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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

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Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • Gods can't be followers or high priests for obvious reasons.
  • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
  • No hype profiles, please.
    • So you ask, what exactly is 'hype profile'? It is a profile based on ongoing events that hasn't been around very long, but generates a lot of hype, possibly because of elements such as Wham Episode or Memetic Mutation or Large Ham or overall 'OMGAWESOME!!!' They're all not bad tropes, but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time). You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but don't make the profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
  • DO. NOT. put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, don't do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, do yourself a favor and delete it from that main page. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good & Evil Colors.
  • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
    • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
    • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
    • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
    • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to the Treasures or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Treasures or Dominions.
  • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
  • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
  • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you're only given three chances on such. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what's currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction.
  • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
  • Please use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, or something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted.
  • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this god has spots in other houses as well.
  • When writing facts/trivia about gods, try not to contradict what has already been written elsewhere.
  • When writing down the name of a Theme Song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name.
  • When adding an image for your God, make sure that it is not too big unless you wish to write more about the god you have chosen.
  • If you feel the need to remove a god for some reason and replace him/her with another, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. If you're lucky (and they're from the same franchise), maybe both of them can share the title "Gods of (Insert Trope Here)".
  • Certain tropes can have more than one God. It is not advisable, but it is not forbidden. Just ensure that this second God will bring in new flavor of the trope. If you have doubts on how to bring the other flavors, consult the Trope Pantheon Discussion forum. Case in point: In the original Greek Mythology (and later Roman Mythology), both Ares/Mars and Athena/Minerva share the title of 'God/Goddess of War', and even then, they differ in flavor: Ares is about brutal warfare, Athena is about war strategies and finesse, while Mars took up some of Athena's elements that he kinda differs out than Ares. If the original myth can do this, why the hell not for the Pantheon?
  • Be creative! If you need some time to work out your potential deity's profile, use the Pending Gods or Pending Gods 2 page to get help. Incomplete and/or low-quality entries are more likely to get deleted or replaced.
  • When writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. See also the Rules section. Especially the 1st bullet point.
  • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name.
  • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it's well advised not to abuse them. Aside from introducing too many niche concepts, there are still chances for new tropes related to your chosen deity's title to be launched through YKTTW...
    • Additionally however, the only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. IE: Their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they're closely associated with In-Universe, or both (example: Gangplank and his oranges).
  • Maximum number of tropes what a god should have is three, but don't try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused.
  • Some series will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps, as well. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it's because they're a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they're connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  • As far as deities from actual mythologies (Greco-Roman, Norse, Japanese, etc.) are concerned, try not to replicate the default myths about their characters and use a fictional counterpart instead. In other words, if you want to use the Greek/Roman god Ares/Mars, you can't add him as the "God of War", but you can use him as part of another trope as long as it's a different version of him. For example:
    • Zeus, while having elements of his persona from Classical Mythology, draws more from his portrayal in the God of War Series.
    • Thor and Loki's Pantheon portrayals are influenced heavily by their appearances in their Marvel Comics series.
    • Amaterasu is a woman in her Japanese mythology portrayal, but her Pantheon counterpart is the dog goddess from Ōkami.
  • Don't depend too much on the hype/meme train, don't just jump onto that train willy-nilly in order to put on some events or entry in the Pantheon. It might not last very long or represent the trope best. This is Trope Pantheons, not Trope Hype Train!
  • Unless the character proposed is specifically from the Abridged version, the character should represent the tropes in their canon selves. If they also happen to possess the trait of the Abridged self, good! But otherwise, get the abridged stuff onto just the flavor texts.
  • To prevent any surprising need to rework profiles due to new development, please restrain from ascending gods from a series before the thing is either released or for longer-running series, there is a good enough of a break from story. This also applies to already existing series if there is a new thing coming out.
  • Please be sure to ask in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you don't waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
    • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else.
  • It is much more recommended to word the title like "God of X" instead of "The God that Xs". This will give off the vibe the God actually ruled over that trope instead of just 'did X', giving more credentials to how it's the best example of the trope.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Deity Template 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Potential House:
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity. This doesn't always have to be a representation of power, but it can also represent influence in the Pantheon.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Song that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D.
  • Gender: For Pokémon deities only. Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
  • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
  • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies.
  • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals.
  • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes.
  • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that have various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.) other than allies, rivals, or enemies.
  • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Pokémon.
  • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
  • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or find pitiable.
  • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by, regardless of alignment.
  • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.

