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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand
May 14th 2019 at 7:48:37 PM

Is there anything else I need to add to Abel?

Abel, God of Envied Successful Siblings (The First Martyr, Hābīl, Infernal Guinea Pig, Bree Garland, SCP-076-2, Able)

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Abel as depicted in DC Vertigo
  • Adopted from: The Wikia Editor
  • House: Siblings (House of Family)
  • Intermediate God
  • Symbol: The stone used to bludgeon him
  • Alignment: Neutral Good (usually)
  • Portfolio: Public-Domain Character, The Original Abel, First Being To Be Killed In Biblical Lore, considered Too Good for This Sinful Earth, Rightly Self-Righteous, Prefers Meat Sacrifices, Responsible Sibling To Cain's Foolish Sibling, Successful Sibling Syndrome
  • Domains: Shepherds, Religious Figures, Meat, Sources of Envy, Death, Victims
  • Worships: God (includes The Alpha and Omega, God(God, the Devil and Bob), The Love That Moves The Stars)
  • Interests: Those of the Abrahamic faith
  • Allies: Kazuya Minegishi (his reincarnation), Mufasa, Yu Narukami, Dream of the Endless, The Cryptkeeper, Steve Irwin, Jonathan Joestar, Kenny McCormick, Luigi, Carl and Ada Clover, Lina and Rylai, Switzerland
  • On speaking terms with: SCP-073 (Alternate Self of Cain)
  • Enemies: Cain (usually), Vandal Savage, The SCP Foundation, Scar, YHVH, Lucifer(Supernatural), Shinji Matou, Dio Brando, Oryx
  • Opposes: Swim Swim, Kane, Naoya and those who've committed fratricide
  • Annoyed by: Lord Byron
  • According to the The Bible, the first children born were Cain and Abel. Cain was a farmer and Abel a shepherd. Abel was favored over Cain by God with his sacrifices, giving meat compared to Cain's vegetables. This would lead to Cain's jealously for his brother reaching a boiling point, bludgeoning Abel to death with a rock. Thus Abel is thought to be the first person to die, and the first murder victim.
  • With very rare exceptions, he does not get along with Cain since he murdered him. The fact they share the same sub-house has make this even worse. He certainly doesn't get along with Vandal Savage, who may or may not be Cain and is as murderous as the worst of his brother. Kane and Naoya don't want to restart antagonism towards him, but he doesn't trust them either. SCP-073, having become a much nicer person since killing Abel, took the effort to bury the hatchet with Abel.
  • The only time Cain and Abel really get along is in 70's DC Comics' horror comics, serving as dual horror hosts. But even then, Cain devolves into constantly murdering Abel in the Dreaming, though only because it's in Cain's nature. He does not take someone else killing Cain kindly. That incarnation has come to sympathize with Kenny as they keep getting killed. The Cryptkeeper, a fellow Horror Host, is able to get them to behave for a bit.
  • Because of how he died, Abel is opposed to those who murdered or seek to murder their sibling. While he might have sympathy if the reason they were very reluctant to do so or it was an act of self-defense, he has no mercy for those like Scar. Also, while Shinji Matou never killed his adoptive sister, he did horribly abuse and rape her which gets him on Abel's shit list. Dio is high on Abel's shit list due to his aggressive relationship with his adoptive brother Jonathan Joestar, topped by not just killing him but also hijacking his body. Add to all the other awful things he did, of course.
  • Regarding fratricide, he's disgusted and disturbed by Oryx and the Hive Gods, as they're frequent practitioners in family betrayal and murder as a form of love. Even being expected practice throughout the Hive, none of the deaths they inflict on each are "true" because of Resurrective Immortality, and that it helps them grow stronger in accordance to their philosophy, Abel doesn't forgive it one bit. It's still utterly alien to hear that Oryx laughed with his sister after she blew up an entire moon just to get to him, and also went hellbent on wiping humanity from the face of existence when they slayed his son.
  • Sympathetic towards Jonathan Joestar towards the shit that Dio put him through, and Mufasa due to his brother murdering him. In contrast to those guilty of fratricide, Abel respects siblings that get along and want to look out for each other, such as Switzerland, Yu Narukami and the Clover siblings. Abel's proud to see that Lina and Rylai still love each other dearly despite their rivalry, and while under his brother's shadow Luigi remains devoted to Mario.
  • Prefers meat when at the pantheon's cafeteria, and good at shepherding livestock. He likes Steve Irwin as he's a kind soul who knows how to treat animals well. Believed to be the first martyr by some of Christian tradition, Jesus considered him "righteous". As such, he doesn't care for Swim Swim since unlike him she had what was coming to her when she was killed.
  • The Jews, Christians and Muslims in the pantheon have asked him if he knows what's with the multiple incarnations of God in the pantheon and why He preferred his sacrifice of meat over Cain's sacrifice of vegetables. Abel hasn't figured out that for himself, but believes the reason his sacrifice was preferred has to do with one of the following; it was a Secret Test of Character for Cain that he failed at, God disliked Cain's thoughts of envy or Abel put more effort and more of his supply into the sacrifice.
  • In the Dreaming, Abel has immortality which only allows Cain to kill him daily. Marvel Comics has him living with Cain in Cleveland's Boarding House of Mystery, brain-damaged because of "an unfortunate accident in their adolescence". They let Howard the Duck and Beverly stay when they have no money. Devil Survivor has it that he was reincarnated as Kazuya Minegishi. It turns out that YHVH planned for Cain to kill Abel to make him a martyr. This and His later actions didn't sit well with Abel.
  • Usually seen as the victim and Cain the unwarranted aggressor. Mormonism is even of the belief that the priesthood among the ancients was passed down from him, and he was ordained by his father Adam. The extra-biblical Book of Enoch his soul was appointed the chief of martyrs, crying for vengeance and the destruction of the seed of Cain. The Testament of Abraham raised him to the position of the judge of souls. The Coptic Book of Adam and Eve and the Syriac Cave of Treasures, state his body was placed in the Cave of Treasures, before which his parents and descendants offered their prayers. The Sethite line of the Generations of Adam swear by Abel's blood to segregate themselves from the unrighteous. How they'd react to Sam and Dean Winchester being both his and Cain's descendants remains to be seen.
  • Some find Abel less sympathetic; Lord Byron argues Abel was symbolic of a sanguine temperament, and Cain killed him for his hypocrisy and sanctimony. Naturally, Abel doesn't care for Byron's assessment. Supernatural stipulates it was because he was talking to Lucifer and Cain wanted to avoid his brother being corrupted, sending him to Heaven. Seeing what that incarnation of Lucifer would go on to do, it was a good call.
  • Lucifer (2016) posits that Abel was a Casanova Wannabe and an Asshole Victim; they both tried to kill each other, Cain was just the better fighter. His soul went to an Ironic Hell of partying and trying to get laid, only for Cain to kill him, which would endlessly repeat. He managed to get a body and ultimately reconciled with Cain, before dying shortly afterwards and going to Heaven. At least it's better than Abel's SCP incarnation, a respawning Humanoid Abomination known as SCP-076-2 or Able who's mind is full of violence and tries to kill everyone he can. He looks a lot like Gilgamesh in this form.

