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- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
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- Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
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- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
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- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5
is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
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is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4
is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
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- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
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- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
- You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
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- Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website
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- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
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- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud
or YouTube
.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM
@krim: Okay, let m put it this way; what does Lucifer have what Melkor doesn't for them? In fact, I feel like GUAE would benefit them much more. Because organized evil is much easier than organized chaos. They would find more potential allies in GUAE than in GUAC. Chaos also isn't necessarily about strife and conflict, it is also about doing whatever you want. Which also can be counteractive to others who believe in that idea.
On another note, Eve made me think that maybe I could make a profile for Hijiri. Maybe Dreaming of a White Christmas.
edited 18th Dec '16 9:16:31 AM by TPPR10
Only sometimes postsNightelf, I believed you made a bad move on the SAO profile. I'm going to delete your edit right away.
This is all Zi-O's fault!@Faso More like a necessity for this website, seeing that people nowadays hate the show on the forums here.
Anyway, again, are there people who possess black-ish fire (no, not hellfire) and are there people who are protective of their homeplaces?
This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.. ∩(·ω·)∩ WAIT, is this supposed to be the mistress herself?
Andou from Literature Club can produce a black. I think it's useless except I think it evolve to something useful.
"Useful" is a relative term, and maybe not even that. Regular version of Dark and Dark is a lukewarm flame what can't be projected. Dark and Dark of the End is an ever-lasting flame what can be projected, but the user is not immune to the effects. You could literally steal his powers, and it wouldn't extinguish.
On the Dazzlings:
Well, mainly reliability. Lucifer's all about those grand scale conflicts, while Melkor wants blind obedient dystopia as much as random acts of violence. Basically, Melkor doesn't need them as much as Lucifer does: think of it this way, they could be Lucifer's standard opening play. They go in, sing a ditty and get everyone riled up and willing to give the GUAC the battles they seek, fantastic for those more stubborn pacifist elements. On the other hand, they don't fit into nearly as many of Melkor's plans: say he wanted to blow up a planet of innocent orphaned puppies.
Basically, by working for Lucifer, they know that a. they have a reliable food source and won't be sitting on their asses at all and b. Lucifer's a MUCH better boss than Melkor.
Who actually cares about the faction leaders? Like I personally think that GUAE encompasses all forms of villainy, not just what some dude from one book cares about. Really, only faction who is actually run by the leader seems to be GUAL, at least to me. If the Dazzlings don't care about Melkor, well, there are plenty of villains in GUAE whom they can scheme with. In GUAC, well, I have no clue whom else they can fall back into.
PS, nice way to promote freedom by bringing in bunch of mind controllers.
edited 18th Dec '16 11:33:39 AM by TPPR10
Only sometimes postsLaw at least makes sense for that, because Order expects Absolute. Obedience.
Lucifer runs his group by example and still lets his fellows do as they wish for the most part (No Rape or weird demon orgies, and no indiscriminate random child killings). Polygamy is probably okay since he has slept with multiple women at the same time and had kids with them.
edited 18th Dec '16 11:33:46 AM by OmegaRadiance
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.I'm surprised there was never a Evil Versus Evil deal with GUAE since every villain has their own agenda and would backstab others.
Also, I'm expecting GUAG to get in a couple of Let's You and Him Fight. Especially if they came from Marvel.
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That practically disqualifies the God Hand and their disciples.
If Mv C:I teaches us anything, it's that X and Iron Man are rivals.
edited 18th Dec '16 11:55:45 AM by Gehayadren
Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.In that notion, when we going to fix GUAL? Archangel Michael can be one of the reforming members.
I stand by the idea that it doesn't need fixing. Or at the very least Satan who is the one who allows those worthy of facing YHVH will find them unworthy. Maybe if a human stood before him to take the place of the Creator or is the one to challenge him, but he'll likely find other Gods will will inevtiably repeat the cycle. Only a deity that is still human can stand upon the throne and not be bound by their non-human nature.
And this will be coming from the Ancient Abiter - Beast of Revelations: The Red Dragon who has always sought to see YHVH overthrown in this form.
edited 18th Dec '16 12:17:07 PM by OmegaRadiance
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.That is what Law is. Uncompromising. Intolerant. Ruthless. Obedience. Free from Freedom.