Edited by nombretomado on Aug 25th 2019 at 9:19:10 AM

igordebraga from Brazil Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Mar 17th 2018 at 11:59:41 AM

White Mage, Patron Saint of Brick Jokes
  • Proposed house: Theatric Convention
  • [tup]s: Master Hero
  • Symbol: Her robes
  • Intermediate Goddess
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: White Mage, Dude Magnet, No Good Deed Goes Unpunished, Using a Huge Mallet, Defeating the Final Boss For the Sake of Joke Whose Set-Up Was Years Ago
  • Heralds: Priest, Shaman, and Healer
  • Allies: Fighter, Warrior of Light, Rosa, Terra, Aeris, Rinoa, Yuna, Cosmos, Amy Rose, Ryu
  • Conflicting opinions on: Black Mage, Thief, Red Mage, Vivi, Garland
  • Enemies: Sarda, Chaos, most of the Final Fantasy villains, YHVH, Zamasu
  • Ascended in recognition of her defeat of Chaos, even if the only reason White Mage and her group defeated the dark lord was to fulfill a punchline to an anticlimactic joke set nine years before (as Black Mage was in disbelief that a party of only healers could go anywhere). And needless to say, both Chaos himself and his vessel in White Mage's world, Sarda, are pretty unhappy about her presence.
  • Aside from Token Good Teammate Fighter, she's not all that positive about the Light Warriors, given they're jerks who caused her much pain, even if indirectly, and still wanted to take credit for the defeat of Chaos if not for her eventually campaigning for the Dark Warriors as the true saviors. Special contempt is reserved for Black Mage, who's not only as evil as it gets, but a perverted Abhorrent Admirer. Still, Red Mage and Thief seem to not have much resentments for White Mage.
  • She's gotten along pretty well with Fighter's original inspiration Warrior of Light, and all the magic women of the Final Fantasy series. Even if her Black Mage forever taints her opinion of him, Vivi is still trying to win White Mage over, and the fact that in her world Garland was a Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain who White Mage decided to campaign as part of the true saviors also makes her not fully oppose the version in the Pantheon.
  • Amy Rose decided to go after White Mage hearing she was another girl who attacked with an Hyperspace Mallet, and their similar personalities made them get along, even if their love lives are true opposites (Amy is ignored by the object of her affection, White Mage is disgusted to no end by the guy with a crush on her).
  • Decided to come closer to Ryu for reminding of his former bodyguard, Black Belt, and White Mage has since assisted Ryu on occasion by healing him after fights.
  • Even if she indirectly is the God of her world as Sarda accidentally sent her to the beginning of time, where White Mage ordered the creation of light and matter, the Main House still thinks she's not that much more powerful than the Light Warriors. That being said, being a creator figure makes White Mage an automatic enemy of YHVH.
  • Is well-liked by Cosmos for her defeat of Chaos and being a paragon of good even if the Crapsack World White Mage lived in made sure all her benevolent deeds eventually collapsed. Zamasu argues her world is awful because her universe was created by a mortal breaking the time taboo and declare it beyond saving, expressing his interest in wanting to blow the whole thing up out of disgust. White Mage proceeded to hammer him in the face for being such a prick.

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Gods of Certain Doom Endings (Robert Leroy Parker and Harry Alonzo Longabaugh, Bandidos Yanquis)

MagnusForce You called? from Canada (or possibly Antarctica) Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
You called?
Mar 17th 2018 at 12:19:26 PM

Alright. First time with the Trope Pantheon, and trying my hand at submitting a deity.