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M1gamiTensei 2edgy4me from THE SINS NEVER DIE Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
2edgy4me
May 14th 2019 at 11:58:12 PM

Three [tup]. Gonna be on a plane so sorry if I donít add yet

ĒDie monster. You donít belong in this world!Ē

Richter Belmont, God of Games Redesigned for Other Platforms (Rihiter, Richiter, Azure Vampire Assassin)

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Mainline design 

Edited by M1gamiTensei on May 16th 2019 at 3:03:49 AM

SOMEONE LOVE ME PLEASE
Siegfried1337 Well, what is it!? from Ashina Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Well, what is it!?
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand
May 15th 2019 at 12:24:54 AM

When talking about the Leroy draft I adopted, I proposed Flight, Strength, Heart (he has all of Stitch's powers, plus the meh power of being able to turn blue) and Good Colors, Evil Colors (he is an evil red in contrast to the blue Stitch). However people weren't able to decide on which trope. Can I have a consensus on which trope I should use for Leroy?

Representing New Zealand, TV Tropes addict
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
May 15th 2019 at 5:43:19 AM

So... HotmanX32 has notified me via PM that everybody in this thread basically thinks that I should leave the Trope Pantheons Discussion thread for good due to my... general misconduct.

I agree that I can be very annoying at times and have difficulty comprehending the warnings everybody gives me, so there is merit there.

But what I'm asking is this: Does everybody agree with him on this verdict? Do I have to be exiled from this thread indefinitely?

Disclaimer: I have not transcribed what Hotman said perfectly accurately out of mild laziness and due to how much it hurt to receive that message, which was more than half a day since this post.

Edited by nightelf37 on May 15th 2019 at 10:10:04 PM

If you can't get around it, go through it fast. Personas and Nanos, make 'em here.
fasoman1996 Imma gonna teach you a lesson. from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Imma gonna teach you a lesson.
May 15th 2019 at 5:58:26 AM

[up] Part of me wants you to go away. The other wants to be fair and give you a chance. But i have gave you plenty of chances and you always find a way to screw up.

