Trope Pantheons Discussion

Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!

Shocking Gun!

#85126: Dec 20th 2016 at 3:34:24 AM

Yeah, this is what I mean by "underlining" things. It's not like people don't see through Vishkar's image. It's just that it is hard to really help her partly due of Vishkar itself and her own ideals like seeing GUAG being disorganized. Though I did want to balance it out with To Be Lawful or Good by being met with the extreme side of Law and refusing to go that far.

I have said that she is stuck in Noble Top Enforcer hell where it is hard for her to be on one side or another, and I don't want things to be like "she is on this side and that's final". Especially with the still open-ended nature of the Overwatch story. Where does her story go? What will they show of Vishkar? None of us knows.

edited 20th Dec '16 3:36:49 AM by TPPR10

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009

#85127: Dec 20th 2016 at 4:03:14 AM

@Whirl RX: Hard to say, since Thorn has never interacted with christmas before. I think being the Halloween counterpart is good enough as far as flavor text goes.

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#85128: Dec 20th 2016 at 4:42:22 AM

If Symmetra going to be a hard character to pin point in the pantheon, maybe it's best not to do s profile of her. Less we repeat Yuno thing.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#85129: Dec 20th 2016 at 4:51:17 AM

I only want for Symmetra that we keep personal interpretations out of the profile and the whole "Talon is better than Vishkar" too.

Uni cat

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#85130: Dec 20th 2016 at 5:05:21 AM

Talon is better then Vishkar?

Hey, remember when they mind raep a woman to kill her husband and force her to wear fanservice outfits?

ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity

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#85131: Dec 20th 2016 at 5:09:27 AM

Honestly, it's not as bad as the Yuno stuff. Thing is, Symmetra's problem is more like Litchi. By herself, she's actually a decent woman. The problem is that she's alongside Vishkar, who's by now considered Obviously Evil and championing Light Is Not Good. People can easily just not see that she's actually a Noble Top Enforcer but instead a fanatic for a corrupt company who champions blind obedience. Exactly what Lucio, champion of the downtrodden, thinks of her. Lucio is a good guy, yes, but that mindset is kind of unhealthy, like "You want to get sympathized? Then GTFO of that corrupt company, or else No Sympathy."

In comparison with Talon, let's just remember this: Can Vishkar erect the trope Evil Is Cool? Because Talon totally can with Reaper, Widowmaker and Sombra. When I said Talon is 'better' than Vishkar, it's not about true morality, but 'better accepted'. And those better accepted often gets a better edge on fandom morality perception.

The worst that can happen? Not extreme edit war like the Toony/Yuno incident... but probably another Morality Civil War.

Also, what TPPR didn't mention is that even on the lore itself, Symmetra is already having doubts about Vishkar's true intentions. I would probably modify it that she's just putting up a front of 'Vishkar fanatic/promotor', including her feud with Lucio, but behind the scenes, only seen by a few, she's trying to process about the true intention of Vishkar and act on her own.

Ah that. It's the kind of thing that happens in fandom that if you're honest in your villainy, you're so much better than the guy who commits villainy (terrorism) while lying about it. That's kind of what happens. Still, I'll try to get those stuffs Faso mentioned out of the profile, promise. Fandom is weird and evil. Far more satanic than how they claim Mei is.

And aside of Litchi, there's another character that's more similar with Symmetra in terms of "Normally good person, but associated with bad hypocritical liars that it is often rendered moot point": Leona. I don't think I see anyone ever giving their vouch to the Solari sect after the Lunari genocide and then not owing up to it and rejecting everything but themselves.

edited 20th Dec '16 5:44:20 AM by ChrisX

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!

Shocking Gun!