Haruo Nakajima, God of Rubber Suit Acting (Mr. Godzilla, The Man of a Thousand Monsters)

  • House: Theatric Performers (House of Theater)
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: The original 1954 Godzilla suit
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: People in Rubber Suits, Kaiju, Toku, Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever,
  • Domains: Monsters, Costumes, Special Effects, Acting, Stuntmen
  • Allies: Godzilla, Rodan, Baragon, Ultraman
  • Opposes: King Ghidorah, Hedorah, Gigan
  • Haruo Nakajima ascended on August 7, 2017 after a long career of playing some of Japan's most beloved giant monsters and making people's dreams of meeting Godzilla come true at fan conventions.
  • Although he is far smaller than the monsters he's played as, Haruo Nakajima knows them like the back of his hand.
    • As the man who played Godzilla himself back in the 60s, Nakajima is one of the few gods the King of Monsters won't harm.
    • Asides Godzilla, Haruo Nakajima's the closest with Baragon as he was in the Baragon suit four times. Since three of those times, Baragon was changed and given a new name like Neronga or Magular, Nakajima can recognize him no matter how much Baragon changes.
    • Stays clear of King Ghidorah, Gigan, and Hedorah as he fought their rubber suit versions in his acting career, so the real ones don't take very kindly to him.
  • Although Ultraman has fought some of the monsters he's played as (including one that he swears was Godzilla wearing a frill), Nakajima is on good terms with the original hero of the Land of Light.
    • Ultraman's human host Shin Hayata has said that he's encountered Haruo Nakajima outside of the rubber suit twice. First was as a comical father scolding his son for wearing a spacesuit when there were fears of a comet potentially colliding with Earth, and then as a cop who tried to shoot one of Hayata's teammates Fuji when she got turned into a giant by an evil alien.
  • Haruo Nakajima is familiar with the risks of suit acting perhaps more than anyone else in the pantheon. He's broken bones, almost drowned, and been burned by pyrotechnics multiple times! Those gods less likely to ridicule the "man-in-suit" technique are often quite impressed with how he never complained much in his career despite the kinds of hell he went through to bring monsters to life in those stuffy and uncomfortable costumes.

edited 17th Mar '18 12:21:54 PM by MagnusForce

"Detecting trace amounts of mental activity, possibly a dead weasel or a cartoon viewer."
Donnietu from Stockton, CA Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Mar 17th 2018 at 12:40:07 PM

@Magnus Force: Did you ask before working on the profile?

@White Mage: Why is the profile picture above the title?

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
fasoman1996 Angry pure boi from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Angry pure boi
Mar 17th 2018 at 12:47:58 PM

[up][up] Hey there, i see you are new.

First, you have to ask about the trope before making the profile to see if they fit. Explain your suggestion to us.

OW 2 hypemon
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand
Mar 17th 2018 at 2:59:07 PM

@ Magnus: You need to discuss, but I am still intrigued by your idea

What more should I add to Blackbeard?

Edward Teach, God of Pirates With Beard Motifs (Blackbeard, Edward Thatch, Marshall D. Teach, Rider)
Historical depiction of Blackbeard
Click here  for his Servant incarnation

Representing New Zealand, TV Tropes addict
fasoman1996 Angry pure boi from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Angry pure boi
Mar 17th 2018 at 4:13:11 PM

A small list of what Eddie does:

  • Murders random joggers and pedestrians. Sometimes he even rapes them.
  • Masturbates in public.
  • Molests animals
  • Keeps body parts of his victims at home.
  • Sexually assault anyone, male or female.