Do whatever you want. Just try to don't be a problem for everyone else, you have some attitudes here that bother other tropers a lot and even when told you haven't improved on them

Angry rat.
Muundeis Seconds Before Disaster from Malaysia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Seconds Before Disaster
May 15th 2019 at 6:24:39 AM

[up][up] You may be annoying at times to everyone, but I don't think you should be forced to go against your will. Sure, Hotman has a good reason to want you to leave but it seems that he's doing so out of vitriol which is most definitely not polite internet etiquette. who needs internet etiquette

Honestly...? It's all up to you; I just don't want you to leave in massive tears.

Edited by Muundeis on May 15th 2019 at 9:27:10 PM

It is pointless to figure out how many layers of detached irony I have.
May 15th 2019 at 6:59:33 AM

Night@ Indifferent. Though, one troper telling you too leave might go against the rules in someway.

Edited by WhirlRX on May 15th 2019 at 10:00:49 AM

Gacha Is A Lie.
JRads47 It's Always Pizza Time from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
It's Always Pizza Time
May 15th 2019 at 7:22:42 AM

Edited by JRads47 on May 15th 2019 at 10:22:57 AM

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. -The Senate
May 15th 2019 at 7:23:59 AM

Satine and Christian, Divine Duo of Break His Heart to Save Him'

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From left to right: Satine, Christian

Raymond Reddington, Celestial Chairman of Criminal Organizations and Networks (Red, The Concierge of Crime)

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  • Potential Houses: Crime
  • Theme Song: The Blacklist End Credits
  • Demigod
  • Symbols: His Most Wanted Poster
  • Alignment: True Neutral (Neutral Evil to everyone else)
  • Portfolio: A Father to His Men, Affably Evil, Type III Anti-Villain, Badass Baritone, Benevolent Boss, His Berserk Buttons Are Betrayal, Human Trafficking, And Harming His Friends/Allies, Blue and Orange Morality, Consummate Liar, Consummate Professional, Cultured Badass, Deadpan Snarker, Even Evil Has Standards, Manipulative Bastard, Man of Wealth and Taste, Massive Multiplayer Scam, Pay Evil unto Evil, Sharp-Dressed Man, Stepford Snarker, Was A Naval Intelligence Officer Before Becoming A Criminal
  • Domains: Intelligence, Criminal Organizations, Trickery
  • Heralds: Elizabeth Keene/Masha Rostova and Dembe
  • Opposed By: The House of Justice and all of the good-aligned military deities
  • Allies: Most of the House of Crime, especially Kasumi Goto, Isabela of Rivain and Vito and Michael Corleone
  • Rivals: Carmen Sandiego, James/Jamie Moriarty
  • Enemies: Kano, Giorno Giovanna, Diavolo
  • The House of Crime is abuzz with its newest edition to its family; an ordinary-looking, middle-aged man in an expensive suit, fedora and overcoat carrying a briefcase. As it turns out Hotel Moscow (mainly, Balalaika) knows who he is. The Concierge of Crime himself, one Raymond Reddington, has come to the Pantheon.
  • About 20 years ago, Raymond was a Naval Intelligence officer who was being groomed for the position of Admiral. Then, he up and vanished. When he resurfaced four years later, he was selling classified documents to the enemy. He was charged with treason and convicted in absentia as a result. Over the next two decades, U.S. assets and agents in various locations all over the world was compromised as a result of his actions. During this time, he built up a network consisting of a motley crew of spies, thieves, smugglers, drug traffickers, people smugglers, human traffickers, arms traffickers, counterfeiters, forgers, hackers, mercenaries, and assassins. Then he turned his sights to the private sector. Then, he graduates to starting wars a d toppling governments and influencing politics. He became known as the Concierge of Crime due to his talents of setting up black market deals. With his ascension to the Pantheon, Red seeks to expand his influence.
    • Complicating his ascension was the reveal that he is in fact not Raymond Reddington, but an imposter who killed the man and assumed his identity. This caused a stir in his ascension process with people wondering if they could trust the man after all. But the deceit drew a near standing ovation from the House of Crime, even those who were wary of his work with the FBI. The house subsequently fast-tracked his ascension afterwards.
  • Soon after his arrival, he got to work finding associates to help handle his 'Blacklist' of associates he has worked with throughout the years. Among those is Kasumi, a shifty figure in Shepard's own network of misfits. The Master Thief had no qualms outing criminals as long as she gets to keep whatever loot they may have. And working with Red always provides her with valuable items from her victims.
  • Isabela liked his story on how he gave the middle finger to his naval crew before living a life of crime. She agreed to broker information for Red as long as she doesn't end up on the blacklist herself. There is also a bit of personal interest for her; there are certain people who have wronged her in the past and she would love to get her vengeance upon them.
  • It's little surprise that not everyone in the House of Crime approval of his betrayal. Some believe that handing out information to the authorities brandishes him as a traitor. This is no more true than with Moriarty. No one knows if the two associated with each other in the past. The only hint is with the way Moriarty grimaces whenever he hears the name. That and the fact that quite a few assassins that have went after Red have associations with the criminal mastermind suggests a connection between the two]].
  • He's also not on good terms with the defied military officers (the good ones, mostly) due to him turning his back on the Navy and going rogue. So much so that a good portion of them has a kill-on-sight order on him. This put the House of Justice on a disorganized front, with some willing to work with him to broker information and others wanting to either arrest or kill him outright.
  • There is no doubt that Carmen Sandiego has not associated with the man on account of how often the plays spoiler against him. There has been multiple cases where she steals items from under his nose once the perpetrator is caught. She purposefully keeps her network small to prevent such betrayal from happening.