#85132: Dec 20th 2016 at 5:47:24 AM

Also remember that even if Symmetra has any doubts, she still believes what she does (or she leads herself to believe) that what she does is for the greater good. It is less "Am I doing the right thing?" and more "Is this truly the best for everyone?". That is, at least, how I intrepid it.

edited 20th Dec '16 5:48:17 AM by TPPR10

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity

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#85133: Dec 20th 2016 at 6:16:00 AM

That is why probably it'd be for the best if in the Pantheon she only shows loyalty to Vishkar on the front, in the backstage, she is trying to process the doubts she had. That way, we get a fair portrayal for both: The portrayal that she truly is the Noble Top Enforcer who's not exactly in line with her boss' corrupt methods, and the front image of 'blind obedience Vishkar fanatic' that seems more in-line with how Lucio and 'the downtrodden' sees her.

Lemme try to have my interpretation on that and we'll see how it goes from there, OK?

By the way, it's not intrepid... it's interpret. Intrepid is more connected to reporters who's more likely to use snide insinuations/disingenuous assertions/tabloid journalism and getting punched in the face.

The second problem is... it's not so much about Symmetra, but would the Pantheon do a 'severe limiting' of Vishkar activities and how would she react if that was to happen? Because remember, the Pantheon forces (or at least the GUAG) felt more like something bigger than Overwatch that knows its shady activities (the Overwatch would need proofs to present a case against Vishkar. The GUAG/Pantheon? Send in Phoenix Wright to do that, and he'll find the evidences easily), and will more likely crush Vishkar under its thumb if it steps out of line, they can't just 'force' things up like they did to the common people at Rio.

edited 20th Dec '16 6:29:19 AM by ChrisX

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#85134: Dec 20th 2016 at 6:53:43 AM

Yo is this guy ready to ascend? I can't add much to be honest.

Already got 2

King Hippo, God of Corpulent Kings

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/king_hippo.jpg

Potential House: Physical Appearance and Royalty
Lesser God
Symbol: His crown
Theme Song: His rendition of the Punch-Out! theme
Alignment: True Neutral (Sometimes Neutral Evil)
Portfolio: Ambiguously Human, Attack Its Weakpoint, Big Eater, Gonk, Mighty Glacier, Stout Strength, The Unintelligible, Wild Samoan
Domains: Royalty, Big Size, Food, Islands, Bosses.
Allies: Lord Fredrik, Mother Brain, The Rock, The Usos
Rivals:
- Boxers: All ascended boxers from the W.V.B.A., Ippo Makunouchi, Joe Yabuki, Dudley, Balrog
- Other rivals: All Big Eaters in the pantheon, especially Kirby and King Dedede, Rufus and Bob, Edmond Honda
Enemies: Pit, Megaman, Stitches
On good terms with: Lilo and Stitch
King Hippo is the ruler of the Hippo islands, a place located in the South Pacific where he spends his day eating large amounts of food and sleeping. He is also a boxer, and feared because of his tremendous size and strength. Because of his large size, King Hippo easily took the title for himself.
While Hippo is a really tough opponent, he has a huge weakpoint that holds him back. If you hit him in the mouth when he opens it his pants will fall down and then you can lay down a beating on him. And if he falls he is not getting back up.
- Sometimes carries a manhole on his belly to avoid being hit. More often than not, it tends to fall off and hurt him.
Many wonder if he is actually a human being or just an actual Hippo, given that he doesn't talk outside of grunts and roars.
His title used to belong to Lord Fredrik, until the latter dropped it and got a new one, allowing Hippo to get a spot. They seem to be on really good terms, especially when DK himself has fought in W.V.B.A. as well. making Fredrik take interest in sabotaging one of his matches.
Because of his Samoan descent, King Hippo ended up befriending the Rock and the Usos. While he doesn't quite wrestle, he is interested in taking part
Hippo can be usually found in the House of Food eating whatever he likes. He is also a frequent participant of the Gourmet Race, but he has faced a though competition there. He especially has some sort of rivalry with Kirby and King Dedede.
Because of his background, he was interested in meeting fellow islanders just like him. He seems to get along with Lilo and Stitch, and even lost a boxing match to the latter once.
Sometimes, King Hippo has been claimed to be an evil boxer in another realm and a henchman of Mother Brain no less. While he really doesn't remember all that well, he doesn't get along very well with Megamen and Pit.
- He has a somewhat normal relationship with Mother Brain, but they tend to ignore each other most of the time.
Hippo wants to become the strongest fat fighter in the pantheon and that's why he has decided to challenge others like E. Honda, Rufus and Bob to see who is the best.
- However, he is not very fond of Stitches. Besides the abomination trying to be friends with the King, he doesn't like that he keeps eating his food and leaving a mess in his temple.
Whatever you do, don't touch his crown. You might make him angry and he will promply punish you.