Yeah, funny fellow

Edward Low, God of Attacking Someone More Dangerous (Eddie Low, Eddie, Ed, Filth Slayer, No-name killer, Keep-Fit Killer, Head Hunter)
  • Potential House: Criminal Punishment
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: His Knife as well as his blog avatar.
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Serial Killer, A Love to Dismember, Creepy Blue Eyes, Depraved Bisexual, Horrible Sense of Humor, Enfant Terrible, Psychopathic Manchild, Self-Made Orphan, The Sociopath
  • Domains: Murder, Insanity, dismemberment, Criminals, Twisted Love, Sexual Abuse
  • Allies: Jack The Ripper
  • Enemies: Niko Bellic
  • It was a day like any other, many deities doing their things as usual, until someone discovered a mutilated body of a deity who happened to be strolling around. When the person in question was revived, they felt shocked and couldn't describe who or what killed them. This series of events kept going for weeks, until the House of Justice commenced a special operation to find the culprit. After a long investigation and finding paralels to an infamous killer belonging to Liberty City, whose modus Operandi was killing random joggers in different places, it was found that the culprit was Eddie Low, a deranged human being whose hobbies consist of masturbating in public and tearing off the limbs of his victims. He was quickly apprehended after he tried to murder another deity but killing was not an option. In the end, Eddie Low stuck around after managing to evade the authorities and escape his trial by getting a house in the Crime House, although he is not very proud of why.
  • While Eddie was already infamous in Liberty City as the "Keep-Fit Killer", he met a rather unfortunate end when he attacked the wrong person. That being Niko Bellic that while they started on somewhat decent terms and Eddie believing he made a new friend, he eventually got angry at Niko because Eddie was creeping him out and decided to try to kill him. Big mistake as unbeknown to Eddie, Niko has killed dozens of mobsters and policemen and was a trained hitman at that, so he easily dispatched Eddie by gunning him down. Thus, the deranged Eddie Low met a gruesome end and a well deserved at that.

OW 2 hypemon
Mar 17th 2018 at 4:48:13 PM

[up]So the way the trope is phrase, Eddie is the idiot in trying to attack Nico, a more dangerous individual.

Gacha Is A Lie.
Mar 17th 2018 at 4:50:19 PM

[tup] for Blackkbeard. I've got no ideas.

fasoman1996 Angry pure boi from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Angry pure boi
Mar 17th 2018 at 4:56:04 PM

[up][up] Laconic: "Criminal targets someone much more dangerous than they appear. "

So how should i phrase that?

OW 2 hypemon
MagnusForce You called? from Canada (or possibly Antarctica) Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
You called?
Mar 17th 2018 at 4:58:32 PM

@Donnietu, fasoman1996, RJ-19-CLOVIS-93.

Very well. I shall explain my reasoning for his candidacy the best I can, and make a request.

People in Rubber Suits is one of the most well-known old-fashioned ways of doing monsters and creatures, and is still prominent in Japanese special effects today. I have browsed the Pantheon quite a few times and have never noticed any representatives of this famous special effect.

I picked Haruo Nakajima, because, as mentioned, rubber suits are well-known as a stock part of Japan's special effects industry. Godzilla is also one of the best-known examples of the technique's usage, and Haruo Nakajima is one of the best known suit actors on both sides of the Pacific, and not just in the kaiju and toku fandoms (he was featured as part of the 2018 Oscars In Memoriam!).

So, I now politely ask if I may use Nakajima as a god of People in Rubber Suits.

"Detecting trace amounts of mental activity, possibly a dead weasel or a cartoon viewer."
Mar 17th 2018 at 6:01:18 PM

Are the Backdraft Group good to go? Any more suggestions for them?

The Backdraft Group Members , Unholy Organizations of Unsanctioned Battles (Backdraft Organization)
From left to right: Vega Obscura, Sarah, Major Polta, Dark Judge, Altail, Pierce, Fuma Team (Fuma, Ehga, Koga, Nebula), Captain Stigma Stoller, Captain Sanders, The Count

Strike Laser Claw!!
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand
Mar 17th 2018 at 6:20:33 PM

@ Magnus Force: Go ahead

Got a couple of ideas I wanna work on later. What do you think?

edited 17th Mar '18 6:39:53 PM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

Representing New Zealand, TV Tropes addict
fasoman1996 Angry pure boi from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Angry pure boi
Mar 17th 2018 at 6:48:11 PM

[up] I'm ok with both.

OW 2 hypemon
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
Mar 17th 2018 at 7:28:30 PM

Just asking again.

So what make a fanmade character not legible for ascension. Is awkwardnes alone the reason? Because that certainly wasn't the case for Glitchy's Mario.

Yeah, I'm not letting that go just yet. Aside from ascending with Glitchy (unless that's the only reason, and that's crock), what qualifies him that others don't?

Feedback Mode

Sorry, I'm realy stuck here.