M1gamiTensei 2edgy4me from THE SINS NEVER DIE Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
2edgy4me
May 15th 2019 at 7:36:01 AM

Time to end those monster memes

I donít think nightelf deserves to be kicked out. Heís done a lot for the Pantheon... thatís all I really gotta say on this matter. Using airport internet

SOMEONE LOVE ME PLEASE
May 15th 2019 at 8:13:09 AM

@Pat: How about wording Satine and Christian's title as Divine Duo of Selfless Breakups?

Crossover-Enthusiast Happy Mug from somewhere doing something Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Happy Mug
May 15th 2019 at 9:19:56 AM

@nightelf: ah geez. You repeat things verbatim tons of times which is kinda annoying, but I don't think you should leave because of it. If you need to restate things, change up the wording a little.

That goes for you too, RJ.

"Well, I've got nothing better to do." - Knuckles the Echidna
May 15th 2019 at 10:19:29 AM

@nightelf37 I don't think you should leave either. You've done a lot of work for the Pantheon and helped me get started on my sandbox back when I first joined.

fasoman1996 Imma gonna teach you a lesson. from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Imma gonna teach you a lesson.
May 15th 2019 at 10:25:13 AM

The best you can do nightelf is attempt to improve a few of your more annoying habits. Like, put some actual effort so other people don't get bothered by it.

No passive-aggressive remarks, no editing sandboxes without permission, no nagging others about ideas, etc.

Angry rat.
May 15th 2019 at 10:28:42 AM

A bit of criticism on my part, but we all have talked about giving nightelf chances multiple times over the course of a couple years.

I generally haven't seen much improvements and I don't know if I'm willing to take any more chances with someone that's been repeatedly told to improve their behavior.

I know it takes time for someone to improve, but I'm skeptical about the chances in my opinion.

TPPR10 I stare through your soul from Suomus Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I stare through your soul
May 15th 2019 at 10:38:25 AM

I just remembered that Noel Vermillion should get her trope changed to Short-Range Long-Range Weapon. The thing is that I really don't know what how to apply changes in terms of her profile and such. Plus if there is anything else to add to her.

In the meanwhile.

Absolute Virtue, Deity of Seemingly Unbeateable Bosses (Virtuous Saint)

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  • Overdeity (May actually be more powerful than the Dark God Promathia)
  • Symbol: Pure white exploding baby dragons
  • Alignment: Lawful Evil (or Good, none truly know)
  • Portfolio: Bosses You Are Not Suppose to Defeat But Some Still Can, Victim of Exploits, Technically a Dragoon, Giant Pointy Staff, Auto Regen, Wind Magic, Drawn-Out S'es, Has Loot on Him, Benediction, Nigh-Invulnerability, Winged Humanoid
  • Domains: Other Dimensions, True Power, Eternity
  • High Priest: Lord British
  • Allies: Status Quo, Yiazmat
  • Rivals: Naoki Kashima, Nine-Ball
  • There are many deities who are claimed to be unbeatable. And then there is Absolute Virtue. Simply put, you are not suppose to kill him. And he makes sure that you will never get close to dealing the finishing blow. However, many have found ways to beat the unbeatable titan, were they time-consuming or cheap. That being said, Status Quo is practically on Absolute Virtue's side on making sure that It Only Works Once.
    • That being said, there is a way to defeat Absolute Virtue which the creature itself accepts as the "true way" of defeating it. Good luck figuring it out, though.
  • The struggle between him and Lord British on this position was hard, but ultimately Absolute Virtue won over the simple fact that there is multiple still valid ways to beat Lord British, where as there is only one true way of beating Absolute Virtue.
  • Absolute Virtue used to be hailed as Deity of Near-Literally Unbeatable Bosses but problem raised when one takes into consideration that you don't need to defeat Absolute Virtue. Even moreso once Nine-Ball decided to rain down on it's parade by taking over it's temple. After Absolute Virtue's reascension, the two have been locked into conflict ever since.
  • Note that Absolute Virtue is not really an aggressive monster. It won't pursue you if you don't even think of challenging it.
  • The closest any mortal has ever gotten for a respectable victory against it were the brave FFXI players who fought the Pandemonium Warden for eighteen hours straight. Absolute Virtue allowed them to face It as a reward for their tenacity, and they were never heard from again.
    • Speaking of, The decisive battle that took place between the two was predicted by the gods as being so long they had to make them fight for their worth in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. The two were so caught up in their battle that it took two real-world years, or roughly 1400 years for them before Pandemonium Warden crawled out of a dimensional vortex whimpering. Virtue, realizing the battle would never end in a clash of power, let PW nearly kill him, then healed himself to full in an act that completely shattered his will. Virtue thought this was a fitting end to his rival, as it was the same method PW used to drive the aforementioned players away from the realm of gaming.
  • Has a friendly rivalry with Naoki Kashima, its opposite in JRPGs.

