Trope Pantheons Discussion

Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!

I’m here to do something

#134401: Apr 15th 2019 at 4:51:51 AM

I think Galahad in Fate/Grand Order is against Chaldea because he believes that they are ruining the survival of humanuty because they defeated Goetia and as a result, he decided to not conspire with Mash as he stated that he just fused with her because he doesn't want her to die and she loses her Demiservant powers

What should be added to these two?

Stefan Butler, God of Choose-Your-Own-Adventure Stories

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/stefanvillain.jpg

Adopted from: rinrinboss
Potential House: Types of Narration
Rank: Quasideity with some moments of Demi depending on the choices/endings
Symbol: The Bandersnatch logo
Theme Song: Hold Me Now (by the Thompson Twins)
Alignment: Neutral Good by default....then switching to any other alignment depending on the choices/endings
Portfolio: Having plently of choices with Multiple Endings, but none of them are good except one of them may be bittersweet, being a Cosmic Plaything, Ambiguous Disorder, Constantly starts over his path, Depending on the choices, he will remember certain events on certain timeloops
Domains: Endings, Choices, Programmers, Timelooping
Allies: Phil Connors, Tree Gelbman, Stanley, ICEY, Frisk
On good terms with: (Insert Your Name Here)
Enemies: YHVH, Nerose Satanel
Additional Character Relationships: Stephen King
Opposes: Flowey
Complicated Relationship: The Narrator, The Heroic Protectors of Family
On a normal day of the Pantheon, somebody arrived unexpectedly with the first word he asked is, "Am I being controlled again?". Confusion spread around them as they thought he was being mind-controlled. The man introduced himself as Stefan Butler and told them his story of being an aspiring video game programmer who becomes aware of the constant timelooping that occurs around him, being controlled by someone and revealing the fate of who is controlling him depending on the choices he was given, and how his fate plays out depending on his choices. Upon hearing his story, a lot of them thought that he was unique and choose him to ascend with a cetain trope that they fits him best.
- For a week, Stefan does random things in the Pantheon to see if he is being controlled. Realizing that he could do things on his own, he knew that because he wasn't working on Bandersnatch, he was able to have full-control on his life and could never experience timeloops. He decided that the best thing to do right now was doing something good as he fears of being drove to insanity and wanted to use his free will for the best because although there may be some experiences in the constant timelooping that he actually enjoyed, he doesn't want to relieve the experience of doing something horrible again.
The first people to approach him after his ascencion are Phil Connors and Tree Gelbman, hearing that he experienced timeloops like them, albeit not in a way that they are expecting. Hearing his story, they feel bad that he is controlled by whoever is controlling him depending on what choice he was forced to do. Stefan is happy to hear that there are other people that experienced the same things as him, even if their situations and how they went through it are completely different and gained his first two friends.
Is wary of (Insert Your Name Here) at first, since he found out he doesn't know the reason why he was controlled by them. The former apologized to him and stated that they wished that there were choices that could give a happy ending. They seem on good speaking terms these days, with the former explaining to him about Netflix, since it is one of the choices that he was chosen with and he became curious about the entertainment program that is from the 21st century.
Is shocked to see that there are people that are in the same situation as him, which is the csse with Stanley and ICEY. The latter two are interested to see that Stefan experiences timeloops whenever the person whoever is controlling him makes a choice that meets a dead end. He became interested to know their stories and also sympathizes with them for the situation all of them were put in.
- His friendship with Stanley is what caused him to develop a complicated relationship with The Narrator. The former is irritated at the latter's constantly telling anyone of how their story should go, not to mention that he will put anyone in GLaDOS's test chambers if they go against his wishes. Stefan doesn't actually mind how his story should go as long as he thinks it's good for his well-being, but considering the consequences, he would rather have (Insert Your Name Here) because they are on good terms and the latter expressed genuine interest on giving him a happy life.
Became fond of Frisk as they seem to easily forgive him of the crimes that he would admit that he's proud of doing and sympathizes aith him of being controlled, although Stefan is a little bit envy that he is able to go to a Pacifist Route but it doesn't really change anything between them. He decided to keep an eye on Flowey as he didn't trust him considering what he did back in his own world and to make sure he didn't cause any trouble.
Approached by Stephen King one day as he actually admirred the Black Mirror series and was thrilled to see someone there ascended and synpathizes for what happened to him. Although he doesn't get what he is saying, he was interested to what he is saying.
- His encounter with him leads him to become much more curious about his own universe and wants to know what's going on there. He became interested to see that his universe developed such rabid technology that might occur in thr future of other universes since he lived in the 80s, yet he was also appalled to see that other people are abusing it to the point that it caused them insanity.
He knew that he still hates his own father, but he knew he doesn't want to actually kill him in the first place despite knowing that in some loops, he eventually expressed happiness after killing him.
The Heroic Protectors of Family don't know what to think of him. They are mad that he killed his father, especially how in one loop, he is rather gleeful about it after he does it, but on the otherhand, he was controlled by someone to do his biding. They decided to keep an eye on him in case he may do something horrible in the future.
Became bitter enemies with those that will do anything to erase free will in favor of their philosophy like YHVH and Nerose Satanael.

