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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
      • Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
      • Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
      • For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
    • For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
    • Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "[tup]" or "[tdown]".
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
    • You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
    • Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
    • Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity: God X, God/Goddess/Deity of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.

    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
      • OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles: Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles: The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM

nonamedude The Blacker Swordsman from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
worldofdrakan Since: Jul, 2016
#109452: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:09:04 AM

I think that Misuzu could be moved to Reworking Gods before Purgatory gets deleted. I feel like she could probably be reworked to have Harsher in Hindsight. I wouldn't be able to do it myself, though, since I know nothing about her source material.

Permission to move her?

edited 6th Jan '18 11:11:08 AM by worldofdrakan

RonnieR15 Ronnie from Earth Since: May, 2013
Ronnie
#109453: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:16:29 AM

@ Whirl RX: I thought that Norse Mythology Thor and Marvel Thor were a Composite Character in the Pantheon.

edited 6th Jan '18 11:16:52 AM by RonnieR15

wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#109455: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:27:08 AM

@World Do it.

You know that game called VR Chat that's super popular this day.

I somewhat see the pantheon like that sometimes, especially how silly it can get.

Uni cat
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#109456: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:33:14 AM

@ wootzits: I think at least Lisa, Inuyasha and Father are salvagable. I wonder if there's anything that'd work for Mara Jade. Whirl said Lisa can have Intelligence Equals Isolation and Inuyasha Half-Breed Discrimination

@ Master Hero: Those ideas are [tup]

worldofdrakan Since: Jul, 2016
#109457: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:36:43 AM

Misuzu has been moved from Purgatory to Reworking Gods, and updated with what will (hopefully) be her future title.

[down] At this point, I at least think that Purgatory can be deleted. The only profile in there has already been moved, after all.

edited 6th Jan '18 12:15:49 PM by worldofdrakan

wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#109458: Jan 6th 2018 at 12:11:59 PM

I have gotten rid of all the Purgatory wicks. May I have the go-ahead to cutlist it?

[up]I've added it to the cutlist.

edited 6th Jan '18 12:18:34 PM by wootzits

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#109459: Jan 6th 2018 at 12:23:00 PM

  • Sub-house ideas
    • Costumes: Do you think Style needs to be split? If so, how? Also, I am wondering if Eyewear could be a thing. Mizerous suggests Style be separated into regular outfits and special clothing
    • Royalty: I feel it might work with a fifth house. Should I split Heirs into Princes and Princesses? If not what other idea for a fifth house should I use?

TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#109460: Jan 6th 2018 at 1:37:02 PM

Daji, Goddess of Sadistic Torture (Su Da Ji, The Thousand-Year-Old Vixen, Millennium Fox, The Nine-Tailed Fox)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/250px_skinart_daji_default.jpg
  • Lesser Goddess
  • Symbol: The Paolao
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Huli jing, Corrupting Emepror Zhou, Really Likes Torturing People, Killed the Real Daji for Her Guise, The Hedonist, Shapeshifting/Demonic Possession (or both)
  • Domains: Foxes, Torture, Revenge, Evil
  • Allies: SCP-953
  • Enemies: Ahri, Dougen
  • Heralds: Pipa Jing and Jiutou Zhiji Jing
  • Daji was known as the favourite consort of Emperor Zhou of Shang. Well, the human named that. However, the one more well known by that name is the thousand-year-old huli jing who was tasked by goddess Nuwa to ruin Emepror Zhou's life and bring his rule to end for his lust forwards her. She did it by killing and possessing the real Daji and playing her role as Zhou's concubine to corrupt him while enjoying the privileges to appeal her sadistic desires and curiosities.
  • Daji thrives on torturing people. Partly out of pure sadism and partly because she is interested on figuring things out. She would have people dissected or something similar just because she is intrigued how humans work. She also designed and invented multiple torture methods, such as the Paolao, a bronze cylinder covered in oil, heated and placed over charcoal with the subject made to walk on it until they would slip and fall down, causing them to burn to dead. Other inventions of hers includes a pit full of spiders and snakes, and an elaborate set-up to get couples drunk and fed, after which selected few would be killed and turn into food for Daji to enjoy.
  • One met up with SCP-953, another evil fox spirit. At first things went well, but then ironically, SCP-953 mistakenly called Daji a kuhimo, which lead Daji to rant about the fact that she is huli jing and the difference between them and other fox spirits, like how they are both good and evil and they mainly need masculine energy to survive (though they also eat human meat). But then she admitted that the whole rant was just a joke even if she was saying the truth, so all's cool.
  • Her temple is less of a temple and more of a large Chinese-styled palace like the ones she used to live. It is notably almost always under construction, mainly the outside areas, as she always has new ideas for torture methods.
  • Her fate in the mortal realm is bit of a mystery. Some say that she was exorcised by Jiang Ziya and eventually died, possibly as a punishment by Nuwa. Some say that she managed to escape her fate during the fall of Shang dynasty. Some say that she was exorcised but survived, leading her to appear in history couple of times before her demise under the identity of Tamamo-no-Mae.
  • One time, Dougen approached her in an attempt to in his own words "reinvigorate" Orochi. Turns out that she has a rather liking for the giant snake and started helping him. However, she soon discovered that the Orochi he was talking about was completely different from the one she was familiar with, and slashed out at him. He ultimately escaped scot free, but Daji has plans to turn him into cinder inside a giant toaster.
    • On similar note, she doesn't have any plans to affiliate herself with Leopold Goenitz and his associated as she sees him Orochi to be some tree-loving hippie and not nearly as fun as Orochi should be.