You either become a Slave to Law or die. Much like the Chaos Gods are extreme emotion at the near end of chaos, Law is at the other end. Pure Law without things like Morality or Empathy holding it back. Good and Evil no longer apply. Weak, dependent humans wished for Law and Order above all else and it's what they got.
edited 18th Dec '16 12:28:16 PM by OmegaRadiance
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.... This is why I feel that the SMT Law faction shouldn't be the ones leading the Law faction in the Pantheon.
That's not Law by the D&D/Pathfinder terms which is what the Pantheon is based on.
THIS is what Law is:
Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include close-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, and a lack of adaptability. (D&D 3e)
Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include close-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, judgmentalness, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidence that others will act as they should. (D&D 3.5e)
Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include closed-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, self-righteousness, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidence that others will act as they should. (Pathfinder)
I don't see ANY of what you're claiming in here Omega
edited 18th Dec '16 12:42:00 PM by BlackSunNocturne
Actually I am being more flexible with it despite what you might think. I could have included the hypocrisy (Because Yin-Yang and SMT loves having Hypocrisy as part of some endings, especially in IV and Apocalypse).
Plus Law and Chaos are part of SMT, it's just that Good/Evil/Neutral isn't included. Rather it's how humans see the deity instead. Light for "Benevolent" deities, Neutral for Neutral, and Dark for "Malevolent". Some demons can be dark but good, while Light can be filled with puppy kicking d-bags.
As SMT has pointed out in IV/IVA. Demons are literally concepts given form by reality. YHVH is quite literally the embodiment of Law.
Celtic God Dagda identifies as Wind/Water because that's what he used to be before humans wished for him to exist. As an example.
EDIT: Satan is also the coolest guy ironically. He is completely partial, unbiased, and more Neutral in his thinking but still Law.
edited 18th Dec '16 12:46:06 PM by OmegaRadiance
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.@ Black Sun Nocturne: I thought it was because YHVH was dragging down their rep by making it "Lawful Evil by another name", but that's a good argument as well
@ Whirl RX: That's Couples, not Romance. Also, I already got permission for Max some time back
@ The alignments: The GUAE seems to be one massive Villain Team-Up, and Melkor's just the guy who wrangles them together under one roof. Its more about the individuals trying to fufill their own ambitions. The GUAG is similar, though they're obviously more inclined to work together and do things for Cosmos. The GUAL and GUAC actually seem mostly dedicated to the core statement of their leaders, that being make a more lawful and orderly pantheon/stop the GUAL and spread freedom respectively. That's how I saw it
Zygarde goes up today. Also, is there anything else I could add to Zamasu
Zygarde, Collective Deity of Adaptation Expansion (The Order Pokemon, Squishy, Z1, Z2)

- Votes: 3(Ferot Dreadnaught, Omega Radiance, n3xus)
- Date of ascension: 19 December
- House: Narrative(Ambiguous rank)
- Rank: Quasideities (Zygarde Cell), Demideities (Zygard Core), Lesser Deity (10% Zygarde), Intermediate Deity (50% Zygarde), Greater Deity (Complete Zygarde)
- Symbol: A green hexagon
- Theme Song: Pokemon X/Y-Vs Kalos Legendary
(shared with Xerneas and Yveltal)
- Alignment: Lawful Neutral
- Ability: Aura Break or Power Construct, depending on the situation
- Gender: Genderless
- Moveset: Core Enforcernote /Dragon Dancenote , Extreme Speed, Thousand Arrows, Thousand Waves
- Z-Move: Devastating Drake
- Portfolio: Our Dragons Are VERY Different, Gaia's Vengeance, Dug Too Deep, Collective Creatures, Non-Malicious Monster, The Swarm, Biology Bizarre Even By Pokemon Standards, Core Enforcer, Land's Wrath, Thousand Arrows And Thousand Waves, Bragging Rights Reward, Ground Types, Expanded Role In Adaptations, Detachment Combat
- Domains: Collectives, The Land, Order, Dragons, Monsters, Nature
- Allies: Ash Ketchum, Celebi, Rayquaza, The Pokemon Rangers, Captain Planet, Io, Crixalis the Sand King, Viridi
- Partner: Gaea
- Headbutting Heroes with: Xerneas, Yveltal
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: Beerus, Lucifer
- Enemies: Lysandre, Cell, Fenrir, Mr Burns, Looten Plunder, Hexxus, Apophis, YHVH, Nurgle, the GUAD
- Opposes: Kyogre and Groudon, ice-related deities, the House of Toxicity, anyone and anything that'd threaten the ecosystem
- On speaking terms with: The House of Life And Death
- Xerneas, the Life Pokemon. Yveltal, the Destruction Pokemon. Between the two is the Order Pokemon and the balance of life and death, Zygarde. This Lovecraftian wyrm initially seemed like a rather bog standard legendary, having little relevance to the plot of X and Y. It wasn't even close to the power of its supposed trio members. However it ended up getting expanded on massively in the anime, with further lore showing up in future generations. It now takes the role as the deity of Adaptation Expansion.