Merida, Goddess of Wild Hair (Red-haired lass, Princess, Wee darling, Wee lassie, Princess of DunBroch)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/merida_disney.png

Moving to: Hair Styles
Rank: Demigoddess
Symbol: A Bow and Arrow, superimposed over a Bear Silhouette.
Theme: "Touch the Sky"
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Rebellious Princess, Archery, Child Marriage Veto, Splitting the Arrow, Deadpan Snarkery, Celibate Heroines, Trying to Change Fate, Wild Hair, Jerks With Gold Hearts, Action Girls, Plucky Girls
Domains: Royalty, Archery, Fate (Defied)
Allies: Lelouch vi Britannia,Katniss Everdeen, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Winnie the Pooh, Paddington Bear,Teddie,Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Fa Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Anna, El sa, Moana, Vanellope, Ralph, Atsuko Kagari, Sabrina Spellman
Enemies: Monokuma and his Mastermind, The Wicked Witch of the West
Addiotional Relationships: Io
Opposes: Stephen Colbert
Wary of: Wanda Maximoff
Due to being a deconstruction of a Rebellious Princess later on as she learned to accept her mother's values and beliefs with her mother doing the same thing, using the royalty lessons that she learned from her mother to unite the three clans together, and wanting to change fate that she was thrown into thanks to the consequences of her actions with the help of The Wisps, she was forced to change into an another trope. The Gods eventually found one for her, Wild Hair, as she spends a lot of the film riding her horse or her mother's bear form and letting it loose freely, not to mention that according to one of the sources, she has over 100,000 strands of hair, which is why it looks really wild!
Has the support of Stephen Colbert as she and her mother killed a ferocious bear who was actually a human prince who loses his humanity. Although she doesn't like his opposition to bears.
Her followers on the mortal plane recite the following spell for strength and confidence in challenging fate:
I am Merida! Firstborn descendent of the Clan DunBroch, and I'll be shooting for my own hand!
At first hates Lelouch, as she heard about what he died in his world when he was the Brittanian empire, however after learning tha the did this to erase the hatred of the world by killing himself and for his sister to live in better place, she is now on better terms with him. Lelouch admires how rebellious she is to act on her own accord, but later on learns to love her own mother and her ideals and beliefs, and and how she managed to reconcile with her, unlike himself, where he thought that his mother is a sweet person, but turns out to be a Magnificient Bastard like his father.
As she is an archer, she entered a friendly rivalry with archers like Katniss, Hawkeye, and Green Arrow, who were that a princess managed to have perfect marksmanship with a bow and arrow.
She has caught the attention of bear deities considering that she forced her mother to eat something to become one. She managed to get along witj good bear deities such as Winnie the Pooh. She hates Monokuma as she hates his plans of increasing his plans on despair.
- Speaking of bears, she was once courted by Teddie, but she denied his advances, stating she would rather get together with someone if she knew she loved him out of true love. Although Teddie is bumped out about this, the two agreed to be friends instead.
Her encounter with The Wisps cause dher to believe that Io could also change people's fates, like hers. Although it couldn't do something like that, it has the ability to change lives.
Considering what happened to her encounter with The Witch, she isn't sure what to think of other witches in the Pantheon. There is definitely one witch she hates, The Wicked Witch of the West. It has to do with the latter's cruelty and unsympathy and was baffled that she only wanted to kill Dorothy because she stole her slippers. She thought that it was funny that her one true weakness is water.
- She's glad to see that there are other good witches such as Akko and Sabrina Spellman. She admires Akko's determination to become a witch despite the fact that she is struggling with it and Sabrina, although she can be a bit lazy when it comes to studying at magic, she is pretty good at it.
As a princess who forces herself to change fate thanks to The Wisps and eventually learning the consequences of how much she Screw Destiny, she is wary of Wanda Maximoff when she heard of how much she changed the fate of others and how hugely negative the consequences. She was glad to hear that Wanda is regretful of those actions, but for now, she wanted to keep an eye on her to see if she will suffer an another mental breakdown and if she will warp reality again.
The other Disney Princesses let her hang out even if she's Pixar, though sometimes they can't get past her thick Scottish accent.
- Merida holds a little envy on Moana's early maturity. While the Scot was a very Rebellious Princess before she learned her lesson, the Polynesian accepted her place just fine, only going against her father's wishes out of concern for her tribe rather than her selfish desires like Merida did with her mother.

Edited by louisent31 on Apr 15th 2019 at 7:56:28 PM

Just a sad, lonely girl

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#134402: Apr 15th 2019 at 5:22:42 AM

I have checked some of my earlier profiles and they haven't aged that well. I'm going to start with Gul'dan since he's had a huge role in Legion that went unmentioned until now.