The Witch of Deep Staring
Siegfried1337 Well, what is it!? from Ashina Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Well, what is it!?
May 15th 2019 at 11:44:07 AM

Been a long time since I posted this. I'm not sure if I portrayed Kirei Kotomine correctly for this one. Should I change it to allies or teeth-clenched teamwork for his relation with Aldrich? Also, what relations should Aldrich have with the Bloodborne deities, along with Angra Mainyu and Beast/II?

Aldrich, Ungodly Abomination Who Enjoys The Sound Of Screams (Saint of the Deep, Devourer Of Gods)

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  • House: Cruelty and Sadism (House of Villains)
  • Leitmotif: Aldrich, Devourer of Gods
  • Greater God
  • Symbol: The Aldrich Faithful emblem.
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Fat Bastard, Devouring So Many People He Became A Monstrous Blob Eldritch Abomination, Climax Boss, The Only Lord Of Cinder To Be Flat Out Evil, Completely Unsympathetic, Cannibalism Superpower, Theophagy, Luxuriating In His Victim's Screams, Was Once a Man
  • Domains: Gluttony, Cannibalism, Monsters, Blobs, Sludge, Darkness
  • Heralds: The Aldrich Faithful
  • Followers: Malacath, Akalich, Torg
  • Divine Servant to: Pontiff Sulyvahn
  • Allies: Darkseid
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Kirei Kotomine, Gilgamesh (Nasuverse)
  • Enemies:
  • Aldrich was formerly a holy cleric that originated from Irithyll, but after obtaining visions of a "deep sea", he began eating people to obtain power, and later founded the Church of the Deep, which provided Aldrich with a good amount of sacrifices to feed him. During his time, he shared his Ruby and Sapphire to his followers to show them the final shutters of life while enjoying his victim's screams. His vision of the "deep sea" often intoxicated his followers or even corrupted them into Deep Accursed, and even the Deep turned him into a rotting sludge, and still retained his hunger. At one point, he became a Lord of Cinder, though it's unknown if he was either forced to do this, or he become one through sheer might after being imprisoned in the Cathedral of the Deep. After seeing the end of the Age of Fire, he began to dream of the Old Gods of Lordran, and neglected his throne for devouring gods. Eventually, with the help of Pontiff Sulyvahn, alongside the Church of the Deep, he managed to devour Gwyndolin, and was implied to also devour Smough during his last stand at Anor Londo, and possibly Gravelord Nito's corpse as well. During his devouring of Gwyndolin, he dreamt of a pale girl in hiding, resulting in him gaining the power of Lifehunt. By the time the Ashen One came to return him to his throne, most of the damage was already done and was eventually finished off.
  • His ascension to the Pantheon was rather unorthodox: rather than receiving approval at the Court of the Gods, Aldrich instead ascended through sheer might, with many of the more moral villainous deities expressing horror at his temple, which was a Deep-defiled Anor Londo. Needless say, upon hearing of this, the Ashen One quickly prepared a massive armory to prevent the Deep from spreading all over the place.
  • His covenant, the Aldrich Faithful, protects him from any intruders that dare to interrupt his gourmet, and farm Human Dregs from their corpses to offer to their deity.
    • It's been also found out that the Ashen One used to be part of the covenant. However, the Ashen One has stated that they only joined the covenant because they wanted to learn the knowledge of the Great Deep Soul sorcery. After this, they later exited the covenant out of disgust, and later turned against him. The Ashen One has since tried to make up for this by assisting those who seek to defy Aldrich.
  • Aside from the Ashen One, Aldrich has also made a lot of enemies from his home realm too:
    • Lord Gwyn was appalled to learn that he not just defiled Anor Londo and corrupted his faithful Silver Knights, but also ate Gwyndolin. While he did raise him as the opposite sex, at least he would never resort to such debauchery.
    • Ornstein and Smough have the same reasons for opposing Aldrich, especially regarding Smough since he died during his Last Stand against the Church of the Deep. Ornstein in particular feels a bit regretful that he was unable to come back in time to save Smough from the defilers.
    • Knight Artorias also has a grudge against him for the same reason, but he also found out that his Greatsword can also inflict additional damage towards him, making him a viable threat to Aldrich.
    • The Chosen Undead, being a former Darkmoon Knight, was horrified to see the remains of Gwyndolin sticking out of Aldrich. To make things worse, reports from the Chosen Undead indicate that Gwyndolin is still alive yet not in control of his body. This left the Chosen Undead into a period of trauma, before taking up arms against Aldrich.
    • Surprisingly enough, even Manus appears to oppose the abomination. While the Abyss may have a neutral but corrupting influence, it has produced non-hostile entities. The Deep, on the other hand, used to be a place where souls peacefully rest until something corrupted it. While they may look the same, there are enough viable theories that they are very different.
  • Even since his ascension, the Aldrich Faithful have been seeking members to increase their strength into protecting Aldrich.
    • Kirei Kotomine, having sacrificed a lot of orphans from the Fuyuki fire to have their mana fed to Gilgamesh during the 5th Holy Grail War, has joined as of the enforcers. However, while he does indeed enjoy pain, the only reason why he even enjoys it is because he is still wondering why is he born evil in the first place, not helping by his moral compass tell him that's wrong. The same goes for the servant he brought over as well, Gilgamesh, also with different reasons; One, he was met with a cruel death with a similar entity called The Shadow at one point, and Two, his defilement of Anor Londo reminded him of Babylonia being drowned by the Primordial Sea of Life by Tiamat.
    • Darkseid, believing that the Age of the Deep Sea would bring despair and nihilism to the people that he eats, views him as an essential tool into bringing the Tyranny that was Apokolips into the Pantheon, and currently acts as one of the major members of the Aldrich Faithful.