Uni cat

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!

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#85135: Dec 20th 2016 at 6:58:12 AM

Maybe this is just me, but I feel like even without Vishkar, Symmetra wouldn't be precisely the most heroic of people. In the sense that she would still be adamant about order and rules. A thief is a thief, no matter how you slice it, so she wouldn't really be approval of Lúcio. To me, she is a Noble Top Enforcer because she might not know Vishkar's end game, but she still falls into the line on what they promote.

As for 'severely limiting' Vishkar... well, what about all of the other possible corrupt corporations in the Pantheon?

edited 20th Dec '16 6:58:55 AM by TPPR10

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#85136: Dec 20th 2016 at 7:12:59 AM

Well it makes sense. But depending on how you look at it, Symmetra really wants to help people in a way she wanted. However, due to indoctrination by Vishkar (kidnap her from young age, groom her to be their ace), she ended up believing that Vishkar is in line with her thought so she had no problems with promoting them. By that, she would still be doing her best to help people in the ways she know of, but by enforcing Order. Remember, order doesn't always come from Vishkar even in that verse, Overwatch IS an example of order. Just not the kind of order that falls in line with Symmetra's personal order.

I'm not saying that she shouldn't promote Vishkar here, but we shouldn't portray her as a fanatic just because she works with Vishkar. Just seeing from Lucio's goggles (blind obedient fanatic) doesn't portray the complete picture

If you slice it like that, Symmetra wouldn't approve Robin Hood either. He's the guy who popularized "Steal from rich bastards, give to the downtrodden" thing after all.

Well Vishkar might be a start about 'limiting the corrupt'. Hell, I think we kinda did that already, just not with an organization, but with an individual: Lady Tremaine. Or would you rather leave them be, oppressing others? Well, at least that would give the likes of Robin Hood a job...

... Oh! Right. Faso, here's your

edited 20th Dec '16 7:37:47 AM by ChrisX

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#85137: Dec 20th 2016 at 7:21:56 AM

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#85138: Dec 20th 2016 at 7:40:24 AM

My point with Vishkar is that the Pantheon makes a deal with them, but not with every other corporation with actual bad intentions? Or are they dealt with day-to-day basics? I don't know.

Honestly, maybe we shouldn't add stuff about things what might or might not happen in canon. Add stuff what we know and not try to put in any "what if?". Like your suggestions her trying to uncover the truth about Vishkar. That is not what she is doing as far as the canon is concerned. She has her questions, but she serves Vishkar for a better world.

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#85139: Dec 20th 2016 at 7:40:58 AM

@Hippo:

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#85140: Dec 20th 2016 at 7:41:25 AM

Anything else I should add for Vincent? I have 3 for him and it is the 1st Day.

