshead' Strasse (genetic engineering and super soldiers), Taskmaster (recruitment and training), The Major (roll-out and combat testing), and Bask Om (brainwashing and indoctrination). Some have argued that the administration of the orphanage isn't German enough to warrant its legitimacy. Strucker just laughed.
  • This committee is run under the auspices of both the GUAE Corruption Agents and the GUAE Reeducation Facility, serving as a joint external facility for both bodies. Johan Liebert is a very rare case of "Homo monstrositis", i.e. a human who is so soulless and nihilistic, yet possesses no sadism or outward sense of joy in spreading pain and suffering (also known as Lieberty). This orphanage is different from places like the Red Room (which created Black Widow in how it isn't focused on combat-oriented training. Rather, it serves to turn out master manipulators, chessmasters and corruptors with qualities identical to Johan Liebert. The inclusion of Taskmaster in the committee is to ensure that the physical side of training is not ignored.
  • Despite being under the Corruption Agents and Re-education Facility authorities, the orphanage is considered politically neutral territory as agreed between the Grand United Alliances of Evil, Law and Destruction. Johan's qualities all have favourable similarities to their respective modus operandis, and hence some of their most intellectually-gifted students are sent here.
  • Life in the orphanage is far, far worse than in the original one.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Sep 21st 2019 at 9:54:15 PM

KAITO KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mrperson2006 A stranger on the internet from not important Relationship Status: Barbecuing
A stranger on the internet
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:05:46 PM

I’m BAAAAACK! Also they are off adoption. I know that I need some more enemies, I just don’t know who. [tup] count is at one

The Monkeys, Gods and Goddesses of Overkill

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  • Potential House: Combat Other
  • Rank: Ambiguous
  • Symbol: The Super Monkey’s emblem, or bananas
  • Alignment: Chaotic Good
  • Portfolio: Extreme Overkill, Everything's Better with Monkeys, Super Intelligence, coming in a variety of non realistic colors, games that don’t really have a plot, Skill Tree, Loads and Loads of Characters, Acid Attack, Wave Motion Gun, Physical Gods, Nuke 'em, Playing with Fire, only having two females (well, there are three, but the last one is in the patch notes), and so much more.
  • Domains: Monkeys, Destruction
  • Herald: Max, Sai, Captain Classie, Sam, C4 Charlie
  • Allies:
  • Enemies: Bounce Man, the House of Celebration, Frieza the House of Water & Moisture (Gwen)
  • Terrifies: The houses of Ice & Cold and Plants (Gwen), Emmet
  • Before the rise of man brought the great rivalry between Pirate and Ninja, there was another natural feud between two animal species: Monkeys... and B[al]loons. No one knows how or why this epic war began, but both sides fight endlessly with ever greater wartime developments vying for domination of the world. All of the preceding is included absolutely nowhere in the game's design, and is merely a flavorful fantasy explaining why players seem to care so much about using monkeys to pop balloons.
  • A normal day in the pantheon was interrupted when a portal appeared in the sky and a bunch of balloons came out of it. They did little more than annoying most of the people near the portal and then a bunch of monkeys popped out of the portal and started mercilessly killing them with a ton of weapons. It was quite a scene.
    • After the very few surviving balloons fled, one monkey in a tank said that he and his teammates have been fighting Bloons for years. Their brutality against the Bloons earned them a place in the Combat Other sub-house for Overkill on the spot.
  • Once the temple for them was made, the monkey engineers swiftly got to work, building a monkey paradise, with plenty of places to make new weapons if need be.
  • Because of his round, balloon-like shape, Bounce Man quickly got attacked by these balloon popping monkeys (The fact that they share a sub house doesn’t help). Bounce Man quickly went to the Main House to kick them out. The results of this remain hidden to the public, but most assume he failed to do so. They also hate the house of celebration, because of... do we need to spell it out for you? Either way, they got banned multiple times, but every time they manage to sneak back in.
  • Most monkeys have hung out their temple from time to time; some good, some bad, but they liked the company. This, of course, led Spike to their temple wanting to know why there were so many monkeys in one place, suspecting they were up to no good. Gwen told him not to worry, and said that he could call on their help anytime.
  • When they first arrived, a lot of people who don’t know them thought that they were infected by the simian flu because they they came just after the first ever successful raid of it by the Murkrow. When they realized that they meant trouble, most of the monkeys sacrificed themselves to form the avatar of the vengeful monkey, who quickly incinerated the thieves... and a small chunk of the Main House. When they turned back to normal and the simian flu was put back in its place, they got rewarded handsomely... with parts to reconstruct the part of the Main House they destroyed. They reconstructed it flawlessly, impressing the house of Pantheon/Craft, especially Emmet. Despite this, he is still terrified of them because of their violence.