So, any Evil Old Folks mages or warlocks? He used to be crippled too

Gul'dan, God of Cursed Artifacts (Darkness Incarnate, Destroyer of Dreams, Betrayer of the Orcs, The Warlock, Bloodreaver Gul'dan, Son of No Orc and of No Clan)

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^{Bloodreaver Gul'dan}

Greater God
Symbol: The Skull of Gul'dan.
Theme Song: Gul'dan's Entrance
Alingment: Chaotic Evil
Portfolio: The Orc behind all off the Horde's problems, Betrayed his previous Mentor, Evil Old Folks, Evil Warlock, Faux Affably Evil, Unredemeable Bastard, Hooded Orc, Lean and Mean, The creator of the Deathknights, Likes to decorate his outfit with Bones and spikes, Cursed Skull, Betrayed all the Horde, Smug Snake, Bad Boss, Drain Life, Met his end for seaking powers beyond his understanding.
Domains: Dark Magic, Necromancy, Betrayal, Deceit, Manipulation, Demons, Curses.
Heralds: The Stormreaver Clan.
Allies: Sargeras, Cho'gall (His former disciple. Though nowadays they suffer from Teeth-Clenched Teamwork)
- Other "Allies":Shinnok, Tzeentch, Medusa Gorgon, Dormammu, Zobek, Quan Chi, Fortinbras, Ghirahim, Mard Geer Tartaros, Dr. Weil, Warboss Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka, Nagash the Undying, Zhaitan, Leoric, Ragyo Kyruin, Starscream, Raynare, Master Xehanort, Immortan Joe, The Crow, Nightmare, Beelzebub, Diablo, Adria, Chernabog, Lion the Demon Witch, Melkor, Shiro Tagachi, Terrorblade, Father Homunculus, Führer King Bradley, Sebastian Michaelis.
Rivals: Nefarian, Sauron, Vergil Sparda
Enemies:
- From Azeroth: Thrall, Grommash Hellscream, Garrosh Hellscream, Medivh, Varian Wrynn, Illidan Stromrage, Genn Greymane, Jaina Proudmoore, Malfurion Stormrage, Alexstrasza, Ysera, Nozdormu, Yrel, Uther Lightbringer, Valeera Sanguinar, Rexxar, Sylvanas Windrunner, Alexstrasza
- Other deities from Blizzard: The Nephalems, Tyrael, Jim Raynor, Tracer.
- Other Enemies: Cosmos, Morrigan And Lilith Aensland, Ermac, The ascended members of Fairy Tail Guild but especially Gray Fullbuster, Meliodas, Adell, Raspberyl, Valvatorez, Fenrich, Rozalin, Laharl, Etna, Alice, Luka, Issei Hyodo and the rest of the Occult Research Club, Dante Sparda, Grenth, Kenshiro, Rachel Alucard, Bloody Marie, Hanzo Hasashi/Scorpion, Squigly, Filia, Raiden, Flynn, Rin Okumura, Defiers of Fate.
Opposes: The Beast
Gods interested in his Skull: Deathwing, Acnologia, Vali Lucifer, Azrael, Double, Eliza, Onaga, Grima, Nyarlathothep, Naoki Kashima, Nekron, YHVH, Lucifer.
Interested in: Vampiric deities
One of the masterminds behind the creation of the horde and cited as the most powerful mortal warlock in existance, pulling the strings from the shadows. Gul'dan in truth was another of the Burning Legion's puppets, using the horde as a means for the Legion to reach Azeroth but they were eventually defeated, Gul'dan vanished and him meeting a grizzly fate at the hands of demons in the Tomb of Sargeras. His evil was such that it remained after his death, having such a demonic power that he could power up a Burning Legion fortification. The schools powers were later claimed by Illidan Stormrage, turning him into a powerful demon and one of the greatest foes of the Legion.
Timelines rift were responsible for Gul'dan's ascension. Turns out that another version of himself managed to kickstart a Legion invasion in the world of Azeroth, movilizing the factions of the world to fight against them. This Gul'dan, while havind died at the hands of Illidan, was reanimated after some of his followers recovered the Skull of Gul'dan and revived from it, having retrieved it from the Treasure Vault. The Pantheon being the perfect place to start anew and bring chaos, having gained the title of Artifact of Doom after all his skull has caused, Gul'dan was far from done.
Gul'dan`s origins are shrouded in darkness and bitterness. Born crippled and weak, for orc's standards he was worthless and was vanished from his own village, with only a shaman from his home taking pity on him and advising him to seek the Throne of the Elements. After a long journey, he arrived only to leave empty handed, the elements having sensed the darkness within him and promptly rejecting his wishes. This only allowed Kil'jaeden the Deceiver to start whispering to Gul'dan and offering demonic powers that could grant him the power he so desires. And so, Gul'dan returned to his own village and killed every single one of the orcs from his clan, only stopping to thank the Shaman that believed in him and them promptly killing him too.
"I will not be denied! Your soul shall be mine!"

Uni cat

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!

I’m here to do something

#134403: Apr 15th 2019 at 5:30:41 AM

Is it just me or I didn't see Zeref?

I think his "allies" and enemies list are relatively long as well as other things, but I want to you include why is he in an "alliance" with them and why is he enemies with them as long as other stuff. (I think you know that this is should be a priority right now).