- Zygarde is not a single entity, but a collective Hive Mind of cells. These flatworm-like creatures have no brain of their own, and are commanded by both instinct and the five Zygarde Cores. Each of these cores must gather up a certain amount of cells to reach its different forms, who like Xerneas and Yveltal seem to be inspired by Norse mythology, specifically Loki's brood(they deny any blood relation with each other). No-one's quite sure how it qualifies as a dragon.
- 10% Zygarde is its weakest attacking form, resembling a doberman. Though its stats are more like a normal Pokemon, its the fastest of the Zygarde forms. It takes after Fenrir, however does not like the beast. It wants to defend the environment, so is vehemently opposed to the beast's desire to destroy the world.
- 50% Zygarde is the first known form of the Pokemon, being a serpentine entity with the ability of Aura Break. Too bad its ability eliminates the auras of the Pokemon it was already vulnerable too. It appears to be based off Jormungadr. There might be some influence from Nidhoggr, but gets testy if compared to that Omnicidal Maniac. Or Apophis, the serpentine Omnicidal Maniac in the pantheon.
- Complete Zygarde is only summoned in the direst situations, all 95 Cells and 5 Cores coming together. It has one of the highest HP stats, and manages to surpass Xerneas and Yveltal in strength. It appears to be based off Hel. Some speculate it might take some inspiration from Cell
. Gets enraged if compared to him, due to Cell being a sadistic Omnicidal Maniac and blight on the environment.
- Exist to protect the environment, which made it a natural partner for Gaea and a good ally to Captain Planet. While normally peaceful, it is easy to anger when it comes to threats to the environment. It used to show distrust for humans, though its red Zygarde Core(known as Squishy) came to trust them and later on its blue core/Z2 as well. The initial distrust of humans and its desire to protect nature leads it to have a kinship with Virdi.
- Zygarde is notably similar to Rayquaza; they're green dragons who exist as a natural balancing act. The two get along, and sometimes drink away their sorrows that they have quadruple weakness to ice attacks. The Sky High Pokemon does have Delta Stream to help, leaving the Order Pokemon annoyed at still being super-weak to ice. The other members of the Weather Trio, however? Zygarde considers them dicks for causing environmental catastrophe out of their feud, and will help Rayquaza wrangle them in. Has shown some fondness for Celebi.
- Despises Lysandre for experimenting on him in the anime, and mind-controlling it for his plans.
- Though its home and temple is part of the House of Narrative, it feels more native in the House of Nature. Asides from its partner and Viridi being there, it finds the sandstorms of Crixalis a great help. However it dislikes the fact that Toxicity is a sub-house to Nature, as it opposes polluters and wastelands. It can also be found trying to enforce balance in the House of Life and Death.
- Opposes the GUAD and Nurgle in equal measure. It considers both to be the ultimate perversion of destruction and life; a destruction without end or justice, and a life twisted beyond value.
- Keeps an eye out for Beerus. It understands the point of his destruction as a means of balancing the universe, and is fine helping that balance be kept with him, but his childishness and mood-swings is something to keep an eye on. It has a much easier alliance for balance with Io, particularly since the two are dragons.
- Though the Order Pokemon, it doesn't want to associate with the GUAL. Part of that is due to their law being something it doesn't care about. Part of it is because of YHVH. The Mad God of Order has proved to be a blight on nature and the ecosystem, something Zygarde cannot stand. It will team up with the GUAC to stop YHVH and His forces, though it has zero interest in Lucifer's cause.