Anataeus Vaya, Patron Saint of Programming Games
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: A hex grid with elemental/metal Reagents, manipulators, and glyphs.
  • Theme Song
  • Alignment: True Neutral
  • Portfolio: Insufferable Genius, From A Steampunk World, Alchemy as Mundane Utility, Alchemy Not Being Magic
  • Domain(s): Alchemy, Genius, Programming
  • Precursor: The Incredible Machine
  • Herald: Concordia Lem
  • High Priests: the SpaceChem reaction enigneer, the Infinifactory engineer
  • Followers: Opus Magnum players, Master Factory Computers
  • Allies:
  • Rivals:
  • Enemies:
  • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that have various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.) other than allies, rivals, or enemies.
  • Respected by/Respects:
  • Pitied by/Pities:
  • Opposed by/Opposes:
  • Conflicting Opinion:
  • Finding a representative for Programming Game was a hard task, given that either only the "programming" and machine where the work is done matters, or the player character is lacking in details. And then came Anataeus, protagonist of Opus Magnum, and who has actual characteristics. Anataeus is rather miffed that that was why he was invited to the Pantheon, but he's certainly not complaining.
    • Nobody knows for sure what had happened to him and Concordia after fleeing once the latter's vengeance on House Colvan was fulfilled, but it's known that the offer for ascension was given after that, which is why Anataeus accepted the position. His companion Concordia was then chosen as his herald and to sort of serve as his moral compass and pull him away from his work if need be.
  • Brought with him upon his ascension are his transmutation engine (and all its parts and how to make them), special dispensaries for all the basic alchemical atoms (fire, water, air, earth, lead, quicksilver), and all the glyphs and tools he needs for making the various devices he's created over the course of his story, which in turn are all brought as well.
  • Among those machines are those that create simple things like refined/purified gold (though he finds it trivial), face powder, waterproof sealants (for seafaring ship hulls), hangover cures potable water, fuel (for airships), (precision) machine oil, hair gel (at a noble's insistence; fragrances can be added by someone else), rocket propellants, explosive phials, armor filaments, courage potions actually, alcohol, cloth stain removers, sword alloys, invisible ink, (alchemical) jewels, voltaic coils, unstable compounds (for explosives), poison lipstick, etc. And then there are other wonders such as…
    • A health tonic for regulating irregular heartbeats.
    • A "stamina potion" for "a little boost at the necessary time". Apparently, it has something to do with reproduction and is for men's consumption.
    • Mist of incapacitation (a.k.a. knockout gas).
    • A water purifier, though the result is slightly sour and somewhat bitter.
    • A solvent for removing (document) seals, though it certainly has more potential uses than that.
    • Climbing rope fibers that are strong and resilient, yet light and easy to carry.
    • A warming tonic for keeping the body warm.
    • A "life-sensing potion", which can be used by stealthy folks for sensing heartbeats of patrollers in the form of pulses. It's advised to stay away from crowded areas while using it, though, but rest assured the drinker won't collapse into a quivering heap of nerves when that happens.
    • Very dark thread for easier shadow-sneaking. The House of Costumes (and some sectors in the House of Crime) make several orders for this product.
    • Golden thread. The House of Costumes make several orders for this, too.
    • Mist of hallucination, which probably works as advertised. It seems best appropriated for small spaces.
    • A "timing crystal". Only Anataeus knows how this should operate.
    • The "universal solvent", which he wistfully bemoaned would never be known in his world due to survival and their revenge against House Colvan hinging on no evidence of his work remaining taking precedence over his desire for recognition. Given what the Pantheon is, now it is known.
      • However, because of its potential to change the course of the war, and it's implied that Anataeus dissolved his original transmutation engine with that solvent, Anataeus knows he has to eventually pick a side lest he be kidnapped by one of the sides and be forced to make the solvent for them, or be otherwise removed for a long time (while death is not an issue, there are fates far worse). As such, he's decided that joining the GUAG is his best choice, and Concordia concurs.
  • Due to his alchemy being a delicate process, he's not willing to let just anybody use his transmutation engine without his supervision. That said, there is a simulation program—which Anataeus is still grasping at the subject of—available for "public" use and for his followers (which he's still getting used to having), which emulates all the features in Anataeus' transmutation engine. One just has to make sure that their device (with its parts and the instructions they input) can perform at least six cycles without screwing up before submitting their "blueprint" to Anataeus. After that, he may decide to have the device replicated for use, but without being customizable like his engine.
    • To his surprise, he ends up getting several thousands of submissions, and—barring inefficient models that just focus on getting the job done—he deduced that they're all classified into at least three different types; those that focus on production speed, those that are concerned with minimizing space, and those that are economical with machine parts. Thankfully, his followers volunteered to filter through them, and even improve on them.
    • Given that he didn't think one alchemist could change the world alone, and that he doubts one could get more than one alchemist to even agree on anything, Concordia had to convince Anataeus to teach them how to use the engine for real for purposes other than constructing devices after several replicas have been commissioned. Even though they don't actually understand the fundamentals of alchemy the way he does, they do know how to operate it. Besides, if things should go wrong, the Pantheon has the means to get him spares.
  • Aside from turning lead into gold, no work on any product is beneath him. Of course, gold isn't the only precious resource in the Pantheon, though he risks messing up the economy if he overdoes it.
  • Anataeus' interests lie solely on practicing his brand of alchemy, though Concordia's been getting him to go out more and learn all the other parts of life. And among the things he's learned doing so are the other forms of alchemy, namely that in the world of Fullmetal Alchemist. Right now, he's reserved his opinion of them to himself.
  • Can't really stand overly formal dinners given the stuffiness he had to endure in his time as Head Alchemist of House Van Tassen. Nor does he tolerate those who don't take warfare seriously or value property more than victory.
  • In his downtime, Anataeus sometimes plays a solitaire game called Sigmar's Garden for unwinding purposes. And to get around the issue of using alchemical proxies, Concordia commissioned actual marbles for the game.