Only sometimes posts
MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
#109461: Jan 6th 2018 at 3:22:52 PM

@ Clovis: If Eyewear became a subhouse, it would only include people with glasses or googles; am I right?

@ TPPR: Daji would be friends with Desaad and enemies with Jack Bauer for their differing views on torture.

If deities from The Fallen were to ascend to the Pantheon proper, would their time in the Fallen be referenced or we're just gonna pretend it never happened?

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#109462: Jan 6th 2018 at 3:29:35 PM

@Master: I personally wouldn't reference The Fallen in the proper deity profiles.

Speaking of such, I did say some time ago that I'd rework Full Frontal out of that place for Straw Nihilist. I'm more inclined to start it from scratch instead of using the old profile as a template.

Looking at Reworking Gods, it may be that time again to take some profiles and put them in sandboxes or remove profiles that no one is interested in reworking. I've mentioned in the past that I'm up for reworking Moby Dick for Animal Nemesis.

Also, can I delete The Catachan Devil? I don't think anyone is going to rework it and I've talked earlier about giving Death World to an actual domain.

edited 6th Jan '18 3:30:19 PM by r-lock256

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#109463: Jan 6th 2018 at 3:35:18 PM

@Lock Delete it.

I can rework Tanya.

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wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#109464: Jan 6th 2018 at 3:38:52 PM

We could easily delete Princess Marie-Ange's profile from Reworking Gods given that Whirl is working on the Doki Doki Precure group profile that technically includes her. Also Parker Lewis because I have a feeling nobody cares about him.

edited 6th Jan '18 3:39:15 PM by wootzits

r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#109465: Jan 6th 2018 at 4:13:59 PM

And thus, The Catachan Devil has been deleted.

So, a bit of a primer on some profiles from Reworking Gods:

  • Rufus & Bob: I think Patrick is finished with their profile and it should be up at some point
  • Tanya: Faso is willing to rework her.
  • Greebo: No one has said anything about him yet.
  • Chibiterasu: Don't know if anyone here is familiar with Okamiden
  • Nightmare: I think Patrick said he wanted to rework him.
  • Moby Dick: A rework I'm willing to handle.
  • Mikuru Asahina: There might have been talk about combing her with the rest of the SOS Club for School Clubs Are Serious Business or something. At this point, if no one here is familiar with Haruhi Suzumiya, it's pretty much pointless for me to talk about potential reworks regarding them.
  • Oerba Yun Fang: Not sure if someone knows FFXIII to update her.
  • Ultima & Lucavi: Magnum says they're a good example of Path of Inspiration, but if no rework is going to come of it, then it'll likely be deleted.
  • Lina Inverse: I recall SomeoneElse making some modifications to that profile. I wonder if they're interested in completing that rework proper.
  • Seth Macfarlane: Don't know if someone wants to update him.
  • Rukia Kuchiki & Uryu Ishida: Don't know what tropes were proposed for them and I don't know if there's an active contributor who wants to take a shot at reworking them.