Fusion Zamasu, God of "Salvation" Through Genocide (formerly Goku Black and Future Zamasu)

- House: Hatred
- Overdeity (components were Greater Gods)
- Symbol: His Potara Earings
- Alignment: Chaotic Evil (believes self to be Lawful Good)
- Portfolio(Zamasu in general): Walking Spoiler, Former Apprentice Kai, Tautological Templar, Cold-Blooded With Twisted Morality, Hypocrite, Satanic Archetype, Hates Mortals Because Of Their Immorality, Yet Becomes Worse Than Any Of Them, Black-and-White Insanity, Visionary Villain, Absolute Immorality
- Fusion Zamasu: Fusion Dance Out Of Necessity, Sees Self As God Incarnate, Holy Halo, Red and Black and Evil All Over And Light-Aligned, Half-Kai, Half-Saiyan, Power Echoes, Superpower Lottery, Incomplete Immortality, Almighty Idiot Corrupting An Entire Timeline, Completely Obliterated Along With The Corrupted Multiverse
- Goku Black component: Blood Knight, Another Zamasu Who Stole Goku's Body, Cold Ham, Broken Stable Time Loop But Still Exists, Being Nuts, Obviously Evil Wears Black, The Mind Is a Plaything of the Body, Never Looses His Cool, Never Suffers For His Actions
- Future Zamasu component: Green and Mean, Mask of Sanity, Cannot Be Killed And Overconfident Because Of This, Kick Them While They Are Down, Duo With Goku Black, Feel No Pain, White Hair, Black Heart
- Domains: Genocide, The Gods, Self-Righteousness, Timelines, Mystery, Hypocrisy
- Allies: None-he sees any god as too much of a rival or threat to himself to be a true ally
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: The Anti-Spiral, Malthael, Shinobu Sensui, The Dark Judges, Broly
- Enemy Mine with: YHVH
- Enemies: Every other Dragonball god, especially Son Goku, Vegeta, Beerus and Future Trunks. For that matter, any god in the pantheon who was/is mortal in their home universe, especially Madoka Kaname, Team Dai-Gurren, Clark Kent, Raleigh Becket and Mako Mori, Aleph, Asura, Thanos, Victor Von Doom and The Emperor of Mankind
- Opposes: The GUAD, every time traveler, The Living Tribunal, Lucifer, Nyarlathotep and Philemon
- Opposed by: Asides from any mortal or rival god(in other words, everyone and everything not mentioned), anyone who believe Rousseau Was Right is contemptuous towards them
- Fears: Funny Valentine, Enrico Pucci
- Zamasu was the former North Kai of Universe 10, and the apprentice Supreme Kai of that universe. Though a prodigy, he distrusted mortals because of their propensity for evil. An encounter with Goku, who proved stronger than him, exacerbated the issue and began his turn to evil. Out of his inability to discern moral gray areas and belief that the gods are perfect, he plans to slaughter all mortals to create a better world for the gods. Even if he has to kill the other gods to do it.
- The current Zamasu is a fusion of two versions of himself, equal partners in crime. One half of him is Goku Black, the original main timeline Zamasu before Beerus killed him possessing Goku's body. The other is the Zamasu of Trunks' timeline, who was partnered with his counterpart after the former had put his plans into motion. He's gone on saying this is proof of the sin of time travel, as if Trunks never traveled back in time his Start of Darkness would never happen...ignoring that the Future Zamasu was planning on killing Gowasu anyway and Trunks only went back in time to save his world(not to mention that Cell would've probably screwed Universe 7 over if he never went back in time so the Androids would be killed).
- Finds the very concept of the Trope Pantheon to be repulsive. Of its members, the majority were not gods in their home universe, and he considers the very idea of a mortal reaching the position of god to be the height of blasphemy. He particularly incensed by mortals who deified themselves in their own series or god-like levels of power, like Madoka Kaname for becoming hope or Team Dai-Gurren for their god-like antics. Thanos and Victor Von Doom are also near the top of his hit list for successfully usurping godly power on a number of occasions
- Though a villain, Zamasu doesn't feel like he has anything in common with the other Dragonball villains. Unlike them who either don't care about their evil or take pride in it, he believes he's doing the multiverse a service. Most would argue he's just as, if not worse than the likes of Freeza or Majin Buu, which he refuses to believe. However if need be, he will work with Broly due to sharing hatred towards Goku and one of his bases fusing with him into Karoly Black. The GUAG is in fear of if the Fusion Zamasu ever seeks to combine with him.