Just a sad, lonely girl

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#134404: Apr 15th 2019 at 5:44:39 AM

I have notes for some alliances but i'll need some help with a few. Some things changed since the profile went up (Circa late 2015) and so some relationships should change.

I recall him, Zeref and Shinnok being the top dogs of the evil GUAE magic group

Uni cat

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...

The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread

#134405: Apr 15th 2019 at 6:19:29 AM

What alternate trope can I get for Jake the Dog if Big Friendly Dog does not cut it?

Feedback Mode

Ninjas of the Ice: The Art of Fridjitzu, 1st Edition

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Potential Place: Books
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Alignment: True Neutral
Portfolio: Teaches Ice-Style Ninjutsu, Elemental Weapon, Hand Seals, Smoke Out, Me's a Crowd, Blow You Away
Domains: Books, Ice, Ninja
Owner: Ice King
Granted Permission: Greninja
Temporary Users: Finn, Jake
Object of Interest To: every Ninja fan, most actual ninjas (Japanese or not), the sub-House of Ice and Cold
After Ice King found an intruder in his secret chamber with his ninja stuff and this book in hand, and summarily froze them (fortunately for him, it wasn't one of the greater ninjas of the Pantheon), he decided it might be better if the book was stored in the Treasury. It took a few days for it to be authorized, and during that time, Ice King jacked up security (even asked for Finn and Jake's assistance) to protect the chamber.
- Of course, word soon spread, and during that interim before the The Art of Fridjitzu would officially be transferred, every sneaky god who had the slightest interest in the book made attempts to sneak in (some of them successful), and of course some of them employed distractions. Some wanted to just memorize the contents, some wanted to copy them down, and some even tried to steal the book itself.
- Naturally, it became a chaotic mess when some other deities who wanted the book decided not to bother with stealth and straight up stormed Ice King's temple. Finn, Jake, what few of the 501st could be spared, and other friends and hired help the Ice King could find began to fight off the infiltrators while Ice King himself, already close to the book, whipped up a storm in the area, hid the book beneath his robes, and used his Fridjitzu to try and hide until the infiltrators were forced to retreat and the besiegers were thwarted by other security forces who arrived to quell the mayhem that was going on.
- This continued for at least two more days despite security jacking up further until finally the request was approved. Finally done with this nonsense, Ice King decided that he would ask for another condition to protect it; only he is allowed to open it, and should be otherwise closed.
- The only individual who's exempt from this restriction is Greninja.
Unfortunately for Ice King, there have been a few who have successfully gleaned the book's secrets (without stealing it) during this interim.
- Among those are the Marked Ninja and Violetta Mondarev, two of the stealthiest deities in the Pantheon who don't have powers that would make the book's contents superficial. The former sees the merit in ice weaponry that would eventually melt away into water and leave little trace (besides possibly implicating Ice King for it), as well as some of the other hiding techniques Fridjitzu provides, while the Smoke Knight finds it neat to have an instant (if temporary) supply of weapons on hand to better protect Agatha against threats to her life. They had been among the first to learn what they can, before the less experienced infiltrators bungled their own stealth.
  - Actually, the Marked Ninja had already learned what he could from the book long before Ice King found that bungling ninja that spurred him have the book moved.
- It's true that she can already summon a ridiculous amount of weapons with her own jutsus, but being able to create weapons (even if they're ice) out of nowhere had its appeal to Tenten, and she managed to glean enough information before the whole mess forced her to back off.
- The Tenno have managed to snatch up intel from the book as well and have shared what they could to each other. Though thematically it would be most fitting to Tenno who use the Frost Warframe, the ability to use whatever ice abilities at ones own disposal outside of their own usual powerset can be handy.
- While not necessarily stealthy, Tenjian had participated in the race to grab the book with the assistance of his sister, Zonda, using her power of crafting illusions to help navigate through the defenses. He was motivated to learn whatever he can from the book to go with his already powerful Septima, Permafrost. However, while he has successfully managed to grab the book a few times, other competing thieves (and Ice King's defense forces) never gave him enough time to learn much from it before it gets taken away.
Given what it can teach (most ninjutsu books are mostly involved with the actual martial arts), and without any prerequisite ice powers, the House of Ice and Cold hold an interest in this book.
Naruto has noted that the techniques in the book is reminiscent of Haku's Ice Style Ninjutsu.
Hermaeus Mora has long since delved into the secrets behind the book before the pre-Treasure status heists even took place, befitting his title of the Inevitable Knower. The Daedric Prince however has not revealed that he has known such secrets to the public, opting to instead to use it as a bargaining chip when someone who wanted to learn the book's contents but failed catches his attention.

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database

yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

Chronicle Magician

#134406: Apr 15th 2019 at 6:20:08 AM

Alright, asked for this not too long ago, and here it is, the first draft for Tim Drake's solo profile.