As said earlier, wootzits said that Princess Marie-Ange and Parker Lewis can be deleted from that page. Also, I think Dr. Cox's profile is finished, but I don't know if the update is actually up.

In a short timeframe, I'll delete some of the profiles from that page and move some to the appropriate sandbox depending on if others have a say on it (which I'm not really sure if others will say something about all this).

edited 6th Jan '18 4:15:16 PM by r-lock256

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#109466: Jan 6th 2018 at 4:22:57 PM

I'll take Chibiterasu. I'll just make time to watch an Okamiden LP or just look through content in the TV Tropes pages.

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
TimeLordVictorious Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again from the Devil May Cry series Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again
#109467: Jan 6th 2018 at 5:18:41 PM

Standard repost of Amara and the Nestene Consciousness. I added Master Hero's suggestions to Amara, so the fourth draft for her and the second draft for the Nestene. I am now accepting more approvals, though feedback would still be welcome.

[tup]s so far (Amara): Master Hero, Clovis (Date of ascension is now 1/12/18)

Amara, The Anti-Goddess (The Darkness, Aunty Amara, the Nothingness)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/amarathedarkness.jpg

[tup]s so far (Nestene): Master Hero, Clovis (Date of ascension is now 1/13/18)

The Nestene Consciousness, the Unholy Controller of Murderous Mannequins

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/angry_nestene_consciousness_rose.jpg

edited 6th Jan '18 11:11:20 PM by TimeLordVictorious

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nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#109468: Jan 6th 2018 at 6:04:45 PM

@The Fallen: Here are my thoughts.

Tiny Tyrannical Girl doesn't seem to be a shit quality trope. So either EEE!Sarah comes back or another candidate takes the title from her.

Maybe Buffyverse!Spike and Ted Mosby can come back. Big maybe, mind you.

I think The Load can be a non-Fallen-worthy trope as it can be portrayed non-negatively, though Ben Paul as its representative probably isn't the best idea anymore. He's more of an unwitting Millstone to me, anyway.

edited 6th Jan '18 6:09:46 PM by nightelf37

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wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#109469: Jan 6th 2018 at 6:22:33 PM

@Victorious: Don't link deities to their Houses in flavor texts if they're already linked in the relationships section.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#109470: Jan 6th 2018 at 6:48:05 PM

Is there anything else for the Point Man?

The Point Man, God of Bullet Time (The New Guy, Buddy, Bad Motherfucker)

