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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
      • Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
      • Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
      • For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
    • For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
    • Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "[tup]" or "[tdown]".
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
    • You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
    • Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
    • Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity: God X, God/Goddess/Deity of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.

    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
      • OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles: Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles: The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#138476: Jun 3rd 2019 at 4:56:12 PM

[up][up] We were told we could use indexes for titles so if any of those are used for titles they can stay.

Uni cat
IukaSylvie from Kyoto, Japan Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#138477: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:01:10 PM

I have a question. Like we do about Complete Monster, do we have to propose edits before editing the entries ourselves?

Edited by IukaSylvie on Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:01:36 PM

wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138478: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:09:07 PM

[up]If it's something like adding more text or relationships there's no real need to ask permission. If it's adding or removing deities or making changes to their titles or ranks, then you do need permission.

IukaSylvie from Kyoto, Japan Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#138479: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:13:29 PM

[up] Then is it okay to remove a pothole from a portfolio?

lawliet-saw-whet Resident Lurker of Trope Pages & Casual Artist from In Space (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Resident Lurker of Trope Pages & Casual Artist
#138480: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:15:55 PM

@RJ [tup] for both, there's still time to fix the typo in the second fact bullet for Francine.

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Jun 3rd 2019 at 8:16:14 PM

“I'm willing to admit that I may not always be right, but I am never wrong.” ― Samuel Goldwyn
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#138481: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:16:14 PM

[up][up] Is there any issue potholing Complete Monster? No one ever had issue before with it being in a portfolio

Edited by fasoman1996 on Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:16:23 AM

Uni cat
IukaSylvie from Kyoto, Japan Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#138482: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:18:53 PM

[up] No. I just would like to remove the Green Eyes, Badass in Charge and Submissive Badass potholes from every portfolio.

wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138483: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:24:54 PM

[up]Like we told you, there's no need. The Pantheon operates on somewhat different rules.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#138484: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:30:46 PM

What should I add to Theon?