POWER UP THE BASS CANNON... FIRE!!!!!
May 15th 2019 at 12:18:37 PM

[up] I feel you should on work on the allies section since I'm pretty Aldrich would at least have more than Darkseid in terms of allies. I don't know much about Kirei Kotomine, the Bloodborne entities, Angra Mainyu and Beast/II so I can't really help you there.

Edited by thej13579 on May 15th 2019 at 12:26:58 PM

TPPR10 I stare through your soul from Suomus Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I stare through your soul
May 15th 2019 at 1:00:13 PM

I notice that Roy is in both Character Writing and Character Reveals. He needs to be removed from either one.

The Witch of Deep Staring
TimeyWimeyBall He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named from In a galaxy far, far away... Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named
May 15th 2019 at 1:15:10 PM

Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin, Patron Saints of Headbutting Best Friends (Napoleon: Cowboy, Mr. Solo; Illya: Tovarisch, Red Peril)

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Left:Illya Kuryakin; Right:Napoleon Solo

Solo's film counterpart 

Kuryakin's film couterpart 

  • Pontential House: Friendship Dynamics

  • Demigods

  • Symbol: A male silhouette beside a globe, with the initials U.N.C.L.E written below

  • Theme Song: Man From U.N.C.LE Suite, alternatively Escape From East Berlin

  • Alignment: Lawful Good, with shades of Neutral Good

  • Portfolio: Both: BadassesInANiceSuit, Chick Magnets, Men who Provide Fanservice, Deadpan Snarkers, Vitriolic Best Buds, True Companions, Odd Couple

  • Domains: Espionage, Cold War, Agility, Infiltration

  • Herald: Gaby Teller
  • High Priests: Art Ridzik and Ivan Danko

  • Allies: The GUAG, Nick Fury, Solid Snake, Roger Thornhill, Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow, The entire House of Love, Anastasia

  • Enemies: HYDRA, Any evil authoritarian figure in the Pantheon, especially those afilliated with Nazis, M.Bison, The GUAE

  • Friendly Rivals: Selina Kyle, Felicia Hardy (Napoleon Only)

  • Opposes: Liberty Prime, Chin
  • Opposed by: Ethan Hunt (Napoleon Only)

  • Odd Friendship with: The Lone Ranger (Illya Only)

  • Pities: Elena (Napoleon Only)

  • Confused around: Lara Croft (Illya Only)

  • Conflicting Opinions on: James Bond

  • It was a calm day on the Patheon, until a alarm could be heard on the distance. The Gods were puzzled at first, but soon figured out that someone was breaking into the safes of some houses. They finded the culprits: Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin, two of the best U.N.C.L.E agents, who wanted some information on nuclear weapons and their storages, were infiltraded in the Pantheon. The agents realized what they were doing, and soon apologized, after finding out that the Pantheon was the wrong place for finding something like that. They soon found themselves with a seat on the House of Friendship, as a pardon from the gods.