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  • Potential House: Abilities
  • Lesser God, sometimes Intermediate
  • Symbol: His old F.E.A.R. uniform
  • Alignment: True Neutral, leaning towards Chaotic Good
  • Portfolio: Tense relationship with his brother Paxton Fettel, Death Glare, Only known as the Point Man, Abused because of being weaker than his brother, Never Says a Word, Implacable Man, Lightning Bruiser, Made of Iron, One-Man Army, The Un-Favourite, Alma's first child
  • Domains: Reflexes, Guns, Soldiers, Dark Pasts, Experiments
  • Allies: Gordon Freeman, Link, Samurai Jack, James Ramirez, Master Chief, Adrian Shephard, Max Payne, Neo, The Ghostbusters, Luigi, Simon Henriksson
  • Enemies: The Child Abuse Supporters, Dark Danny, The Slenderman, Alex Mercer
  • Acquiantanced with: Wander, The Human Child, Samantha Maxis, Erma Williams
  • Distrust: The SCP Foundation
  • Special Relationships: Alma Wade (His mother)
  • Known simply as the Point Man, this strange man was one of the newer recruits of F.E.A.R., who were tasked with the mission to hunt down Paxton Fettel after he initiated an uprising with the replica soldiers of Armachan Technological Corporation. But the point man's role was more important than that when Alma Wade got involved, who was constantly stalking him whenever he went. In truth, he turned to be Alma's first son, born for the sake of Project Origin to test his capabilities as a powerful psychic like his mother was. Needless to say, the Point Man's life wasn't all that cheerful either and the reason he doesn't remember anything is because it's been erased from his memory.
  • The reason he found the pantheon are a little hard to explain. He didn't exactly ascend but lured into the pantheon by unknown entity to him, who he mistakenly assumed to be his brother Paxton Fettel. It actually turned out to be Dark Danny, who provoked the Point Man into coming after him to see if he was as good as the rumors about him were. The actual reason for that? Alma asked him to do it, and after hearing of the news that her child has ascended he wasted no time and came to see him before anything bad happened to him. It speaks volumes of the appreciation she has for her son when Alma of all people stops a fight
  • Quickly settled down with the title of Bullet Time, given his impressive reflexes and speed which are implied to come from his Psychic Powers. He also managed to befriend Max Payne who also happens to have both super reflexes and a Dark and Troubled Past.
    • Max wasn't the only one with super reflexes though. Samurai Jack and Neo both were impressed by the Point Man's ability and a friendly spar occured between the three. They remain on good terms.
  • He doesn't this very well, but he remembers that he was treated like garbage when he was a child and it's rumored that the reason of why he is such an effective soldier is because of him channeling that hatred into his enemies. He doesn't hide the fact that he wants to brutally kill all the Abusive Parents in the pantheon but he will limit himself with the most heinous ones, primarely the Child Abuse Supporters.
  • The Point Man never utters a words, not even in the most intense moments. Some say that because of the experimentation and abuse he underwent in the past he might have become mute as a result. That's why he ended up befriending a few people who also don't talk, those being Gordon Freeman, Link and soldiers like Adrian Shepard and James Ramirez, who sympathize with his situation of being the guy who gets things done for their team. In the case of Gordon, he heard about incident involving his mother where Gordon was transported to the almaverse and it wasn't pretty, so he feel obliged to apologize on her behalf, even if she doesn't want to.
  • F.E.A.R. as a team was specialized in dealing with the supernatural, and while the Point Man is no longer a part of it, he nevertheless is experienced enough to deal with the pantheon's paranormal events. That's why he keeps a formal relation towards the Ghostbusters and Luigi, since he has had his fair share of encounters with ghosts. Not to mention the fact that they have been trying to deal with Alma and he would be perfect addition to the team if his mother ever goes on a rampage again.
  • Strangely enough, he never though that of all the people in the pantheon that would sympathize with him the most with him was a depressed teenager. Simon understand the toll he underwent knowing that him being the child of a psychic must be harsh while the Point Man felt strangely brotherly to simon given his own fragile mind reminding him of Alma's. The Point Man also once tried to venture into Simon's book world, apparently it's not that different from the Almaverse.
  • The topic of Alma is always a heated one considering there is a special group of people that want to help her. So when they heard that one of Alma's son was present in the Pantheon, they wasted no time in meeting him. Wander and the Human Child have told him that they made some significant progress in calming down Alma, the key player being Erma whose similarities made Alma calm down a little and be protective of her. The three have also tried to involve the Point Man into their little "Therapy Session" since they believe he would the final piece they need to finally calm Alma down. He is hesitant to say the least, his mother was never the most normal person around and he himself has his fair share of issues but he is willing to try.
    • After a few sessions with Wander, Frisk, Erma and the Point Man, Alma has shown some incredible progress, her desire for destruction toned down a lot and even shown some faint smiles when she sees her son. But she has demanded the four that in order to be at peace she needs to see a special person again, that being Paxton Fettel, her other son.
  • The Point Man, given his past, has a hard time trusting secretive organizations one of those being the SCP Foundation. One because the poor treatment he received in the past and the other because the SCP Foundation have some plans regarding Alma and how to contain her so she won't cause trouble again. The Point Man didn't take lightly to the latter considering that when they intended to terminate him things went ugly when the task force they sent after him was utterly annihilated by the the Point Man alone, so they are considering other less violent options.
  • Unlike Alma, the Point Man knows fully well that Alex Mercer is up to no good and that he intends to do something horrible to Alma whenever he gets the chance to find her physical body. Their confrontation is at a stalemate, mostly because the Point Man doesn't have viable means to combat Mercer while the latter won't try to harm the Point Man else Alma would surely find a way to kill him for good.

