Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

TheWikiaEditor Since: Sep, 2018

#137376: May 19th 2019 at 4:46:44 AM

Siegfried 1337 is already going to ascend Seth MacFarlane under that trope.

@RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 for Leroy.

@Weird Warrior for Abridged Kirito and Asuna.

I... uh... Hey! Look over there! [runs away]

Looks fine to me, for Elspeth.

Edited by TheWikiaEditor on May 19th 2019 at 5:33:10 AM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!

#137377: May 19th 2019 at 4:48:04 AM

They are Siegfried 1337.

Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...

The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread

#137378: May 19th 2019 at 5:18:12 AM

Okay. If abridged versions of characters can ascend, then there's reason enough to be able to ascend this character, too, right?

No-

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Elspeth Annarose Cullen, Goddess of Rationalist Fiction (Elsie, Genealoger Extraordinaire, Princess Elspeth of the Golden Coven/Empire, Elspeth the Imperial Soothsayer)

Potential House: Storytelling
s:

Intermediate Goddess
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Dhampyr, Was Reneesme In Canon, Bad Liar (sort of), Can Broadcast Her Thoughts And Memories To Others, Heart Is an Awesome Power, Younger Than They Look, Omniglot, Time Abyss (By Way Of Proxy Memory Transfer From Aro), Everythings Better With Princesses
Domain(s): Half-Vampires, Memory, Truth, Rationality
Herald: Imperial Alpha Jacob Black (her imprinter)
High Priest: Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres
Allies: Mina Tepes, Akira Kaburagi, and Yuki Saegusa, Isabella, Chuck Bartowski
Rivals:
Enemies: Indiscriminate vampire hunters and evil vampires
Finding a candidate for Rational Fic was a daunting task, mainly because the best candidates were from fanfics, and several of them already have canon counterparts in the Pantheon (had in one case nearly nobody remembers). And then someone in the Court of the Gods found an ideal pick. Amidst all the protests upon hearing where she came from, especially by the PPC, these were quelled after inspecting her character, and seeing that she at least deserved a chance.
It was Dream who went to visit the world Elspeth came from, and was mildly interested with what her mother has done and is planning to do with it. Eventually, he contacted Elspeth in a dream and explained everything about the Trope Pantheons, how things there don't fully operate on rational thought, that the world operates in a narrative sense, that significant change won't come easy, and other caveats that ensure that she won't actually need to be away from the Golden Empire for too long; in fact, having a capital in the Pantheon can be a sound idea. Oh, and that she was chosen to represent the trope Rational Fic.
- The reason why she was picked rather than her mother, she was given two reasons why. 1) Being a fanfic version of a canon character was a good enough reason to bar her from entry. 2) The canon character in question… wasn't well liked at all (even though nobody knows why anymore) and has been removed. Elspeth then asked what this canon version of her mother was like. Dream showed her (and therefore knowledge of the Disgraces)… and she was quick to agree that they had a point.
- Being a fanfic character, upon entry to the Pantheon, Elspeth was screened by the Protectors of the Plot Continuum and put under The Universal Mary Sue Litmus Test before she could enter the Pantheon proper. She barely passed the test and earned a spot here.
Elspeth's power is the ability to make herself understood, and she can do that by touching someone and showing them what she means or how she feels, or convey the objective truth and be believed. She can also use this indirectly to learn things about other people, depending on what explanations they understand, what analogies make sense to them, and so on.
- She's also developed it to the point where she can send her memories to others (and translate them if need be) pass her thoughts to others from range. She can even send enough memories to overwhelm someone (though given Death Is Cheap, it's ultimately not advantageous). Or transmit the feeling of pain (specifically, the pain from turning into a vampire in her world).
  - She's careful not to send too much memories, for it can effectively erase a human-level mind of everything that makes them who they are. Thankfully, this is reversible in the Pantheon, though harder to do than "plain" death.
- As a consequence of her powers, it's obvious if she's telling an outright lie, unless she never told the truth to the person she's talking to.
Has two other personality aspects that she discusses with at times and help process things.
- Magic, who "itches" whenever Elspeth lies (she only twinges at out-of-context misleading truths), even if she's mentally compromised (thus eroding its effect on her), and values being truthful above all else. It also helps her figure out the objective truth.