    • Their origin is mostly unknown, but the more accepted theory is that they were a CIA and a KGB agent ensigned together relutanctly by their superiors to a mission in Rome to track down a scientist who worked for the Nazis during World War II that was now with a family affiliated with Italian Fascists, the Vinciguerras, on a new nuclear superweapon. At the same time, they were encharged of protecting his research files at any cost. Even if it meant to kill each other. They Take a Third Option and burned the tape that contained those files. Waverly were also in Rome and was taking part on this mission, and when he saw their exploits, he was motivated to establish his own intelligence service by recruiting them: U.N.C.L.E.

  • The entrance to their temple is a tailor's shop, much like the entrance to the U.N.C.L.E's headquarters in New York.

  • While they can get along pretty well (He may or may not might helped them during a mission and his superior Ian Fleming collaborated in some of the concepts to their TV series), they both disagree on some things with James Bond, especially his treatment of women. They respect women who doesn't correspond their affections, and think that sometimes Bond can be somewhat forceful and brutal in this matter. Nonetheless, Bond was the first deity to congratulate and welcome the duo upon their ascention.

  • Their infltration abilities didn't past unoticed. The GUAG soon realized that they could be useful on the next time that they launch an offensive against Melkor, mostly to gather important information and are planning to recruit them to the Intelligence Service.

  • Due to their status as Chick Magnets, the House of Love soon started to drool over them. Napoleon was flattered, while Illya was mostly indifferent. Solo can be seen frequently on the house, when they are off-duty. Illya actually can't step there without having a miriad of gods fawning over him. Believe it, he tried.
    • Though, he grew annoyed by Claude Frollo, due to his forceful behavior towards Esmeralda, saying that she doesn't deserve someone like him and that he was a repulsive man.

  • Since their arrival, Illya struck a loyal bond to the fellow Russian god Viktor Reznov, despite him having a strange relationship with the House of Friendship, due to Illya holding a position in the Soviet Navy, and the fact that both of them have gone through a lot of unamusing things on the hands of their former bosses (Reznov being made a guinea pig, Illya being threatened to be sent to a gulag if the mission didn't work). Reznov even introduced Illya to other good-alligned Russian gods.

    • But Nikita thinks that Illya is a "traitor" simply because his best friend is an American. Illya also don't trust him much, being disgusted by his ruthlessness and his immorality (what he did to Reznov might have collaborated to this) and because he thinks that Nikita's plans to restore the Soviet regime is 'nonsensical' and he really should realize that the end of the era is over.
      • Vladimir once tried to deflect Illya from his position, but figured out that Illya is completely loyal to his and Napoleon's obligations, considering him then one of his sworn enemies.

  • Like many other spy deities, they have a good relationship with The Spymaster, Nick Fury, considering him a lot like their boss, Waverly. Very often Fury assigns them to many missions within the Pantheon.

  • Napoleon gets along well with Superman, due to the fact that in his other portrayal, The Man of Steel looked like him.

    • And for that same reason, Henry VIII mistook Solo with his best friend, Charles Brandon. He had already done that to Superman.

  • They can be found taking part on missions with fellow spy Allies: Natasha Romanoff and Solid Snake. Natasha and Napoleon on infiltration missions, Illya and Snake on stealth missions.

  • Napoleon met fellow burglars Selina Kyle and Felicia Hardy. They established a rivalry due to their status as a Gentleman Thief and Classy Cat-Burglars respectively that usually ends up with them stealing from one another, but they get along well. Very well. There are rumors that in one point the three of them have slept together, but neither deity denies or confirms this.

  • Illya met and forged a friendship with NCIS officer Leroy Jethro Gibbs. Gibbs thinks that he reminds him of his friend, NCIS Historian Dr. Donald "Ducky" Mallard, when he was younger.

  • Upon hearing about her relationship with Gentaro, Napoleon felt sorry for Elena and wishes to help them reconcile, due to his matchmaker reputation. Elena appreciated his help, but sayed that for now, he doesn't need to worry about it as her relationship with Gentaro is in a temporary hold, so to speak.

  • They also don't trust Liberty Prime too much. Liberty was built to eliminate Communists on American soil. Napoleon, himself having his best friend who is a Communist, tries his best to stay away from the robot.

    • They also oppose Chin for that same reason, for fear that, if one day they come near him, he might want to kill Illya with one of his energy beams.

  • Recently, they have been helping Roger Thornhill in clearing his reputation, since his story became a sort of inspiration to their's own and they have been known to help inumerous others civillians caught amidst international affairs during their missions.

  • One time, during their visit to Nick Fury and their other allies in the House of Professions, they were suprised to see their friend, fellow U.N.C.L.E. agent Gaby Teller, there. But it turned out to be Lara Croft, the Godess of Adventurer Archaelogics, whose appearance was the same of hers. Since he grew infatuated with Gaby during their mission in Rome while they were Undercover as Lovers, Illya felt nervous and distraught while near Croft, but mostly was confused as to why she could have such a striking resemblance. Napoleon was also miffed about it, but not as much. Of course, Lara had no idea as to why two secret agents were talking to her about a mission in Rome.