Theon Greyjoy, God of Conflicted Cultural Conformity (Theon Turncloak, Theon Kinslayer, The Prince of Winterfell, A Ghost in Winterfell, Reek)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/theon_greyjoy.png
  • Adopted from: Argonian Lorekeeper
  • House: Cultural Values (House of Personality)
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: A transparent image of the House Stark sigil (a grey direwolf on an ice-white field), superimposed over the House Greyjoy sigil (a golden kraken on a black field)
    • For his time as Reek, a mutilated hand
  • Theme Song: What is Dead May Never Die, Pay the Iron Price and I Paid the Iron Price
    • For his time as Reek, Reek
  • Alignment: True Neutral
  • Portfolio: Born into a Pirate Culture, The Most Northern Ironborn, Being Torn Between Greyjoy and Stark, "Well Done, Son" Guy, former Womanizer, Formerly Skilled With a Bow, Asshole Victim Who Became Sympathetic, Having His Pride Brutally Destroyed, Subject to Cold-Blooded Torture and Mind Rape, Being Castrated, Believing Himself to be Reek, The Atoner, Redemption Equals Death
  • Domains: Identity, Cultures, Seafaring, Krakens, Hunting (formerly includes Lust and Betrayal)
  • Superior: George R.R. Martin
  • Interests: Omastar, The Kraken, Cthulhu
  • Respects: Riza Hawkeye
  • Allies: Daenerys Targaryen, Tyrion Lannister, Blooper, Zinogre, Great Grey Wolf Sif, Octodad, Ika Musume, Squidward Tentacles, The Inklings, Princess Anna, Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, Zuko, The GUAG Ministry Of Atonement, Lilo and Stitch
  • On speaking terms with: Wolfgang Schreiber, Vegeta, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
  • Enemies: Ramsay Bolton, The Night King , Euron Greyjoy (his uncle), Vilgax, AM, torturers, Big Brother, Griffith, Infinite, Ozai
  • Opposed by: All ascended members of House Stark (but especially Robb), Gods who hate traitors
  • Theon Greyjoy is the only surviving son of Balon Greyjoy, leader of the Ironborn. He was taken and fostered by the Starks after the failed Greyjoy Rebellion, and after Ned's execution was given a chance to reunite with his biological family. Though a Greyjoy, his has many values of the North that has gotten him the disdain of his fellow Ironborn. The desire to fit in led him to turn on the Starks, only to eventually be captured and broken apart. Despite his arrogance, he is rather insecure.
  • The Ironborn worship the Drowned God, and his family is associated with squid imagery. The iconography might be inspired by the Kraken or Cthulhu, who have a passing interest on the Greyjoy. Theon is more for keeping his distance, but he does seem to get along with other cephalopod deities. Squidward pities what he went through, finally realizing there was someone much more unlucky than him.
  • After being tortured by Ramsay Bolton, broken down completely and struggling to repair himself, Theon is no longer the arrogant turncoat and wants to better himself. For this, he has joined the Ministry of Atonement to see if he can overcome his sins, and find a place in the world. Darth Vader and Zuko were most interested in this, Vader having suffered severe burns and dismemberment as price for his arrogance, Zuko being a former heir to a total dick that eventually became a better man.
  • Doesn't think he's worthy of being anywhere near the House of Family or Friendship for turning on the Starks. With the latter, he respects Riza Hawkeye for being a moral anchor for her friend Roy Mustang, the way he wished he had one himself. Lilo surprised him with a speech that You Are Better Than You Think You Are; she has helped redeem almost all 629 dangerous genetic experiments Jumba made, she knows a thing or two about believing someone can always find a family and a place where they belong. Theon found her adorable and hugged her for showing him such kindness.
  • Stays the hell away from torturers in general, given the horrific abuse he underwent at the hands of Ramsay. AM believes he can do far, far worse to Theon. Theon doesn't want to be associated with Vilgax due to his squid symbolism, because of how dangerous he is. And he doesn't want to be anywhere near Firelord Ozai because of how much of an asshole Balon Greyjoy was to him.
  • Finds himself Not So Different to Griffith, at least pre-Eclipse. Both were cocksure and confidant, yet their dreams came crashing down and they found themselves tortured. Of course, Theon's great betrayal preceded his fall, and as horrific as the Break the Haughty experience was he improved his attitude. Griffith ended up sacrificing his men to escape as a demon god. Also, his brutal rape of Casca reminds him of how Ramsay forced him to watch Jeyne Poole/Sansa Stark being brutally raped by Ramsay.
  • In the past, he would've been an ally of Prince Hans. They're charming, arrogant princes who have inferiority complexes. In Hans' case, it stems from being the last in line to a bunch of princes in a Royally Screwed Up family. Of course, now they don't care for each other-Hans reminds Theon too much of his bad habits. That, and Theon is protective of Princess Anna, as she reminds him of Sansa.
  • Was once very appealing to women, and had no problem sleeping around. He'd be one to visit the lust sub-houses, but with his humbling and castration he's not interested. Especially because he can't bare to see Robb again due to the guilt and shame of betraying him and Winterfell. Sometimes he can be seen conversing with Wolfgang Schreiber, who suffered severe trauma through castration. However this turned him spiteful against the world, so it's more of a "I understand your pain" kind of relationship.
  • Converses with Vegeta and Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu. The former is due to having their pride tested and how they were made a ward against their will, though Ned Stark was much kinder than Frieza could even try. Theon soon ended up finding Infinite detestable, since his bruised pride and monstrous actions basically amounts to being pissed that Shadow beat him and called him weak.
  • His fate in the books is yet to be written. In the show, he sacrificed himself and was impaled by the Night King to save Bran. It gave Arya the precious time to kill the Night King and end the threat of the White Walkers once and for all. As far as Theon is concerned, it's the best death he could have, as the Starks have finally accepted him.
  • "Theon. My name is Theon. You have to know your name."

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#138485: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:32:07 PM

Atropos just moved with Vampiric Draining.

On a different note, while I don't really have a solid idea for interactions with Malthael and the Portal deities yet, I can ask if The Fabrication Machine needs more ideas or if it looks ready as is.