Starlight Glimmer, Goddess of Former Main Villains
her Eq G human form 

If you can't get around it, go through it fast. Personas and Nanos, make 'em here
fasoman1996 Angry pure boi from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Angry pure boi
Mar 17th 2018 at 7:42:20 PM

[up] Ok, i just provided my reason why but if you insist, we should leave to a vote.

I personally i am against Rational Harry so no [tdown]

OW 2 hypemon
Mar 17th 2018 at 7:46:55 PM

[up][up]At this point, you're not getting anywhere.

Anyways, here's Balto draft.

Balto, God of Fictionalized Telling of Real-Life Stories
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: His paw on the snow
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Part-Dog, Part-Wolf, Outcasted for his other half, Agile and Sturdy Dog in Nome, Stubborn, Felt Ashamed of his Wolf heritage until he accepted it, Yellow-Eyed and Cunning
  • Domains: Wolf-Dog, Hero, Fictionalized Tellings
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies.
  • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals.
  • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes.
  • Balto was once outcasted by the people and dog of Nome, Alaska, until he helped save the town from a Diphtheria epidemic by helping the dog-sled in transporting the anti-toxins back to town. Though his tale is largely called into question, the fact remained that he was celebrated as a hero to the town of Nome.

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645
Mar 17th 2018 at 7:50:41 PM

Ration AL Harry@ I honestly don't care about the situation. But because it's getting annoying now,[tdown]

Gacha Is A Lie.
kingvideogames King me from SOMEWHERE down in Fullertown; don’t know where.. Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
King me
Mar 17th 2018 at 8:10:15 PM

@Nightelf, Okay, so here's what I'm more or less come to the conclusion on to how different Glitchy's Mario is to Rational!Harry, not taking account of the fact that he's with Glitchy.

1. Glitchy's Mario is in his 64-bit format, while the actual Mario looks more advanced. Rational Harry and Real Harry, as far as I can tell, look more or less the same.

2. Glitchy/Glitchy's Mario provide a source of income for a Machinima based product like the Red VS Blue deities, unlike Rational!Harry's which is stuck as a fanfic that was created for fun.

3. The title of the genre they came from also could either help or scare people away. Machinima sounds much more powerful and meaningful than "fanfic".