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#109471: Jan 6th 2018 at 7:13:55 PM

[up][tup]

I'm going to add new info on some of the Rwby characters next week after the last episode if that's ok.

edited 6th Jan '18 7:14:57 PM by WhirlRX

Patrickthekid Since: Sep, 2015
#109473: Jan 6th 2018 at 7:36:25 PM

Vir Gotto, the God who Grew a Spine (Flounder IN SPACE!)

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  • Potential House: Character Development
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: The Centauri Symbol
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: Originally a Plucky Comic Relief with Hidden Depths, Adorkable, Can't Hold His Liquor, Token Good Teammate, The Conscience, Badass Bureaucrat, ultimately The Kingslayer and The Emperor afterwards.
  • Domains: Law Good, Nobility
  • Allies: Kosh, Lorien, Susan Ivanova, John Sheridan, Jeffrey Sinclair, Amy Rose, Jiminy Cricket
  • Opposed by: Lord Djibril
  • Odd Friendship: Tyrion Lannister
  • Admired by: Piglet
  • If someone from 20 years ago would say that Vir Gotto would be among the most revered bureaucrats in the Pantheon, they would have been laughed out of the building. And with good reason; Cottohe was introduced as a Plucky Comic Relief to the heroes. He was even compared to Flounder. Yet with time, he received one of the most prolific Character Development in the Pantheon. By the time his story ended, he has taken the throne for himself, free of any outside influence. Sure he had help from the many gods from his world currently residing beside him, but much of it was his doing. Not bad for a person who got the job by accident.John Sheridan felt obliged to bring him over to the Pantheon as thanks.
  • Received a hero's welcome from those of his friends that arrived before him. He was particularly happy to see Sheridan and Sinclair again after their disappearances in his world. They were glad to hear that Cotto's reign has been going smoothly. With that said, they are all wary in the event that the Shadows make their way into the Pantheon.
  • To be fair, Tyrion didn't think much of Vir Cotto. Then again, most people overlook the dwarf that has kept the Lannisters intact for most of his life. When he did meet Cotto, he was surprised at his composure as king. Tyrion offered a drink and the two fell into a deep conversation about including how he even got the job in the first place.
  • Early on, Vir Cotto has struggled to justify the actions of his morally ambiguous king Londo Mollari. He has more than often tried to steer them towards more morally tenable acts. It has certainly made him a Morality Pet in their journeys, something Amy Rose is all too familiar with. Amy has proven that such characters aren't spineless wimps, capable of slamming people with her hammer if need be. She's grateful to see another of her kind in the Pantheon.
    • One can also call him The Conscience to his group. Jiminy Cricket was initially unimpressed, as Londo hardly ever listened to him. But as time went on, the God of Consciences appreciated how Cotto handled the situation in the end.
  • While Cotto lays claim to much of their rank, most cowards secretly hope to grow out of their shell and become better people. To Piglet, this would mean a likely loss of rank. Yet he is fine with those who are able to overcome their fear.
    • That is not the case for Lord Djibril. He holds a bit of jealousy for those who leave his temple after becoming more than DIrty Cowardss. He even tried to cause a diplomatic row by starting a dispute between the Emperor of Mankind and the subhouse of Aliens. Not only did Vir Cotto managed to smooth things out between the two factions, he even traced the cause back to Lord Djibril. The head of LOGOS responded by strangling the man, but enough heroes came to his aid to scare him off.