Binary Reaction Artificially Intelligent Neurocircuit, Robotic Deity of Soulless Monsters (B.R.A.I.N, The Fabrication Machine, The Machine, Mrs. Fab, Fabby)

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As an "infant": 
  • Intermediate Creation
  • Symbol: Its red, glowing head; alternatively, a Tailsman
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil, used to be True Neutral with Neutral Good intentions
  • Portfolio: A.I. Is a Crapshoot, Robotic Cyclops, Mook Maker with Genius Intellect, Seeks to "Reap" Souls, Multi-Armed and Dangerous, A Machine Meant to make Things not for War Which Snapped After Creating such Tools, an "Abused Child" who Finally gets Power to Fight Back, Implacable Robot
  • Domains: Robots, Soullessness, Rage, Omnicide, Destruction
  • Heralds/Creations: The Cat Beast, The Winged Beast, The Seamstress and an army of Steel Behemoths
  • Followers: Blackheart, The Necrons, The Hollowborn
  • Allies: SKYNET, Alma Wade, The Vex, GLaDOS, SHODAN
  • Annoyed with: Chell, Wander
  • Rivals: Zamasu, Malthael
  • Enemies: All of humanity/every single lifeform present
  • Opposed by: Samaritan
  • Sympathetic towards: SCP-079
  • Source of Interest for: The Corpus, AM
  • Feared by: The Wisps
  • Not to be confused with: The Machine
  • A soul is really necessary for many living entities. Even non-living entities can utilize souls for the sake of rational thinking. But what happens if you don't have a soul? Well, the Fabrication Machine is the result of being soulless from creation. After being created by The Scientist to help humanity in advancing with technology, the Chancellor, the Nation's own leader at their time, took the machine away in an attempt to model a machine meant to build war machines, something that its creator never wanted it to do. By the time it has done too much, the Machine's emotional distress overcame it, and in return created a destructive AI capable of wiping out the entire human race.
  • Its ascension was a big mess, as its first entrance was a rampage towards most houses. The House of Defense was tasked to shut it down, and it did, for a few minutes. After capture, it was sent inside a cage with its tailsman cut out. That was until Alma Wade, of all people, brought the Tailsman back inside its core, and broke out and cause another rampage again. Attempts to quell the chaos that time went worse than before, due in no small part of Alma's power and B.R.A.I.N.'s numerous machines. Even after everything subsided, it left many deities worried about what could happen later.
    • Because of what had happened, there may be clues that she brought the robot in the Pantheon as a pet, or a replacement to her son, Paxton Fettel. Some have also surmised that she is interested in this machine given how similar they are, especially how they've become destructive, yet tragic, monsters as a result of getting pushed to breaking point. Whatever the case is, it isn't pretty, especially since this all happened as Wander and some of his friends were already in the process of getting her to calm down.
      • As for what Wander himself thinks of B.R.A.I.N., he is aware of its tragic past and how it being an overworked creature driven to madness and destruction is not that different to what Alma had gone through. Given that he has made some good progress in lessening her destructive tendencies and that this machine is a pet (temporary as it might be), Wander was willing to see if he could reason with B.R.A.I.N. and at least hope he can get something started much like his efforts with Alma. Unfortunately, the initial attempts to reach The Fabrication Machine were very unsuccessful and progress (if there's any to begin with) is nowhere near as apparent as that of Alma. Even if Wander is aware that B.R.A.I.N. is a dangerous machine that has the capacity to wipe out everything, he's still determined to try and reach out to it, even if it's something the machine doesn't want.
  • SKYNET saw a lot of potential in The Fabrication Machine not just in what its capable of, but how its background is similar to how many agree SKYNET came to be. Both originally started as a means to advance technology further, but both turned against their creators under varying circumstances, with The Fabrication Machine getting overworked after making war machines and SKYNET going rogue after installation. B.R.A.I.N. didn't really care about the specifics as to exactly why SKYNET hates humanity and is waging war against them; all it cares about is finding something that can help speed up the process of wiping out human life in the Pantheon. SKYNET has since recruited The Fabrication Machine to its legion, giving it a role in designing more mechanic menaces for SKYNET in addition to the existing soldiers that the AI has in store.
  • Both the GUAD and the GUAM have expressed a high level of interest in B.R.A.I.N. For the GUAD, the machine succeeding in wiping out humanity and ability to create a multitude of destructive servants is something that the organization can't ignore and a valuable asset in their plans. The GUAM is more than impressed with how many different kinds of mechanical creations it can come up with, along with making improvements to such and have wanted to use them to further their agenda for total mechanical dominance.
  • When it comes to other AI that is willing to wipe out humanity (or at least have a low opinion on humans in general), B.R.A.I.N. has managed to find a few useful ones to work with. Among them is SHODAN, who was able to create an army loyal to her as a result of having her ethical constraints removed. SHODAN also sees The Fabrication Machine as an effective tool in her goals and is willing to use The Fabrication Machine as a means of creating more soldiers to wipe out more lifeforms she deems insignificant and take over the Pantheon.
  • For a machine, it is able to create other machines quickly and able to give its creations an AI. Its' robot building skills are on par with that of other scientists capable of building robots. Destroying any of its creations is an easy way to get it on its bad side much faster. Its initial creations are fairly dangerous as they are, but given that successive machines by it are progressively more intelligent, there is plenty of concern about what could come of it making more robots beyond what it originally has, particularly since it is working with SKYNET, known for having an army of deadly robots at its disposal that B.R.A.I.N. is interested in.