- Memory, who helps sift through Elspeth's massive archive of memories that she's picked up from when Addy (with Aro's memories^{how much?}Besides his own memories, he also has those of every person he's ever touched, from birth to the last moment he's come in contact with them. This counts everyone in his coven both current and former, the hundreds of thousands of humans he's eaten over two millennia, and all the vampire visitors/to-be-executed "criminals".and Elspeth's powers (for that moment)) passed them to her.
  - As such, she has an immense wealth of knowledge, from firsthand perspectives of the fall of Rome, authentic Sanskrit accents, books memorized, instruments played, doctorates, and who knows how many others.
Memories might've been removed, but the feelings behind them can still linger, which is why on her first few days, Elspeth received unexplained stigma from some deities in the Pantheon. Only some, because others have ascended long after the "removal" and so do not harbor those feelings. Her truthfulness has also helped against the stigma, so that eventually faded.
- If anything, Elspeth has more reason to hate the original Twilight, especially given its decidedly-not-rational thinking her mother does there, the fact that Jacob somehow became love rivals with her father, every unbelievably (to Elspeth) stupid decision her mother's made there, etc. Let's just say that when the Trollkaiger dropped off the book in her temple one day, the entire House felt her outburst of frustration and grief after the first few chapters.
- As someone who's partially a joke on the books by virtue of her name, Twilight Sparkle understands the feeling. She also appreciates Elspeth's rational way of thinking, even if Twilight tends to veer off into paranoia at times.
As someone who possesses an obscene amount of information, she's made connections with Isabella and Chuck. While she sort of understands the former's situation (having been specifically made to be a weapons database, only learning how to be human thanks to Will), she's confused with how the latter (with the INTERSECT in his head and the inconsistencies of its origin) hasn't lost his sense of self. To be fair, Chuck "merely" possess intel and skillsets, not entire lifetimes worth of memories like Elspeth has.
Given Elspeth's mother's ultimate goal, Mina Tepes appreciates her for it and laments that she could've thought about that before making her Vampire Bund and race public; the pressure of her "suitors" likely influenced her thought process. Mina also wished she was that ambitious, though the sunlight weakness (and not simply sparkling) makes that impractical, even though she does have sunblock supplied.
- The fact that the Vampire Bund has werewolf servants makes Elspeth feel a bit awkward; the Volturi in her world had sort of done the same, but with Mind Rape (by way of someone who can strengthen and weaken relationships, and thus their capacity to care).
  - Hearing of the latter worried the Wild Card Persona-users, given that much of their potential power hinges on the bonds they make.
- Elspeth and the Vampire Bund trio also happen to share another thing in common; a certain literary series influenced their ascension to the Pantheon, the three due to the most popular option being inadvisable, and the half-vampire from a tangential source of origin.
- Given their shared goals, Elspeth has been rendered an enemy to indiscriminate vampire hunters and the evil vampires of the Pantheon.
For those who can literally fall apart yet whose body parts are autonomous, Elspeth can be a big help thanks to her memory powers.
- Speaking of disassembly, given the Volturi subjected her father to this, Elspeth is not fond of them.
Has noticed how Violetta's Smoke Knight skills bear some similarities to Allirea's powers in that she and her actions can escape notice in defiance of logic. However, there are some clear differences. 1) The Smoke Knight can only make her presence and actions unnoticeable, not her existence. 2) Even when noticed, she can still somehow make certain actions of hers ignorable (like swapping a hostage for a dummy while the hostage-taker was talking to her). 3) This hiding ability isn't infallible. 4) She's apparently not even that good; better Smoke Knights are able to leaf through a book guarded by two people (one a Super-Soldier with enhanced senses and the other a battle-hardened warrior) without them noticing until after they decided to make themselves known.

Edited by nightelf37 on May 19th 2019 at 8:18:40 PM

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#137379: May 19th 2019 at 5:36:34 AM

@Whirl, TPPR: Okay, not going to lie. Last night was a bit rude on both parts. Whirl, the way that "checking the related page" was written seemed almost mocking. I always check the related page for trope occupation, though admittedly Sandboxes would be a good thing to take into account next time. As for TPPR, it would have been nice to have mentioned you having that trope in the first place instead of making us debate day in and out over it.