Vincent Brooks, The God Who Climbs To Survive (Man Drinking Alone, The Man of Legends)

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Quasideity (Demigod in his Nightmares, Greater God in the True Cheater Ending)
Symbol: Pillow and pink polka-dot boxer
Theme Song: Also Sprach Brooks
Alignment: True Neutral (remains so or shifts to Neutral Good in the Neutral/Freedom Ending, shifts to Lawful Good at the Commitment Ending, and shifts to Chaotic Neutral at the Cheater Ending)
Portfolio: The Everyman, Wears Underwear in His Nightmare, Jaw Drops Much of His Life, Determined to Survive in his Nightmare, Choice of Commitment or Freedom, Terrible Liar, Nice Guy, Grew a Spine, Large Ham, Helping Others With The Same Struggle As He, Happily Married (potentially)
- True Cheater Ending: Taking Over The Netherworld, Evil Overlord, Power is Sexy, Sex God
Domains: Climbing, Survival, Relationship
Allies: Ampharos, Homer Simpson, Moe, Harth Stonebrew, Ysera, Ni GHTS
Enemies: Bane
Cautious Around: All succubi in general, Darkrai, Lucifer
Vincent Brooks is a thirty-two year old still in a relation with his girlfriend Katherine McBride but was too indecisive in regards to marriage. When the enigmatic beauty named Catherine appeared in his life, everything is dragged into a nightmare. Literally, he is trapped in a nightmare where he must climb to the top in order to survive or else he will die in the real world.
Due to the nature of Multiple Endings, this Vincent is one of nine potential versions of his future, selected by an unidentified deity. In four of them, he doesn't get either the succubus Catherine or his old girlfriend Katherine McBride, two where it's by his own choice, two in where the girl he chose turns him down but he is now free to get his life back on track. In two, he lives in the Netherworld with Catherine, and in one of those, he took it over from her bumbling father. In two others, he makes it up to Katherine and they marry. The Vincent that came is the one where he doesn't pick either girl and pursues his dreams of space tourism, after which he was invited to the Pantheon.
Having confronted his Shadow back in his nightmares before, Vincent decided doing so again in the TV World wouldn't be a bad idea. Getting a Persona out of the deal seems to be pretty sweet.
- He recognized Minato Arisato as that kid he met in the Club Escapade. When they first met, he told him that he'll have nothing to do with Minato's problems. Now, he thought that he was the only one who has problem at night.
Even though she sees potential in him, Kyu decided to respectfully back off from taking him in as a client. With what he's been through, he's probably not ready. It doesn't help that in some of his endings, he's already happily married, and it's not in her rules to go after such people.
Due to his experience with Catherine, who is revealed to be a succubus, he doesn't like to be near others like Morrigan and Lilith Aensland.
Princess Cadance pities him for the hell he had to endure, and plans to tear Thomas Mutton a new one for putting him and many others through such trying ordeal, even if it's to continue population growth by weeding out cheaters.
Because he endured in The Great Trials in his Nightmares for a week, he doesn't like those who bring nightmares which could force him back in if they had the power. He seeks the help of some dream deities that could help him sleep well just in case these Nightmares could be recreated in the Pantheon.
- He doesn't enjoy being in company with Darkrai who can cause bad dreams. This guy needs a supply of Lunar Wings. Though, Bane enjoyed making an illusion of his Nightmares when he is put to sleep by him.
- Though Luna would help with his dreams, if she saw that he is going to start another relationship problem, she might restore the Nightmare again just to teach him a lesson.
He is usually seen in the House of Foods drinking. He befriended Homer as his drinking buddy, and thinks Moe is alright considering how his old bartender, The Boss, essentially started his Nightmares and was his final obstacle.
He once played an arcade game based on Rapunzel in which is similar to his Nightmares. He told both Rapunzel and Flynn Rider that he hoped that their marriage last forever.
He meets with those experienced with tarot cards who tells him about how his trials were similar to the story of the Lovers Arcana. He was put on a crossroad where he choose either a young romantic woman who represents Catherine or an older wise woman who represents Katherine. Of course, he could take another path if he wanted to and he took it.
He doesn't usually speak to high school students but he feel very uncomfortable when speaking with Yukari Takeba and Rise Kujikawa since the two sound too much like K/Catherine so it could be both confusing and disturbing. Ironically, both of these girls represents the Lovers Arcana.
Due to the similar sounding name, he thought that K/Catherine are in the Pantheon. With the woman named Catherine Kyoubashi and Katherine Anne Pryde, he realized that he was mistaken.
Whether or not he actually gotten married, he openly respect those that did since they made a choice on commitment. Though while he is in no position to oppose cheating, since he either trapped in it or embraced it, he hoped that they don't suffer through the Nightmare he faced, depending on how bad they are.
- He doesn't appreciate Makoto Ikou for actively cheating on people, in which he was very nervous and even frightened of the love triangle he got himself into. Though he isn't old enough, he hoped that he doesn't have to suffer through the same thing he faced in his nightmares.
- He doesn't know how he feels about the love goddess Aphrodite who is known to having multiple lovers.
- Ironically, he doesn't know how he feels about harems since it's not technically cheating when there are multiple partners holding interest in one person. Though Issei is shown to have the most stable of the harem as in the future, all of them has a child with him and are in a happy family.
  - It is worth noting that he has his own harem of demonesses when he became the Lord of the Underworld.
- He pitied both Korra and Asami when they dated Mako who did cheat on both with each other, although he's surprised that both of them are a couple.
Since he was seen as a sheep in his Nightmares, he ended up respecting Ampharos, a sheep(?) Pokémon, as he felt like he saw many sheep that didn't survive the Trials like the lamb for the slaughter.
Lucifer "respects" him for in one period where he became the new Lord of the Underworld, in which he compensates million of maccas (currency) for his honeymoon for his demon harem for what his friend Ishtar (or rather her human guise Trisha) put him through. Vincent isn't sure what to say to him.