Timothy Jackson "Tim" Drake-Wayne, God of Sidekicks (Tim Wayne, Red Robin, Robin III, Batman (Main and Beyond), Redbird, True Partner, Boy Wonder (Shared with all Robins), Mister Sarcastic, Alvin Draper, Tom Harper, Iggy Pollaky, Detective (by Ra's Al Ghul), Little Bird (by Lady Shiva), Gary Glanz/Spectacular Sunbird, Caroline Hill, Cal Corcoran, Rob Roy)

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House: Unchanged (Heroic Roles)
Rank: Lesser God
Symbol: The Red Robin Chest Insignia and 2 Robin-style Rs
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Being the Third Robin (And being Number Two to the Batfamily even after Graduating), The Cowl, Badass Normal/Worm/Cape, Audience Surrogate, The Chessmaster, Great Detective, Crazy-Prepared, Gadgeteer Genius, Hollywood Hacking, Chick Magnet, Scared of His Future Badass
Domains: Partnerships, Detective skills, Technology, Hacking
Herald: His girlfriend, Stephanie Brown AKA the Spoiler
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: The many unascended sidekicks in Comic Books (especially Mary Elizabeth "Bette" Kane/Hawkfire), Mindy MacCready, Ema Skye
Allies:
- DC Allies: The Bat Family (notably Bruce Wayne/Batman, Dick Grayson/Nightwing, Barbara Gordon/Batgirl, Cassandra Cain-Wayne/Orphan, Jason Todd/Red Hood, Terry McGinnis) and their allies (notably Kon-El/Connor Kent/Superboy, Kara Zor-El/Supergirl)
- Other: Peter Parker/Spider-Man, Miles Morales/Spider-Man II, Danny Phantom, Ashi, the House of Detectives
Enemies: Enemies of the Bat Family (especially Harvey Dent/Two-Face, Trigon), Dark Danny, Vile
Good Counterpart to: Syndrome
Just Friends with: Jubilation Lee/Jubilee
SiblingRivalry/TeethClenchedTeamwork: Damian Wayne/Robin
Friendly Rivalry: Near
Annoyed By: Timmy Turner,
Respected by: The Incredibles, Ra's Al Ghul
Interested in: Miles "Tails" Prower, Morty Smith, Maya Fey
Opposes: The Houses of Crime, Slaughter, and War in general
Shared the godhood with his adopted brother, Nightwing, until Dick decided Tim was ready to hold the position by himself.
After the death of Jason Todd, Tim (who, using his impressive detective skills, had already deduced Batman and Robin's secret identities) saw that Batman was becoming increasingly merciless without someone to keep him in check. Batman needed a Robin, and when he failed to convince the original to return to the role, he resolved to don the mantle himself, becoming the third Robin. Although he's since matured from that, he still has heavy ties to the identity, as his new superhero name, Red Robin, makes abundantly clear.
- Although completely capable of leading teams himself, he actually prefers to be the second-in-command and/or The Strategist of whatever group he's in.
- Syndrome is envious of Tim, seeing him as a harsh, irritating look into What Could Have Been had his hero simply accepted him as a sidekick all those years ago. The fact that Tim was accepted by Batman, the poster boy for I Work Alone, is especially grating. Tim has noted that, while Syndrome never got over Mr. Incredible's rejection, he never actually expected or even intended to be Robin, and his ultimate goal is to one day withdraw from the hero business, go to college, and live a normal life with his girlfriend. This has garnered respect from Mr. Incredible and his family.
- His wish to eventually retire has made him a noteworthy opponent of Crime, War, and Slaughter in general (he's hardly alone in that). He has an especially personal hatred of Vile, who reminds him of the General AKA Ulysses Hadrian Armstrong, his arch-enemy.
Is the best detective of all the Robins, and may one day surpass Batman and become one of, if not the, best detectives in the pantheon. Has gotten into a professional competition with Near for that title, and together they've set up a secure chat room where detectives from all over the pantheon can consult and swap theories with each other over cases. Batman likens it to a similar amateur detectives' chat room he uses to gauge other people's viewpoints and trade theories. Using this chat room, crimes that were once considered unsolvable even by the Pantheon's standards have been solved in literally minutes or hours.
- His investigative skills are good enough to have earned him the title of "Detective" from Ra's Al Ghul, who normally reserves it solely for Batman himself. After his half-sister failed to conceive a child with him, Ra's has been waiting for the right time to try again.
Although he'll work with any member(s) of the Bat Family that asks him to (and, by extension, fight any enemy of them, particularly Two-Face, who's the arch-enemy of all Robins as a whole and once beat him nearly to death on one of his first outings as Robin), he has a lot of trouble working with the current Robin, Damian Wayne. Due to his training from the League of Assassins, Damian believes that he needs to "earn" his place as "Robin" in the Bat Family and as Bruce's son, and seeks to do that by killing Tim. Even though Damian has long since learned this isn't the case, he still routinely sabotages his equipment in a way that could kill him. Tim understandably has problems with this.
- Unlike most other members of the Bat Clan, he has no actual desire to take on the Batman persona if he can help it, though he has had to on certain occasions, and in one universe even succeeded Terry McGinnis as Batman Beyond using some time travel shenanigans.
- Though he's acknowledged he has a thing for Batgirls, as all Robins do, he was still very confused when he heard of a universe where he ended up marrying Barbara Gordon. Not that he has anything against Barbara, but he doesn't really like her like that. If anything, that would be Nightwing's deal.
When not on a mission and often when he is, he's rarely seen without one of his best friends, Kon-El AKA Superboy, playing the straight man to Connor's outrageous behavior. They've been working on a plan to get their other best friend, Bart Allen AKA Impulse, into the pantheon so they can form a new incarnation of Young Justice. He's looked into other "sidekicks", like Tails, Morty, and Maya Fey, in preparation for that day.
- He's also known to associate with Supergirl, as they've both been members of the Teen Titans.
Not that he actually needs a reason to be enemies with Trigon, but his enmity has become far more direct ever since he took over his mind and steered him to rape two of his teammates in the Teen Titans.
Although both he and Jubilee still feel the mutual attraction they had when they first met, they've realized that much has changed since that time, with Tim having a girlfriend and Jubilee having been a vampire and having an adopted son. They've decided to remain friends for now, though there are some in the pantheon who would like to see them get together.
Met Spider-Man (both Peter Parker and Miles Morales) while on a mission (Peter's temple is in the same House as his, but he's not there very often) and noticed how similar they are in personality. It didn't take long for him to deduce Spidey's secret identity, and they often hang out with each other out-of-costume, although Tim tried to use the alias "Alvin Draper" at first. Peter knew that wasn't his name because "no one would introduce themselves with an awful name like that when they could use a cool nickname like 'Al' or "'Vinnie'!". Superboy was grinning all throughout the exchange.
- Peter introduced him to Danny Phantom, who was also forced to entrust his secret identity to Tim after he revealed he'd already figured it out without realizing it was even a secret to begin with. When he heard of Danny's dark future self, it reminded him of his scary future self who had turned evil, too. Tim has vowed to do what he can to help keep Dark Danny in check. After all, perhaps fighting someone else's future self will make it easier to fight his own, somehow.
Ashi once staged an intervention to get him to admit and discuss his suicidal thoughts with her. Although Tim was initially resistant, claiming he was too busy, he eventually relented. What they've discussed is known only by those two, but Tim's been in much better spirits since then.
Prefers to be called "Tim", but will also answer to "Timothy". However, he doesn't like the name "Timmy" and will not answer to it. For this reason, he tends not to stick around whenever he's in the same place as Timmy Turner. He's got nothing against the kid himself, other than the fact that he keeps following him around dressed as "Cleft the Boy Chin Wonder".