Now yes, Ame and Yuki will come up... in their own separate profile. For now, they're Heralds. End to that part of the Discussion.

Thank you for my TED talk, and have a marvelous day!

Time to explore the world!

Siegfried1337 Unofficial co-Wiki Curator for Magnificent Bastard from the Ashes Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.

Unofficial co-Wiki Curator for Magnificent Bastard

#137380: May 19th 2019 at 5:40:50 AM

@The Wikia Editor: (Facepalms) Look, I got message from someone saying that was a bad idea, and that the entire Family Guy cast should ascend under Cutaway Gag. Ya got it?

Sure, why not?

Edited by Siegfried1337 on May 19th 2019 at 5:50:37 AM

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TheWikiaEditor Since: Sep, 2018

#137381: May 19th 2019 at 5:46:05 AM

Yep, I got it, sounds fine to me. Also, I could work on the profiles of the Queen's Blade characters in order to expand them and get them back into the pantheon.

Edited by TheWikiaEditor on May 19th 2019 at 5:49:44 AM

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#137382: May 19th 2019 at 5:50:42 AM

TPPR might of not saw it since the forum can go very fast sometimes. Also, the Related comment wasnt mockery.

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#137383: May 19th 2019 at 5:52:08 AM

It kind of felt like that. But if it wasn't intentional then I'll let that pass.

Now, while I'm more of a fan of Human Mom Non Human Dad, Interspecies Romance is still open, correct?

Edited by Bazzardreturns on May 19th 2019 at 6:00:22 AM

Time to explore the world!

Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

No. 1 Entourage Fanboy

#137384: May 19th 2019 at 6:05:04 AM

Yeah, Alana and Marko has Interspecies Romance. Whirl, TPPR, remember to skim through Houses every once in a while. Don't give me the "I don't have time" excuse.

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!

Shocking Gun!

#137385: May 19th 2019 at 6:08:15 AM

Just for reference, the suggestion I had for Human Mom Non Human Dad was Master Therion (child of sort to the human mage Nero and Yog-Sothoth itself). Now I am willing to discuss about these things (especially since I am behind in trying to research Demonbane), but you know.

On sort of unrelated note, who was the one doing Shadow Heart profiles?

Mei-Fang, Goddess of Anime Chinese Girls (Mei-Mei, China Lady)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rsz_1842431_mei_fang11.png

Lesser Goddess
Symbol: A flaming fist
Them Music: Rising with Chivalry
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Anime Chinese Girl, Playing with Fire, Robot Girl, Boobs Of Steel, Thong of Shielding, Odango Hair, Humanoid Robot Who Acts Robotic, Downloaded with 4000 Years of Chinese Recipes And Various Martial Arts
Domains: China, Combat, People
Superior/Creator: Mei-Ling Hua
Allies: Catherine Kyoubashi, Kira Daidouji, Noel Vermillion, KOS-MOS, Labrys, Hatsune Miku, Hsien-Ko, Cammy White, Yellow Heart, Alisa Bosconovitch, Tifa Lockhart, Chun-Li, Aigis, 765 Pro, Ike, Ling Xiaoyu, Litchi Faye-Ling, Leifang, Mulan, Michelle Chang, Mei-Ling Zhou, May Chang
High Priestess: Lee-Fi
Mei-Fang is a highly-advanced humanoid robot created by one Mei-Ling Hua. Her entire body is made out ether-based technology and powered by Elemental core. Not very expressive, even if she was programmed with a personality.
Mei-Fang has made contract with Lang-gong, an ancient Chinese wolf who turned into a fire Elemental, which allows her to conjure fire in variety of ways. She also has boosters in her limbs which boost the power of her physical attacks.
At Mei-Fang's request, Mei-Ling has been brought into the Pantheon. She is not a goddess per say, but since Mei-Fang generally follows Mei-Ling's orders, it would be hard to keep her around without her creator.
Mei-Fang gets along well with KOS-MOS, Aigis, Labrys and Alisa Bosconovitch due to all of them being Robot Girls.
Mei-Fang's voice also caused her to become friends with 765 Pro and Ike as Mei-Fang sounds like 765 Pro's manager and the princess who had a crush on Ike.
For some reason, Mei-Fang has sometimes been seen wearing the colors of Noel Vermillion, Litchi Faye-Ling, Hatsune Miku and Hsien-Ko. Noel got very jealous when she saw Mei-Fang's chest combined with her colors.
Ever since Mei-Fang went to the house of costumes, She's been wary around Evangeline A.K McDowell as Evangeline is interested in the possible opportunity of getting a second Robot Girl maid. Mei-Fang isn't as interested and has stated that she has no interest in serving someone other than her creator.
Mei-Fang once got confused when another deity said Meiling's name and Mei-Fang became temporarily happy because she thought that her creator with the same name had ascended and then she became disappointed when she learned that Mei-Ling hadn't ascended.
- The fact that Meiling is rather common name has brought up more confusion, though Mei-Ling is amused by the fact that there is another scientist in the Pantheon with similar first name.
Even though Mei-Ling has to resort to military funding to finish Mei-Fang, Mei-Ling is keeping her far away from any military activity. For example, she is making sure that she doesn't get involve with the Enclave's war.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#137386: May 19th 2019 at 6:09:17 AM