edited 20th Dec '16 7:41:48 AM by mariovsonic999

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#85141: Dec 20th 2016 at 8:23:11 AM

King Hippo stomps his way to godhood

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#85142: Dec 20th 2016 at 8:24:39 AM

The Vishkar corp. do bad things and one time Symmetra went against their orders. She was told to infiltrate a site and kill whoever got in her way but she didn't. That kinda shows a little doubt she has in Vishkars dealings. However she is still loyal to them so a betrayal won't be happening anytime soon. Her going against them only happened once but it was for a good reason. I think we should keep her out of the GUAG and GUAL for now.

edited 20th Dec '16 8:29:53 AM by ChaosMarineNautilus

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#85143: Dec 20th 2016 at 8:34:55 AM

She wasn't really going against the orders as much as the mission control was wondering why not just kill the guards, with her response being that she doesn't kill if she doesn't have to. So at least she isn't one to throw people into the grinder for her goals if she can in anyway avoid it.

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#85144: Dec 20th 2016 at 8:42:07 AM

Vincent@

Mention before of giving Supes The Cape and Bats The Cowl. That's still good?

edited 20th Dec '16 9:38:42 AM by WhirlRX

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#85145: Dec 20th 2016 at 9:57:45 AM

I really don't know.

Btw, do you have any ideas for Winston?

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#85146: Dec 20th 2016 at 10:16:09 AM

Now's not the time to be dead!

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#85147: Dec 20th 2016 at 10:49:59 AM

So time to do something what I should have done today.

Hijiri Mochizuki, Goddess of Snowy Christmas ("Holy Maiden", "Pure White Maiden", "White Snowflakes")

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Quasideity
Symbol: Crystallized snowflake
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Snowy Christmas, Idol Singer, Carols, Commonly Appears During Winter, Snow Means Love, One of Most Conservative Clothed Idols, Born on Christmas Day
Domains: Snow, Christmas, Carols
Allies: Koume Shirasaka, Ranko Kanzaki, 765 Pro, Jack Frost
Hijiri is bit of a rare idol, not generally showing up around most of the year. However, whenever Christmas rolls around, she is sure to come around, spreading her hums and carols in the silent night. She also seems to be lucky that it always seems to snow when she's around.
While most Christmas-related deities are about the celebration of Christmas, she is different, as she is more fascinated with the mood around the Christmas time. She is more specifically fascinated about the snowy nights, as she finds them romantic.
When she heard that there is a god who represents Snow Means Love, she immediately wanted to meet them. After she met Jack Frost, she seems to have an interest in him. However, she is bit creeped out on the whole "Snow Means Death" thing and was sad to hear that he died in snow.
Isn't really seen outside the winter times. Apparently she is sensitive to heat. Though one does wonder what she does outside the winter. Maybe she is hibernating?
Not to be confused with Byakuren Hijiri.