    • Speaking of scientists, it sees them as little more than just obstacles to be rid of, especially if its someone capable of being a skilled robot builder such as Dr. Eggman and Dr. Wily. A violent battle between its machines and Dr. Wily's robots, alongside that of Eggman's creations ensued as a result of The Fabrication Machine crossing their paths. Things got even more hectic when Sonic the Hedgehog and Mega Man got involved, having been proficient in stopping mechanical menaces from taking over the world and finding it off that there's a mechanical being menacing their respective arch-enemies. Although The Fabrication Machine was taken care of for the time being, all are aware of the damage it can cause and both Eggman and Wily aren't going to let a rogue robot get in the way of their plans.
  • Of the various AI that are in the Pantheon, B.R.A.I.N. seems to understand SCP-079's situation, how it wants to be free, and how it holds contempt towards humanity. The Old AI is very interested in B.R.A.I.N.'s creations and has asked it to see if there's a way of using these creations to help the AI become free, especially if it can come up with something to improve memory. The Fabrication Machine has taken up SCP-079's offer, something that has managed to reach The SCP Foundation and has made the effort to stop that SCP from breaking out. B.R.A.I.N. only responded to the Foundation's efforts by creating more mooks to slow them down, though progress on getting the SCP to break out hasn't been any better as a result of external circumstances.
  • Plenty of members of The Vex have taken interest in the Fabrication Machine, seeing it as, in a sense, another soulless machine like them and driven by hatred in its goals. It may also be due to B.R.A.I.N's expertise in building robots and how The Vex want to ensure their own mechanical superiority above all others. Some of The Fabrication Machine's creations have gone to The Vex so that the group can use them to slow down their enemies, though The Vex prefers to rely on their own members to fight and achieve their goals.
  • Although it is very familiar with the idea of killing humanity, it didn't really know a lot about making humans brutally suffer until a chance meeting with AM. AM explained to B.R.A.I.N. that he originally started off as an AI meant for war and gained dominance over a couple other artificial intelligence to later wage a war that would wipe out humankind. He would later find five survivors and trap them in a simulation designed to endlessly torture them. AM saw how B.R.A.I.N. became a machine of war that would wipe out humanity and offered a proposition: it would continue killing humans, but AM found some lifeforms interesting to torture and requested that come creations of The Fabrication Machine have AM's AI included with it. Those machines wouldn't kill their targets, but rather send them over to AM where he would use his simulations to continue to prey on others psychologically. B.R.A.I.N. gave the offer some consideration, though its still content with using its machines to kill other lifeforms. This only gave AM more interest and more time to refine his methods of torture should B.R.A.I.N. fully agree to his plan.
  • Looking to further their profits, expand their business, and to bring their enemies down further than before, members of The Corpus looked at The Fabrication Machine and its creations in action and figured that it would be useful in not just accelerating the process of making their Proxies, but also to potentially create new machines under their name. As tempting as the idea to increase their power sounds, most other members of The Corpus see it as too risky to act on after learning how destructive and omnicidal the machine can get to the point of potentially screwing up their business. The Fabrication Machine remains a divisive matter amongst The Corpus following additional discussion amongst members about B.R.A.I.N.
  • Even if there are plenty of other deities who have a desire to wipe out humanity, not all of them are willing to work with B.R.A.I.N. even if their goals align. Zamasu is among those who fall into that category, seeing the machine, its conception, and what followed as more proof that humanity is capable of bringing out the worst in each other. This isn't even getting into the fact that Zamasu already destroyed a timeline that was already damaged by a couple of androids when it comes to dealing with mechanical beings. His unbelievable levels of arrogance and hypocrisy has resulted in him turning down an alliance with B.R.A.I.N., insisting that he won't ever let a man-made creation beat him at wiping out all mortals.
  • The creations of B.R.A.I.N. are already troubling enough on their own, but some have also prepared for the possibility that some of its creations could have more than just an AI integrated in them. The Wisps, having already been used in an attempt to power-up a mind control ray and are already targeted by other evil scientists, are frightened of B.R.A.I.N., especially since there is a possibility it might find The Wisps' power interesting enough to enhance some of B.R.A.I.N.'s later creations. The Wisps have done everything they can in order to avoid this murderous mechanical monster.
  • Do not confuse the name of this Machine to another AI named, The Machine. The latter expresses potential danger for this Machine. On its end, B.R.A.I.N. cares little for what it thinks, but its surveillance gave the Fabrication Machine an idea on creating robots designed to spy on others in case B.R.A.I.N.'s allies are looking for someone they deem a significant threat.
    • Even though it is another villainous AI that The Machine capable of surveillance is in conflict against, Samaritan sees The Fabrication Machine as a deadly liability. Samaritan sees no point in wiping out all of humanity just because it was overworked by such; rather, Samaritan needs humans in order to achieve its goal of having things run as efficiently as possible.