I always skim the houses for tropes. And when did i give a "I have no time excuses".

Edited by WhirlRX on May 19th 2019 at 9:10:13 AM

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#137387: May 19th 2019 at 6:32:11 AM

If it's of any help, Mei could be enemies with Juri due to her connection with Chun-Li. As well, she'd be rivals with Kitana and Jade while being enemies with Mileena.

Time to explore the world!

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...

The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread

#137388: May 19th 2019 at 8:18:10 AM

As far as I can tell, Macekre and Bowdlerise aren't taken. Whirl suggested Carl Macek instead, and they also suggested someone from Robotech, which is based on Macross and two other un-related animés.

If any of you'd like to work on those, feel free.

In other news, I originally planned for Merging the Branches for the Persona party members, but a third of them don't even show up in the sequel.

So I'm thinking of giving them Bad Export for You instead. Why? Because the American localization of what would be known as "Revelations: Persona" went down in gaming history as a textbook case of how not to localize a title. The characters were all (save Yuki(no)) localized into Americans (and a lot of Race Lifts), all the spells and demons we're given generic RPG-sounding names, encounters were made easier and toned down (but the rewards weren't increased to compensate), removal of the Snow Queen Quest, and most of the translation didn't even make sense.

May I proceed?

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database

TheWikiaEditor Since: Sep, 2018

#137389: May 19th 2019 at 8:32:20 AM

for Bad Export for You for the Persona 1 cast.

First draft of Olga, any ideas?

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Olga, Goddess of Enforcers Who Outlive Their Leader (Olga of the Seven Deities)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/s_Wrath_Olga_9679.png