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#85148: Dec 20th 2016 at 10:57:03 AM

In regards to the Symmetra thing and Leona: I didn't see Symmetra make a quote in her lore that's paraphrasing Adolf Hitler^note

In other news, update on B.B. and the Alter Egos and Martha. The latter I feel is finished and ready to be combined with Saint George.

B.B, Meltlilith and Passionlip, Triumvirate Goddesses of Composite Characters, (B.B.: Mysterious Black Magus, Black Coat Girl, Black Blossom, Black Sakura, Moon Cancer, Forgotten Primordial Goddess, BB, Bebe, Baby; Meltlilith: Artemis, Lotan, Saraswati, Meltlilis; Passionlip: Parvati, Durga, Brynhild, Passion Lip)

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(Left to right) Meltlilith, B.B. and Passionlip

Theme Songs: Love Is Like Poison
- B.B.: Bottom Black - Moon Gazer, B.B. Channel
- Meltlilith: Doukoku (Poison)
- Passionlip: Dreamin'
Greater Goddesses^note
Symbol: The Moon Cell^noteThe Holy Grail
Alignment: Chaotic Good (B.B.), Lawful Good (Meltlilith), Lawful Neutral (Passionlip)
Portfolio: Composite Character, Having utterly broken and cheating abilities, Floral Theme Naming^noteBlack Blossom, Lily, Passion and Tulip, Literal Split Personality, Rapunzel Hair, Obsessively in-love with Hakuno Kishinami, What Measure Is a Non-Human?
Domains: Artificial Intelligences
Allies:
- B.B.:
- Meltlilith:
- Passionlip: Brynhild, Seaport Princess
Rivals:
Enemies:
Special Relationships: Sakura Matou^noteTheir "mother", EMIYA (Meltlilith)
In the Moon Cell, a caretaker AI by the name of Sakura Matou fell in love with one Hakuno Kishinami and tried to prevent their demise. However, the she method used to do so was not a permanent or ethical solution but unable to come up with a better idea, Sakura broke down further and decided to escape the pain by restoring herself to factory settings. Because AI data cannot be erased, she moved her memories of loving Hakuno into a trash file that was stored away, where they eventually gained sentience and became the AI known as B.B.. This new AI managed to absorb the primordial Goddess from which all Goddesses originate, along with the Goddesses that came from her such as Tiamat, Gaia, Athena, Ishtar, Astarte. She then created five "Alter Ego" High Servants, made up of three heroic spirits or goddesses each. Of these five, two encountered the target of B.B. (and Sakura's) affection: Meltlilith, made of the Greek Goddess Artemis, Ugaritic's Lotan^note, and the Indian Goddess Sarasvati and Passionlip, made of Indian Goddesses Parvati and Durga, and the valkyrie Brynhildr.
A unique abilitiy of the Alter Egos compared to other Servants is their id_es skills. They are are special, inborn skills possessed by the Alter Egos from the moment of their creation, as well as being "cheat skills" resulting from illegal modification through morphing and reinforcing their existing abilities, making most of them skills that normal Servants do not possess. They are the exposure of an individual's psyche rather than the abilities of the body. These skills are always EX-ranked: Meltlilith's is Melt Virus, which is the highest grade of energy drain. Draining, copying, and scaling down are all possible. Passionlip's is Trash & Crash, which makes it that no matter how large the capacity of the item, as long as it is "something that can be enveloped by her hands", she can crush and compress it, whatever it may be. And yes, this includes anything that can fit inside Passionlip's hands via Finger Framing.
Due to being outside the Moon Cell's rules within the Pantheon proper, the three are relatively peaceful. B.B. notably enjoys spending time with [[Pantheon/Vengeance Sakura Matou]]. Likely because she finds it amusing to confuse people with their identical looks. EMIYA, however, is not too happy to see Meltlilith.