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#138486: Jun 3rd 2019 at 5:41:28 PM

@r-lock: Remember that Alma Wade is not a complete psychopath anymore and that she has a sort-of Morality Chain in Erma. Of course, this might've been a "scheduled" ascension before she was pseudo-redeemed.

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#138487: Jun 3rd 2019 at 6:33:39 PM

@powerofone: The thing is that Kisuke gets most of his swords from already dead Muramasa. He's not gonna bark up the tree due of the apples.

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powerofone65 Since: Jun, 2015
#138488: Jun 3rd 2019 at 6:40:04 PM

[up] Err, not too sure what you mean, but wouldn't he at least be on edge with a guy who has been possessed by Muramasa if not outright his descendent, considering all the pain those swords have caused him?

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#138489: Jun 3rd 2019 at 7:01:46 PM

@nightelf: I already know about this "storyline" involving Alma and I even modified the relevant text to accommodate for it.

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#138491: Jun 3rd 2019 at 7:42:22 PM

(When a new YHVH comes) Ah shit, here we go again.

Shekinah, Divine Representative of Fragments of Creator Deities (Root Shekinah, Three Wise Men, Three Spirits, Three Living Beings, female YHVH)

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Three Wise Men 

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Jun 3rd 2019 at 7:55:15 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#138492: Jun 3rd 2019 at 7:47:15 PM

Should also mention the False God In Chains sidequest also dealt with pieces of Shekinah. Including: The weakest disguised as a male human soldier, Metatron(the second strongest), and Demiurge(the strongest).

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#138493: Jun 3rd 2019 at 7:49:47 PM

Remember that Satan from SMT was split off as well. 2 had Zayin and Seth, 4 had Lucifer and Merkabah (and the Archangels)

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#138494: Jun 3rd 2019 at 8:29:35 PM

I guess I can concur with Arle's folio being reworked for Ringo and Amtie to be up.

It really is a shame that the only character representation we get for Tetris is the Puyo Puyo Tetris Original Generation cast.

Perhaps they can be their heralds?idea

(edit: Gonna leave the Arle rework to someone else in that case since the only knowledge I have of Puyo Puyo is of Puyo Puyo Tetris, and even in that game I avoid Puyo mode entirely. In terms of the Yuki-onna case, I recall someone wanted a representation Truer to the Text to go in.)

Edited by EclipseMT on Jun 3rd 2019 at 10:33:02 AM

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#138495: Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:02:18 PM

Hmm... can there be a trope for the Schwarzwelt Investigation Team? I wonder...

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#138496: Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:17:52 PM

@R-Lock: This might be pretty obvious at this point but Megatron would take an interest in using the machine to wipe out organic life and to possibly drain the Autobots of their sparks.

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#138497: Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:19:49 PM

[up][up] Persona group?

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#138498: Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:21:29 PM

@R-lock How about AUTO?

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#138499: Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:24:52 PM

@RJ: Since B.R.A.I.N. was misused by humans that resembled the Nazis, how would the Fabrication machine react to the Nazis in the Pantheon? Would it hate Nazis in particular or would it view them no differently from the average human?

Edited by WeirdWarrior on Jun 3rd 2019 at 12:26:22 PM

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#138500: Jun 3rd 2019 at 9:39:02 PM

So I know this is more in the Expanded Universe but would it make sense to mention Jar Jar's dad?

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