Angelina Love and Velvet Sky, Dual Goddesses of Superior Beauty (The Beautiful People; Love: Lauren Williams, Angel Williams; Sky: Jamie Lynn Szantyr, Talia Madison)

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Velvet Sky (left) and Angelina Love (right), the founding members of the Beautiful People.
  • Theme Song: Angel on my Shoulder.
  • Lesser Goddesses
  • Symbol: The Beautiful People Logo.
  • Alignment: Varies between Neutral Good (as Faces) and Neutral Evil (as Heels)
  • Portfolio: Being the Self-Proclaimed Beautiful People, Action Women Who Provide Fanservice, Power Stables With Frequent Reunious, "Let the pigeons loose!", Constantly Switching Sides, Baring Midriffs, Dumb Blondes, Dye Hard, Evil Is Sexy (as Heels).
  • Allies: Ric Flair
  • Rivals: Mai Shiranui,
  • Enemies: Zangief, Rainbow Mika, Andre the Giant, King II, Jaycee, Abigail, Poison
  • Admires: Shawn Michaels (Love only).
  • Conflicting Opinion: Reika Aoki/Cure Beauty (she considers their brand of beauty as shallow).
  • Herald: Madison Rayne (sometimes a recurrent third member).
  • Straight from the halls of TNA (a rare feat for two gods to be from there), Angelina and Velvet strutted their way on a mission: making their temple the most gorgeous of all the Pantheon. Safe to say, most would agree that they have succeeded. Initially starting off as heels, the two later branched off to spread their beauty to all walks of life. As such, both good and evil factions interact with each other with similar goals. They merely squabble on how to do so with their patrons leaning towards each other on a whim.
  • Few people have a more tumultuous relationship with their herald. Madison Rayne was one of their first true fans of the group and after a nasty bit of hazing, they accepted her offer. While she undoubtedly helped the duo win, she was just as responsible for their defeats. It got to a point where they dumped her for costing them the title. Things got more convoluted from there, from Madison feuding with them to Madison joining Velvet as the new Beautiful People with Love on the outside. They at least managed to end their careers in sync, but it wasn't enough for Madison to gain full membership. Regardless, Madison Rayne is satisfied with her current position.
  • One of their first acts was to improve the looks of the Wrestling Division. Lamenting the lack of beautiful wrestlers in the Pantheon, they have filed petitions to bring in more sexy fellows into the Pantheon. Zangief and R. Mika were the first to object, stating that one's appearance shouldn't disqualify one from ascending. Angelina thought that was rich coming from the burly Russian. After that, tag team matches between the two have amassed huge crowds.
    • Among the most prominent dissenters are Andre the Giant and his kind. None of them really try too look good, knowing that their size is more than enough to squash any competition. Fights between them are often, though the Beautiful People make sure to bring an entourage of followers to even the playing field.
    • It is a poorly kept secret that Velvet Sky has a crush on the Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels. As usual, Shawn has been playing hard-to-get as to keep up with the name sake. Sky hopes to get him to change his mind regardless.
  • They have been impressive with how well the Nature Boy has taken care of himself, stating that he has been able to maintain his beauty despite being a Ring Oldies. As he has no qualms towards heels, he has since latched onto them. The two are more than happy than to play interference to help him get wins.
  • Their arrival may have set off a turf war with one of the most prominent beauties in the Pantheon. As the Goddess of Fanservice, Mai has been the object of desire by many in the Pantheon. The Beautiful People wanted to change that, making sure that they are the most admired people in the Pantheon. Things quickly got out of hand to the point that scuffles between the group and Mai's Women's Team are frequent.
  • Most people were impressed that Julia Change would broaden her horizons by becoming the wrestling perona known as Jaycee. Unfortunately, her previous job as a scientist was something that was exploited by the Beautiful People. Calling her a hopeless nerd, they claim that she doesn't have what it takes to hang with the more seasoned wrestlers. Luckily for her, she has the backing of her old friend King. Regardless of their rivalry, the tag matches have been stellar.
  • There has been feud over whether Love and Sky or Poison are the sexiest people in wrestling. When they confronted her, she merely smiled as her new prospect Abigail wiped the floor with them. This type of fight would require them to get their hands dirty, something the two have been hesitant to do.

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#109474: Jan 6th 2018 at 7:51:36 PM

@Angelina Love and Velvet Sky: What are their Domains again?

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