In another few hours, the sun will rise.

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!

I’m here to do something

#134407: Apr 15th 2019 at 6:49:59 AM

Just a sad, lonely girl

Patrickthekid Since: Sep, 2015

#134408: Apr 15th 2019 at 7:12:10 AM

@louisent31 Could you mention the Choose Your Own Adventure books? Perhaps mention the kid as the high priest.

@Gul'Dan Raislin could be mentioned as part ally or foe depending on their interests. He also has a debilitating illness.

Edited by Patrickthekid on Apr 15th 2019 at 9:16:02 AM

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!

I’m here to do something

#134409: Apr 15th 2019 at 7:17:54 AM

Doesn't seem to have a name since we are techinically the main character, but I'll try

Just a sad, lonely girl

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!

Shocking Gun!

#134410: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:11:43 AM

@lusent: Honestly, even though FGO Galahad is the version I am most familiar with, I have hard time actually writing about him. Like first of all, he initially refused to help Chaldea in the first place because he was so disgusted Marisbury's child experiments and only stayed around to look over Mash. Second is that after part 1, he might have more or gone "You fucked up, fuck you, bye", but it is hard to really pinpoint the full reasoning, so it is hard to fully call him out. Like I have my opinions on him, but I want to write it as neutral as possible.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#134411: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:25:23 AM

Okay so looking around tropes and found Jerk Sue to have no representatives. ^note But I do have an example that I would like to pitch for the role. Kicker Jones.

Now Transformers Energon is already considered one of the worst, if not the worst seasons of the franchise period, and human characters aren't really that beloved with some exceptions... But Kicker is truly something else. He despises the Transformers for completely dumb reasons, complains a lot, abuses his partner Ironhide, is considered The Load by the other Autobots, and yet is considered God's - or in this case Primus's - gift to the universe thanks to his energon-sensing abilities.

Time to explore the world!

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#134412: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:28:31 AM

No flame Bait.

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#134413: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:32:28 AM

No flame bait at all. Just a trope representative.

Time to explore the world!

JRads47 Me Listening to You RN from Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center Since: Dec, 2014

Me Listening to You RN

#134414: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:34:40 AM

For a flame bait trope.

Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

No. 1 Entourage Fanboy

#134415: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:35:39 AM

I don't have time to reply to everyone right now, so at least let me make it up later. For now, here's Kerry and Iri so far! It's still flawed, but at least give me more feedback for allies and enemies.