Potential House: Villainous Roles (House of Villains)
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Intermediate Goddess (potentially capable of becoming a Greater Goddess)
Symbol: Her ship, the Septentrion Alioth
Theme Song: I Don't Need a God Who Only Takes Away
Alignment: Lawful Evil
Portfolio: Outlived Deus, and tried to avenge him, An Ice Person, Dark Action Girl, Dark Chick, Evil Brit, Warmongering general, who prefers aggressive tactics, More Deadly Than the Male, Ignored Enamored Underling, Undying Loyalty, The Unfought
Domains: War, Lust
Allies: Deus, Wy zen, Augus, Kal row, Sergei, Colonel Mael Radec, Esdeath, Selvaria Bles
Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Yasha
Enemies: Asu ra, Mithra, Chakravartin, Twilight Sparkle
Olga was originally one of the Eight Guardian Generals in service to the Emperor of Shinkoku to protect the Realm of Shinkoku and Gaea from those who wished to destroy it. Although her mantra affinity is Lust, she only has eyes for Deus. However, Olga and six of the other generals participated in General Deus' coup d'etat, which culminated in the assassination of the Emperor and the banishment and death of General Asura, who was blamed as the cause. Afterwards, the Eight Guardian Generals were disbanded and transformed into the Seven Deities. 12,500 years later, Olga launched an attack against a village that Asura had happened to come acros. However, the subsequent bombardment of the village only resulted in angering Asura, who proceeded to singlehandedly destroy Olga's fleet. After the death of Deus, Olga tried to kill Mithra out of revenge, but she was killed instead by the Golden Spider, which turned out to be Chakravartin, the true God of the Mantra. Olga was later reincarnated in the modern world as Deus' secretary, who was telling him of a meeting they were going to be late to attend, as he insisted on helping an old man cross the road. She was then chastised for insisting otherwise.
Olga originally ascended into the pantheon as part of Deus' plan to reunite the Seven Deities, she was made The Goddess Who Never Retreats. However, once further scrutiny had been given for each and every one of them, Olga was removed along with Wyzen, Kalrow and Sergei. Unperturbed by this setback, Deus attempted to ascend the remaining Seven Deities once again. After the successful ascensions of Wyzen, Kalrow and Sergei, Deus managed to once again ascend Olga into the pantheon, this time as the Goddess of Enforcers Who Outlive Their Leader.
As soon as she was re-ascended, Olga made straight for the House of Faith with the intent of killing Mithra as revenge against Asura and Yasha for killing Deus. Fortunately for Mithra, she was with Twilight Sparkle at the time, and the pony was able to hold her off long enough for Asura and Yasha to arrive. Needless to say, Twilight has gone on Olga's hit list. Olga was eventually banned from the House of Faith due to her constant attempts on Mithra's life. For the next few months, Olga could generally be found in her temple, seething at this apparent "injustice".
Olga's love for Deus has confused many gods in the Pantheon due to her Mantra affinity being Lust. Olga doesn't particularly care about the opinions of the House of Love and is particularly disdainful of the House of Lustful Behavior, as she considers her love for Deus to be much more than simple lust.
Out of the Seven Deities, she hates Chakravartin the most, as he is not only responsible for releasing Asura from Naraka both times, but was also the one who ultimatly killed her and prevented her from exacting her revenge against Asura and Yasha. Her hatred is so strong that she's willing to cooperate with Yasha whenver the Seven Deities end up fighting against Chakravartin.
Olga has struck up something of a friendship with Colonel Mael Radec, as the two are both highly devoted to their respective leaders. However, Radec tends to be critical of the fact that Olga didn't fight against Asura and Yasha directly.
Olga has also formed an alliance with Esdeath and Selvaria Bles, who are similarly Dark Action Girls who serve as The Dragons to their respective forces and are also infatuated with someone in particular. She particularly gets along with Selvaria, whose dedication to serving under Prince Maximillian, to the point she was even willing to use her power that causes her suffering if it meant pleasing him and bringing victory, strongly mirrors that of Olga towards Deus. However, Olga feels a lot more uneasy around Esdeath. Not only because of her insane and sadistic personality, but also because the object of her infatuation is Tatsumi, who is a member of a group of assassins who actively oppose the Empire which Esdeath serves.

EDIT: Updated the profile.

Edited by TheWikiaEditor on May 19th 2019 at 11:25:53 AM

CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon

#137390: May 19th 2019 at 9:14:08 AM

@ Olga: Could there be something for Esdeath and Selvaria Bles? Given they're also Dark Action Girls also serving as The Dragons to their respective forces who are infatuated with someone in particular. In Esdeath's case, she's after Tatsumi.

So regarding an image for Vaermina, should I go with a statue depicting her or resort to some of physical form? She hasn't had her own expansion or big content to herself unlike Mora, Hircine, Molag Bal, and Sheogorath and thus she remains without a tangible appearance. Or at least, one that's up to date in the series and actually good.

If the former there's this, this◊, and this all from ESO.

If the latter, I only have fanart to go after and I find this interesting in particular.

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)

#137391: May 19th 2019 at 9:38:17 AM

When I'm doing profile purges (like what I did with Queen's Blade), I was trying to at least free up tropes and see if someone can get better options for such, not try to reinstate old profiles for said tropes.

Speaking of purging, I found the two profiles from Beelzebub, Hildegard and Hidetora Tojo, to be lacking in terms of content and interactions. I'm willing to delete them and free up Peek A Bangs and Unskilled, but Strong. Is that alright?