  • They made a quick enemy with Freiza, due to his hatred for “filthy monkeys”. They decided to do an Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny Between him and Avatar of the Vengeful Monkey. Mettaton, overhearing this decided to film this and broadcast it throughout the pantheon. Interestingly, the monkeys got more popular as a result of this. Unfortunately, this caused the Pokémon hunter J to put a bounty on their head....

  • Exclusive to Quincy:

  • Exclusive to Gwen:
    • Unsurprisingly, her first stop was the sub-house of Fire & Heat, where she quickly made a name of herself due to her popularity in her home game. She is apparently making club in secret here: the secret house of the elementals, where one low ranking member of each sub-house come to her clubhouse to pull pranks on people.
    • Regarding other houses, her Kill It with Fire motto keeps her away from the Plants house and Ice & Cold sub-house, she still wants one to be in her club, but she does not know who. She is annoyed by the Water & Moisture sub-house because they can put out her fires, but you know what they say: “With enough fuel and air everything burns!’’.
    • One incident was when she snuck onboard Moltres and tried (badly) to control it. The end result? The entirety of the Plants house being set on fire. Despite this Moltres still likes her and takes her flying every once and a while, as long as it doesn’t cost the house of Plants.
    • Calling herhotwill get you melted into a gooey pulp. Also, she is not interested in Quincy, regardless of what others say.

  • Exclusive to Striker Jones:
    • Being a military general, he was more than impressed with the fact that the pantheon has a War house, trying to get into it at least as a temporary member, he got accepted, so he often visits.
    • He also travels to the Gaming house every once and awhile. The worms are his primary target when he’s there and he loves to talk to them to see what’s new in their tech.
    • He gets along with most people who shoot things like the Inklings, the aforementioned worms and more, he often tries to get them to fight the Bloons with little success.

  • Exclusive to Obyn:
    • He often stops by the house of Plants, being a spirit of the forest after all. He talks to them about improving the house to its fullest potential. The leaders declined, but he keeps trying.
    • He also goes to the house of Ambiguity, due to his mysterious nature, he struts about, and he talks to the deities to learn the latest gossip. The house of Beast is another common stop due to his Attack Animal, though he doesn’t stay long.

  • Exclusive to Churchill:
    • He, like Jones, likes going around to the house of War and training there, but he is more respected than Jones due to his Tank and sharper military intellect, as in, able to make better decisions. Despite this, they are still good friends.
    • Being a secret fan of anime, he has a wide amount of knowledge about it, and he often talks to people from anime to learn more.

  • Exclusive to Benjamin:
    • Him being a bank hacker he stays alone most of the time, only coming out to play or be the house of music’s DJ as his alter ego DJ Benjammin’.
    • A lot of people think that he is nothing but trouble, but he hacks for a good cause: getting extra money. This doesn’t stop someone like Roboking from getting worried about getting hacked. Ben simply told him to calm down and he couldn’t hack him even if he tried, and they are friends now... at least sort of.
    • Being named after slang for the $100 US dollar bill, Benjamin, he and the real Benjamin are good friends, but almost never see each other due to them doing their own thing.