No-s mode

Kiritsugu Emiya & Irisviel von Einzbern, Divine Couple of Soft Women Comforting Saddened Men (Kiritsugu: Kerry, The Magus Killer, Mage of the Einzberns, Assassin, EMIYA; Irisviel: Iri, Caster, 'Dress of Heaven')

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Kiritsugu (left) & Iri (right)

^{Kiritsugu as a Counter Guardian}

^{'Dress Of Heaven'}

Intermediate Deities
Symbol: Kiritsugu's gun and Iri's DOH hat crossed together
Theme Songs: Magus Killer or his version of EMIYA (Kiritsugu) Silver Moon (Iri)
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral (Necessary Evil according to himself), Chaotic Evil as an Assassin (Kiritsugu); Chaotic Good (Iri)
Portfolio: Brooding Boy, Gentle Girl, Lady and Knight, Happily Married, Having crappy lives, Downer Ending
- Kiritsugu: Byronic and Pragmatic Heroes, Doing what he has to do, Dark and Troubled Past, The Unfettered, Necessarily Evil, Idealist turned cynic, "Kill one to save tens", Poetic Justice, Bane of all Magi, Talented and Broken, Jaded from failing to kill a vampirized childhood friend, Winning against magi with un-magelike abilities, Dull Eyes of Unhappiness
- Irisviel: The Ingenue, Heroic Albino, Healer with accompanying powers, Vessel of the Holy Grail which allow her to remember every Holy Grail War in the multiverse, Loves Kiritsugu's gentle side, Heart of the team, Drives well but doesn't know traffic cues, Cute and capable of combat, Loves Illya so much, Possessed and corrupted by Angra Mainyu, Sacrifice is in vain
Domains: Warfare, Pragmatism, Sacrifices, Love, Magic
Allies:
- From their world: Shirou Emiya, Archer (Kiritsugu's adopted son(s)), Illyasviel von Einzbern (their biological daughter), Rin Tohsaka, Artoria Pendragon (Teeth-Clenched Teamwork for Kiritsugu), Taiga Fujimura, Sieg, Jeanne d'Arc
- Other allies: Taylor Hebert, Takatora Kureshima/Kamen Rider Zangetsu, Raiden, The Dimensional Counterparts
  - Kiritsugu: Touma Kamijou, Homura Akemi, Lord Kroak, Master Chief, Yuji Sakai, Jack Bauer, Tavish DeGroot, Shinya Kogami, Garrus Vakarian, Commander Farsight
  - Irisviel: Sanae Furukawa, Yoriko Yasaka, Yutaka Kobayakawa, Ventus, Asia Argento, Mai Takatsukasa, Amy Rose
Teeth-Clenched Teamwork With: Most Heroic Kamen Riders, Oriko Mikuni, Optimus Prime, Diarmuid Ua Duibhne (Kiritsugu)
Enemies: Kirei Kotomine, Zouken Matou, Araya Souren, Melkor, The Millennium, Monsoon, Gilgamesh (Nasuverse), Sundowner, The Joker, Esdeath, Handsome Jack, Evolto/Kamen Rider Evol, Father Homunculus, Yaldabaoth, Master Xehanort
- Evil parents: Relius Clover, Professor Hojo, Dr. Alfred Drevis, Ragyo Kiryuin, Dr. Sofia Lamb, The Child Abuse Supporters, Ghetsis Harmonia
Pities: Captain Martin Walker
For the longest time, Kiritsugu Emiya have been killing mages left and right even before the start of the 4th Holy Grail War. That is until he is hired by the Einzberns to protect Irisviel, a homunculus who is groomed to be the vessel of the Holy Grail. She was also allowed to give birth, which sired Illyasviel. During their time together, they fall in love and their dynamic is exemplary; she comforts him when he's at his most broken. Needless to say, this doesn't last long as Iri got kidnapped by Kotomine and strangled to death by him when she told him about Kiritsugu's wish; after she fused with the Grail, Kiritsugu had to destroy dark constructs of her and Illya made by the corrupted Grail, breaking him even further. Their tragic story earns them their title to the Trope Pantheons.
- Kiritsugu ascended first as the God of Pragmatic Heroes which he finds to be rather ironic, having openly criticized the Throne of Heroes for taking glory in war and finding himself in a literal Pantheon of Heroes. He's okay with his title... then he got lonely without Irisviel around. He could have spent time with Shirou and Illya but they have their own friends to hang out with, so he decided to change his title. The Court of the Gods found out his compatibility with Irisviel is unmatched compared to other couples with a similar dynamic; knowing he will not let a happier couple get in but at the same time saving them from the harsh world that awaits them, Kiritsugu accepts the change. With that finalized, at long last he has reunited with the love of his life, Irisviel von Einzbern.
Applies to both of them:
- (TBA)
Exclusive to Kiritsugu:
- He's always known for his most surefire and pragmatic ways to solve problems and defeat evil. No matter how disgusting and dishonorable the method is, so long as it gets the job done. Opinions about him in the Pantheon are kind of...mixed. Despite them, he made it clear that he's not here for the glory, but only for the chance to do the right thing.
- He's somehow very fond of Homura Akemi for some reason. He cannot figure out why. He's also close to Jack Bauer due to kind of similar method in dealing with what he considered evil, and he likes one of his theme songs for some reasons. For that friendship, Jack has shared some knowledge with Kiritsugu, in particular his interrogation technique.
  - Likewise, he and Master Chief are on good terms, for a similar reason as Jack Bauer as well as their agreement that War Is Hell. While the Chief would definitely like to see Kiritsugu use his methods against the Covenant, he's not so sure he could see him go against Insurrectionists.
- Usually visits the House of Travel to relax at Inns.
- As a man who has seen through the hells of war, he develops a good rap with Martin Walker, often sharing stories on how hellish war is and how people should avoid it at all cost. Walker is a bit stunned with Kiritsugu's extreme pragmatism, though, to the point of comparing him of his bloodthirsty part.
- He made sure that not even his son Shirou knew about his ascension. But the first thing he did when he ascended was to sneak to Shirou's House, and after seeing him doing well on his own and learning about what a hero truly meant... There's just a satisfied smile on Kiritsugu's face.
  - He also knows Archer's identity and always made sure that he gave him a sad, but understanding smile on him.
- Is considered the bane of MANY Gods and Goddesses in the House of Magic, even Homura. None dared tried to piss him off or get on his bad side. When asked why, most followers would reply with "Does the term Magus Killer ring a bell to you?" Kroak does, however, approve of him and his philosophy.
  - He's still considered a more respectable 'Magus Killer', when compared to some like the Huckebein family. Kiritsugu also has nothing but disgust for that family.
- Arturia will work with him as a last resort. Despite no longer caring about him forcing her to destroy the grail, she still harbors disgust over his dishonorable actions and lack of decency. For his part, Kiritsugu will always consider her someone who is too bound by a romanticized view of war and chivalry to amount to much good in the world. And he could say the same with Diarmuid Ua Duibhne (since he never got to say that to him when he was around). He considered the hatred he got from them to be a natural reaction, they're never going to get along like water and oil.
- Thanks to his skill as a 'Magus Killer', he was eventually befriended by Tavish DeGroot since the Demoman has a large amount of hate towards the The House of Magic, mostly the evil ones. Because of this, both of them do normal hunts for evil deities within the house. Ironically though, Kiritsugu didn't want to befriend him since he may get into Arturia's bad side. He still became friends nonetheless.
  - However, at one point, Gul'dan's ascension in the House caused both of them to hunt the Darkness Incarnate. The damage around the house was catastrophic, and even destroyed half of the house itself. This became the last straw for Arturia and decided to place the Demoman in her Teeth-Clenched Teamwork list, with him being the THE 2ND LAST RESORT she will work with. This got both of them disappointed but still tolerable to each other.
- Ever since hearing all about Kiritsugu and how he suffers so beautifully as he's forced to lose everything he loves due to his ideals from Kotomine, Melkor is deliberately going out of his way to torment him even further with his forces of the GUAE.
- His hairstyle has been compared to Spike Spiegel's. This has sparked no reaction from the Magus Killer so far. Some gods have actually thought of a line by the words of "See ya, Magus Killer"
- Sympathizes with Raiden after hearing about his past as a Child Soldier, and having experienced what war can do to a person. Also sympathizes with Yuji Sakai after hearing that he is trying to end a war that has lasted for millennia and the war would eventually end humanity.
- Has been training for his inevitable rematch with Kirei Kotomine. The Grail War may be over, but the bad blood between the two men will never truly quiet.
  - In addition, he has been looking for a way to destroy Araya's apartment complex. Araya has anticipated this, however, and has erected new barriers to counter the origin bullet.
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Edited by Muundeis on Apr 15th 2019 at 11:36:14 PM