  • In their spare time, Illya can be seen on the House of Combat, training his Judo and Sambo skills.

  • Since U.N.C.L.E's primary objective is to end any major threat to world peace and to prevent any kind of mass conflict, they caught the menancing eyes of H.Y.D.R.A and its associates. The fact that they reminded the duo of the greatest of U.N.C.L.E's enemies, T.H.R.U.S.H., did not help matters. Frequently their primary missions are preventing H.Y.D.R.A's evil plans from working.

    • They also drawed the attention of the criminal organization Shadaloo and it's leader, M.Bison. He views them as a potential threat to his plans of world domination, and since then, ordered them to be killed if someone of Shadaloo finds them. Fortunately, the duo have succeded in foil Shadaloo's plans most of the time.

  • Despite his political views, Illya gets along pretty well with Anastasia, saying once that he saw no difference between him and aristocracy. Though she thinks that her royal status doesn't really matter, Anastasia was still wary of him at the start (he is a Red, for Pete's sake), but eventually saw that he wasn't like the other Communists within the Pantheon who wanted her dead or viewed her as a threat and warmed up to him. Illya even introduced her to Napoleon, who naturally started to lowkey flirt with her. When she told him that she was already in a relationship with Dmitri, he apologized and understood, but nonetheless became her friend too.

  • When they are out on a mission, Art Ridzik and Ivan Danko assume their places at their seat, protecting it from any casual threats. Just like Napoleon and Illya, both of them were an American and Russian officers paired up together on a duty to their dismay amidst the Cold War-era tensions. The fact that their partnership also started as a conflicting alliance and evolving to a still conflicting, but true friendship also helps.

  • Ethan Hunt doesn't like Solo that much, due to the fact that he thinks Solo values too much his trust over Kuryakin, to a extent that he can risk his own life over the Soviet's . The other reason is that he reminds him of August Walker, Hunt's rival and enemy of his latest mission. It isn't antagonistic, though; Hunt really just avoids Solo most of the times and don't talk to him frequently.

  • Also, please don't mention to them that one time when Solo had to dance with a man obviously dressed on a gorilla suit neither when Illya disguised himself as a Yeti. While it seems that Solo would only have a good laugh at remembering this incident, Illya's reaction would be... less funny and not pretty, to say at least, due to his Hot-Blooded tendencies. He tries his best to control it, but sometimes is not successful.

    • Speaking of past incidents, do not, I repeat, do not mention anything about Illya's past if you don't want any limbs of yours broken, or worse. Well, if you insist, his father had been declared guilty on charges of embezzelement of state funds and sent to a gulag, while his mother had to resort to... ahem...another job to support herself and Illya. There, now you've been warned.

  • Recently, the House of Food let some restricions regarding Solo entering there, as he is known to put ketchup on almost everything he eats, much to Illya's annoyance. He can stay in there, as long as if they keep ketchup bottles away form his reach. Sometimes it works, but eventually he ended up always discovering where the bottles are hidden. The deities ended up hiding it in some safes within the House of Food itself, but that also failed, given Solo's reputation as a thief and breaking into safes.

  • Since their ascention on the Pantheon, The Lone Ranger formed an unusual friendship with Kuryakin. When asked about that, he said that it was because sometimes, the Russian sound a lot like his film version.

Edited by TimeyWimeyBall on May 15th 2019 at 4:19:36 AM

May 15th 2019 at 2:01:03 PM

@TPPR10: Roy is under Character Reveals in Pantheon.Fire Emblem, so I assume he was supposed to be moved there but they forgot to remove the old profile. Cutting it there.

Muundeis Seconds Before Disaster from Malaysia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Seconds Before Disaster
May 15th 2019 at 2:56:51 PM

@Siegfried: Eh, your portrayal of Kotomine is fine so keep him under teeth clenched teamwork. As for Avenger and Tiamat/Beast II, Avenger sees him as a rival since unlike him where he wants to unleash "All the World's Evil", Aldrich just wanted to enjoy his victims' suffering which Avenger (who actually loves humanity) finds it a bit too much yet considers his sadism part of the many evils he embody so it's also a twisted form of Villain Respect. Tiamat/Beast II would be offended at Aldrich since in a sense, humanity are her children and despite showing her love for them by wanting to shove them back inside her, she feels the need to protect them from him. Aldrich himself cannot fathom why a primordial being with a twisted and destructive love for humanity would want to protect them instead.

It is pointless to figure out how many layers of detached irony I have.
rinrinboss Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
May 15th 2019 at 3:20:26 PM

Guys should we wait until Game of Thrones is over before working on profiles?


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