4. This is a personal theory so I may be 100% wrong, but we may just be more accepting of different video game versions of characters than film versions.

Also, and this is something more personal to you, but I do hope you learn and improve from it, but the way you're approaching it is terrible. Instead of demanding for equality in some personal crusade, try saying that you just want to ascend him and state which trope you think would fit and WHY you think they would be a good fit.

For now, with the way you're acting, it's going to be a [tdown] from me. Take a break, cool off your heels, and approach this with a level head.

edited 17th Mar '18 8:10:43 PM by kingvideogames

Indeed; this is going in the King Of All Cosmo’s Katamari Collection
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
Mar 17th 2018 at 9:05:39 PM

@king: *sigh* Thank you for providing a good rational argument. I now understand why. There's still a lot of stigma against fanfic characters, isn't there? They're only okay if they're OCs like Old Man Henderson and Lt. Mary Sue.

And yes, I really planned on making a rational (that's not meant to be a pun) argument for ascending Rationality!Harry, but I just wished for clearance to begin, because I figured if an idea's just going to be shut down no matter how I argue it, then what's the use of elaborating on it and wasting everyone's time (more)?

I chose that Harry for Rational Fic because his story is the Genre Codifier, and the only other options are Eliezer Yudkowsky (of which there are few tropes to work on) and Luminosity!Bella Swan (and everybody seems to hate the Twilight series enough to reject genuinely not-terrible side characters from it).

edited 18th Mar '18 3:02:55 AM by nightelf37

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RokuAlhazared The Emperor Of Darkness
The Emperor Of Darkness
Mar 17th 2018 at 9:25:58 PM

Vixen will go up Monday night. Anything else to add for Johnny Rico, or is he ready?

Furthermore, I move that Arya Stark should be banned from the House of Food (unless under supervision) due to baking Black Walder and Lothar Frey into meat pies. Granted that those two had it coming, but it's safer not to eat whatever Arya is offering...unless you're a cannibal and like that kind of thing.

John D. 'Johnny' Rico, Celestial Citizen of Overranked Soldiers
Colonel Rico
Rico, seen in Traitor of Mars.
  • Potential Houses: Military Ranks
  • Theme Song: Federal Network Hymn
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: The Mobile Infantry Flag. Alternatively, the Death From Above tattoo
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: A Dashing Argentinean From Buenos Aires Desperately Looking for a Purpose in Life, Impaled with Extreme Prejudice (he gets better)
  • Domains: Hispanic Men, Soldiers, Lost Loves, Bug Hunts
  • Commonality Connection: with Tarzan and Johnny Cage, surprising many, and Bruce Wayne/Batman, also surprising many
  • Not To Be Confused With: Nick Fury (the classic one) and Big Boss
  • Heralds: Private Ace Levy of the Roughnecks and Ratzass of the Marauders
  • Followers: The Roughnecks and the Marauder Team
  • Allies:
  • Rival/Worthy Opponent: Karena 'Lupo' LesProux of The Wolfpack
  • Enemies:
    • Primary Targets Include: General RAAM, the Xenonorphs, the Borg Queen, the Combine, Harbinger, the Graboids, Tyranids.
    • Other Enemies: General Shepherd
  • The news have been playing almost non-stop on the Federal Network. For the people of the United Citizen Federation, it's a good reason to celebrate. Colonel Johnny Rico, legendary war hero, has ascended to the Pantheon. And being the masters of propaganda, the Federation is milking this for all its worth.
    • Rico's ascension coincided with an Arachnid assault on the Pantheon, reminding Rico of the assault at Whiskey Outpost. It took Rico's Roughnecks and his Marauder Squad, along with Doomguy (wielding his BFG 9K), The Courier and the Lone Survivor (both wielding Fat Man launchers) to repel the attack. That's not counting Doomguy getting hopped up on a Berserker Pack and gleefully chewing the scenery as he ripped the bugs apart with his hands.
  • A brief background on the United Citizen Federation: at the end of the 20th century, Earth was locked in the time of violence and horror known simply as the Disorders. Then, a group of military veterans took control and stabilized the planet. Primarily, the government is split between two groups, citizens and civilians. Civilians are not discriminated against, and have some level of equal rights. Citizens are those who served in the Federation's military and are honorably discharged. Not only does Citizens have the right to vote, but also attend university on the Federation's dime. Despite its achievements, the Federation is nothing more than a fascist dystopia.
  • Liu Kang, upon seeing Rico, had commented that Rico reminded him of "a certain actor who is an annoying buffoon." Cassie Cage, for her part is considering a mentorship under Rico.
  • Did a double-take upon seeing Barbara Gordon. When asked about this incident, Rico replied, "She reminds me of Dizzy."
  • Rico's older incarnation is a spitting image of a younger Big Boss post-Operation Snake Eater. You can only tell the difference between the two due to Rico having more scars than Jack. The similarities isn't lost on Rico.
  • Friends with Damon Baird due to both men sharing nearly the same experiences growing up; both came from wealthy families, but while Baird was ordered to join the military or lose his inheritance, Rico's civilian parents were against him joining the military. And both men lost their parents; Rico when a Bug Meteor flattened Buenos Aires, Damon when the Locust Horde kicked off Emergence Day.
  • Karena LesProux of the Wolfpack sees Rico as something of a worthy opponent "He has proven to be very hard to kill. My kind of man," she muses. "Pity. He would've been at home with the Wolfpack."
  • Enemies with General Shepherd. Rico himself was once a general (before getting himself demoted to Colonel) and while his beloved Federation isn't perfect, even he is horrified with Shepherd's actions (killing allied soldiers and starting World War III). Shepherd can't call Rico a hypocrite since Rico owned up to his government's antics.
  • Hates the Xenonorphs, since not only do they remind him of those dammed Bugs, but their acid blood damages his Marauder power armor, and those damn things are expensive to replace. But the Graboids could be a serious problem, both for the Bugs and mankind.