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#134416: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:35:50 AM

Oh very well. Didn't want to spark controversy here so I'll let it go. Just a thought anyway.

Time to explore the world!

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)

#134417: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:41:20 AM

We're going to capture all of your valuable treasures!! Here we go, you gang of clowns!!

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#134418: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:42:24 AM

I made Kerry and Maiev Shadowsong allies. A couples reasons for that is that they are both anti-heroes, hate mages and have undergone some Motive Decay as they went along

Edited by fasoman1996 on Apr 15th 2019 at 12:42:34 PM

Uni cat

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#134419: Apr 15th 2019 at 8:53:10 AM

Muundeis@ Finally, the Emiya family is complete. If it isn't mentioned, write how Iris have candid photos of Shirou.

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)

#134420: Apr 15th 2019 at 9:04:26 AM

This recent conversation about flame bait tropes being unacceptable got me thinking.

Since Barney has such a kind of trope, I was thinking of replacing it with Friendship Song. It happens on his program quite a bit, with the most notable one being "I Love You" (which ends every episode).

Could that work to replace Periphery Hatedom, his old flame-bait trope?

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#134421: Apr 15th 2019 at 9:07:18 AM

Im ok with it.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#134422: Apr 15th 2019 at 9:08:45 AM

Definitely. I think Barney is being unfairly represented with that trope

Uni cat

yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

Chronicle Magician

#134423: Apr 15th 2019 at 9:12:45 AM