Saint Martha (Martha of Bethany, Virgin, Myrrhbearer, Wonder Worker of Southern Gaul, Rider, The Dragontamer Saint, Ruler, Dragon-puncher Saint)

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^{As a Ruler}

Symbol: Her Staff
Alignment: Lawful Good
Portfolio:
- Shared: Patron Saint, The Dragonslayer,
- Martha: Badass Preacher, Bare-Fisted Monk, Boobs Of Steel, Contemporary with Jesus, Dragon Rider, Fluffy Tamer, Good Old Fisticuffs, Lady of War, Lightning Bruiser, Silk Hiding Steel
Allies:
- Shared: Artix Von Krieger, Dovahkiin, Jeanne d'Arc, God (God, the Devil and Bob), Natsu Dragneel and Gajeel Redfox, Alexstrasza, Archangel Michael, Tyrael and all good-aligned angels,Samurai Jack, Reinhardt
- Martha: Raidou Kuzunoha XIV, Tassadar, Tifa Lockheart, Toki,
Rivals: Ornstein (one-sided on Ornstein's part)
Enemies: Evil dragons
Opposes: Dio Brando, Takuma Saiou
Conflicting Opinion (Martha): Caim an d Angelus (moreso with Caim than Angelus)
Martha of Bethany is holy woman from the 1st Century whom Yeshua of Nazareth frequently visited, along with her sister Mary and brother Lazarus. Martha was always the generous hostess while her siblings listened and learned from Him.
The other well-known aspect of Martha's story is when she appeased the dragon Tarasque. The tarasque was a massive dragon with a turtle's shell, six legs, the head of a beast and a stingered tail. It devastated the landscape, destroying everything in its path. The king sent out his knights to slay the tarasque with swords and spears and even catapults, but nothing would damage the beast. At last, Saint Martha was sent out to the tarasque, and she tamed the tarasque with hymns and prayers, saving the countryside. She led back the tamed Tarasque to the city. The people, terrified by the monster, attacked it when it drew nigh. The monster offered no resistance and died there. Martha then preached to the people and converted many of them to Christianity. Sorry for what they had done to the tamed monster, the newly Christianized townspeople changed the town's name to Tarascon.
- However.... she has sometimes implied that it wasn't just her words that quelled the beast. While cracking her knuckles.
Unlike George, while Martha does have a long list of patronages, it's not as ridiculously long. Her patronages are: butlers, cooks, dietitians, domestic servants, homemakers, hotel-keepers, housemaids, housewives, innkeepers, laundry workers, maids, manservants, servants, servers, single laywomen, travellers, Villajoyosa, and Spain.
Just as Michael aided George with defeating his Dragon, the Archangel aided Martha. Though apparently in her case it was teaching her to fight. Martha also has one nasty right hook.
Martha was pleasantly surprised upon hearing that Raidou Kuzunoha XIV has used the tarasque to travel across water, though since it's part-turtle it being able to swim makes sense. However, she does hope that his use of the tarasque doesn't lead to harm coming to the dragon.
Many have noticed a... similarity between Martha and Tifa Lockheart. This has caused no end of speculation from other pantheon members, ranging from Tifa being Martha's descendant or reincarnation.
Martha's not a fan of Christmas celebrations for three reasons: One: that it's too commercialized; Two: It gives too much emphasis on couples like Valentine's Day instead on family; Three: Jesus was born in October anyway so the entire holiday is incorrect. She knows the last part for sure, mainly because she was literally Pals with Jesus.