Edited by r-lock256 on May 19th 2019 at 9:39:01 AM

WeirdWarrior Press 5 For Senor from the Sunshine State Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.

Press 5 For Senor

#137392: May 19th 2019 at 9:52:49 AM

@Crownless: I'd pick the latter, if only because I find that piece of fan art to be fucking awesome.

"Goodbye, stupid real world and HELLO, TV Tropes Pantheon!"

Now that those two are out of the way, I'd like to propose a couple of suggestions I had for quite some time.

Frank Zhang, God of Drama-Preserving Handicaps: In the book, Frank's life is tied to a piece of fire wood, and should it ever be burned up completely, Frank will die. What is especially notable about Frank is that fate itself gave him this handicap since it decreed he was too powerful due to the abilities he inherited from both his mother, who is able to shapeshift into animals, and his father, who is the Roman God of War.

Hazel Levesque, Goddess of Girls who Love Ponies: In the series, Hazel is known to have an affinity for horseback riding due to the fact that whenever she is riding horses, cursed gems don't appear from the earth, which makes Hazel feel like she is temporarily rid of powers. Not to mention that her love for horseback riding causes her to carry a cavalry sword with her, in spite of the fact that it causes the Romans to look down on her for it.

Jason Grace and Piper McLean, Deities of Offscreen Breakups: In spite of the fact that Jason and Piper were a couple in the "The Heroes of Olympus," they're shown to have broken up by the time "The Trials of Apollo" takes place since the two felt like they were forced to become a couple for the sake of their parents, which made them feel like they had no say in their relationship.

In addition, I'd like to rework Harry Dresden, as not only does he have two profiles (one in Attitude and one in Combat Magic), the profiles themselves are terribly written.

Can I go ahead with these suggestions?

Edited by WeirdWarrior on May 19th 2019 at 1:00:55 PM

This time, I'm really gonna do it.

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#137393: May 19th 2019 at 9:54:03 AM

Today was the series finale for Star Butterfly. I guess if someone wants to touch up any profiles, they could.

TheWikiaEditor Since: Sep, 2018

#137394: May 19th 2019 at 10:02:02 AM

for all three.

@r-lock256 I'd personally like to hold off on the purging and let someone try and rework the profiles first. I can work on the Queen's Blade and Beelzebub characters, for instance.

I agree that if a better candidate exists, or if the current holder doesn't fit their assigned trope, we can remove/replace them. That being said, I don't see anything about the current candidates that renders them unfit for their current tropes, other than having weak profiles.

Regarding Cattleya, she does actually qualify for the trope, as her figure is noticeably chubbier compared to all the other characters, and yet she's also attractive. So yes, she qualifies.

Edited by TheWikiaEditor on May 19th 2019 at 11:02:38 AM

wootzits Since: Apr, 2010

#137395: May 19th 2019 at 10:07:20 AM

But are they actually worth keeping around or are there better choices for their tropes? I think that's the bigger question here.

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)

#137396: May 19th 2019 at 10:08:19 AM

It doesn't change the fact that they all have weak profiles and that both Peek A Bangs and Unskilled, but Strong (in addition to Meido, Braids of Action, Slime Girl, Big Beautiful Woman (I'm pretty sure wootzits said impossibly huge boobs doesn't make it Cattleya and example of such), and Token Wholesome) can have other candidates other people may considering wanting in.

If a profile is weak, then the trope the profile has can be questioned. It's what happened with Happy and Accessory-Wearing Cartoon Animal (which is being given to Detective Pikachu).

Edited by r-lock256 on May 19th 2019 at 10:08:30 AM

WeirdWarrior Press 5 For Senor from the Sunshine State Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.

Press 5 For Senor

#137397: May 19th 2019 at 10:26:02 AM

I did also suggest that Detective Pikachu could take Talking Animal, since I'm certain that that trope hasn't been taken yet.

This time, I'm really gonna do it.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!

Shocking Gun!

#137398: May 19th 2019 at 10:43:00 AM

Talking Animal is rather weak to Detective Pikachu since the part of the point with him is that only Tim can understand him due of reasons of varying degree.

Is there any works where the original Minotaur is portrayed as an actual character?

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012