The One Who Crosses The Sky In Flames
Donnietu from Stockton, CA Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Mar 17th 2018 at 9:52:15 PM

@Johnny Rico: [tup], but if I were you, I’d remove the Commonality Connection bullet point since it seems pointless.

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand
Mar 17th 2018 at 10:11:47 PM

[up][up] Wyman Manderly gonna sue somebody. The House of Flesh Eaters would enjoy the taste. Still, Asshole Victim or no it still comes off as an evil act of sorts

A Dragonball Super idea I've had for a couple months. I don't plan to work on this until a month after the series is done, but I would like to know if the trope is appropriate and/or the reasoning makes sense

  • Mule, God of Being Organic All Along -to work on April and afterwards. Mosco is the God of Destruction for Universe 3, a universe highly revolved around robots, cyborgs and technology. As such it comes as quite a surprise that he's actually Mule, a small imp-creature piloting the Mosco mech

[down] The trope is taken by Alessi. The fountain itself, I dunno

edited 18th Mar '18 1:41:01 AM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

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M1gamiTensei 2edgy4me from THE SINS NEVER DIE Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Mar 18th 2018 at 1:20:06 AM

Does anyone know any deities relating to the Fountain ot Youth? I'm working on a profile that's a bit of a Walking Spoiler, so I need the info

MrDoodleNoodle Yee from Westonzuela Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Mar 18th 2018 at 5:12:00 AM

[up][up] It's kinda weird that Unrobotic Reveal isn't listed in the Dragonball Super's page and that Mule isn't listed as an example in the Unrobotic Reveal page, but your reasoning seems legit so I'm ok with it.

[up] Off the top of my head I remember both Sector V and Ben encountered a Fountain of Youth in their adventures.

@Balto will probably dislike Gaston seeing as his rival Steele is pretty much Gaston in dog form. Also, Cruella might just take an interest in making a coat out of him, and Dr. XXX is disliked by all dogs in the Pantheon due to his experiments.

On a different note; does anybody know in which house Motive Rant should go?

edited 18th Mar '18 5:51:44 AM by MrDoodleNoodle

"We are contented... because he says we are."
Mar 18th 2018 at 7:05:18 AM

Maybe the guy wasn't treated as a robot, or maybe it wasn't presented as a robot. That's why it's not listed.

Gacha Is A Lie.

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