  • Exclusive to Elizi:
    • Nothing much is known about her, other than she is a witch doctor who spends most of her days sacrificing various things. The house of Life and Death welcome her to stop by anytime, she never got the memo, but she still considers them her friends.
    • Oddly, she loves small cats and wants more in the pantheon. It’s kind of heartwarming in a way to see how she takes care of them, with the pay of bloon deaths, that is. Oddly despite his combat prowess, she doesn’t Incineroar, as she thinks that he is a shallow Attention Whore.

  • Exclusive to Pat Fusty:
    • Not Being called “The big monkey” for nothing, he oftentimes is fighting big opponents in the combat house using his punches, his slaps, and his hugs. Him and his opponents often tie, with better understanding of each other.
    • Due to sounding similar, him and Patrick Star are often swimming with him an grabbing a bite with him. He is also a good friend to Spongebob for this reason.

Edited by Mrperson2006 on Sep 21st 2019 at 10:58:52 AM

Fly you imbeciles!
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:06:31 PM

So I would like to take some time and make a proposal for a future profile. The profile in question is Friar Tuck, who would represent the trope Christianity Is Catholic.

Reason for it? Friar Tuck originated at a time before the Church of England divided from the Roman Catholic Church, and was specifically introduced to the mythos alongside Maid Marian to help counter old "pagan" based stories. He's also shown in multiple versions, notably the Disney version, to be tending to his church, pulling the bells while his mice companions play the organs.

Admittedly it's not the best written reason but it's still a reason nevertheless.

Time to explore the world!
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:10:47 PM

@Monkeys: Pothole the Adventure Time characters and all the rest.

[tup] for Tuck.

If you can't get around it, go through it fast. Personas and Nanos, make 'em here
fasoman1996 Angry pure boi from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Angry pure boi
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:11:14 PM

[up][up] Sounds good

So i was wondering if Have a Nice Death is taken? I think the Specimens from Spookys Jumpscare Mansion would be great for it, since every single monster has a special game over screen with the exception of Specimen 1 and 7. Thoughts?

Edited by fasoman1996 on Sep 21st 2019 at 12:11:29 PM

OW 2 hypemon
WeirdWarrior Press 5 For Senor from the Sunshine State Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Press 5 For Senor
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:12:50 PM

[up] I'm ok with it. [tup]

This time, I'm really gonna do it.
Crossover-Enthusiast Stars save us from the queen! from somewhere doing something Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Stars save us from the queen!
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:25:46 PM

[up][up] [tup] Funnily enough I just listened to The Living Tombstone song they made based off the game yesterday.

This design is still the shit
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:26:33 PM

I found this vid.

Where can this be added for Flowey?

https://youtu.be/-Rq6J5tK2qg

If you can't get around it, go through it fast. Personas and Nanos, make 'em here
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:33:01 PM

[up]Why should this be added for Flowey?

FTFY.

[down]Still don't know why that means the video merits being mentioned.

Edited by wootzits on Sep 21st 2019 at 4:46:52 PM

fasoman1996 Angry pure boi from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Angry pure boi
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:40:15 PM

[up] The "That's a wonderful idea" part is said by Flowey if you kill everyone in the starting zone.

Btw, before i start the profile do you think this is a good image even if it lacks a handful of specimens or should i add individual pics?

OW 2 hypemon
Crossover-Enthusiast Stars save us from the queen! from somewhere doing something Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Stars save us from the queen!
Sep 21st 2019 at 8:57:08 PM

[up][up] It's an interesting bit of trivia?

This design is still the shit
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
Sep 21st 2019 at 10:24:45 PM

...where there are sharknadoes, among other things, every week.

...where Maes Hughes sometimes pretends to be a YouTuber, despite internet not existing in his time.

...where two versions of The Mane Six exist at the same time.

This has been Trope Pantheons Discussion. See you next page!

Edited by nightelf37 on Sep 22nd 2019 at 1:30:27 AM

If you can't get around it, go through it fast. Personas and Nanos, make 'em here

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