- Claims that he is the true form of justice, and should be made the leader of the House of Justice. Said house laughed at his proposal, which Zamasu responded by claiming they are "ignorant of what justice really is".
- Claims to act in the interest of the gods, but given he killed all the gods in Future Trunks' timeline his "noble" ambitions ring hollow. As such proper allies are all but impossible for him, considering his ego only made it possible to befriend an alternate version of himself. For the moment, he is working with YHVH to teach mortals their place...albeit it's an extremely tenuous alliance as their attitudes and narcissism
- He also is trying to work with Maltheal to make mortals behave, however thinks The Evils of Free Will isn't enough to deal with mortals as he considers them that corrupt. He does consider it a good stepping stone however.
- Vehemently denies that, at the end of the day, he's more interested in being THE Top God of creation than bettering the multiverse. No matter how much of a Satanic Archetype he is, do not claim that he is one. He goes into bouts of Unstoppable Rage if compared to Melkor. The Dark Lord finds his self-denial of just how utterly irredeemable he is hilarious.
- Words cannot begin to describe how much Goku, Vegeta and especially Future Trunks hate him. As Goku Black, he stole Goku's body and murdered both him and his family in cold blood, killed Future Bulma and laid waste to Future Trunks' world. There's also the fact that, when he lost his physical body, he rendered his entire timeline lifeless.
- The closest thing to an ally he has is the Anti-Spiral. A fellow Overdeity of Hatred, the two agree on mortals being a threat, albeit for different reasons. Both are as genocidal at each other. However they argue on just severe their decimation and suppression of mortals should be, and given the Anti-Spiral is essentially a Deity of Human Origin there's some uncomfortability between the two.
- Believed that Light Yagami would be a worthy disciple, however even Kira thinks he's too extreme.
- Goku, Vegeta and Trunks were horrified to learn that Zamasu had returned, considering he not only died, but was completely erased by Future Zen'o . It was eventually revealed that the Grand United Alliance of Destruction was behind his return, seeing as how his hypocritical ambitions would help lay waste to everything. However he considers them to be disgusting for trying to kill everything, despite his own plans not being much different.
- For a god to not interfere or get involved is a sin to him, and as such he looks down upon any All-Powerful Bystander. He considers the Living Tribunal to be corrupt for only getting involved in the direst of situations rather than regularly judging mortals, while the Cosmic Entity simply considers him out of his mind. Philemon's tendency for this in spite of supposedly being the embodiment of all that is good about humanity re-affirmed his belief on the evils of mortals, as did learning of Nyarlathotep.
- Were he not human, he'd consider Shinobu Sensui a near-perfect ally as they share absolute hatred of humanity. He also applauds the Dark Judges of realizing how criminal the lives of mortals are, but would prefer them to exterminate sentient life specifically instead of life itself.
- Though they sound alike, do not mistake him for Aikuro Miki, Gyro Zeppeli, James or Roy Mustang for even a second. All of them consider Zamasu in all his forms reprehensible, and he finds it irritating he even sounds like a mortal.
- When his physical form was destroyed by Trunks, his spirit tried to become justice itself by assimilating the timeline he was in. The downside was losing what little sanity he had left, similar to Giygas-a comparison Zamasu isn't comfortable. The House of Justice considers him an abomination, and Madoka Kaname is quick to point out his One-Winged Angel form is a complete failure at Abstract Apotheosis.
- Usually keeps his cool, however when it comes to Funny Valentine he is absolutely terrified of him. As a composite of two alternate versions of the same being, Valentine's Stand is his kryptonite. That being said, there's some ambiguity as to how it might affect him considering he's physically half-Goku and possesses corrupted Complete Immortality. Considering what he became after he lost his physical body, Valentine is afraid what might happen and only plans on using Dirty Deeds Done Cheap on Zamasu if absolutely necessary.
- He's afraid of what Enrico Pucci might do to him as well. Mainly Made in Heaven, as the Time Acceleration could screw with the fusion and possibly even erase him from the new reality .
- Future Trunks once summed up Zamasu perfectly:
- —>"Who cares about your justice?!"
I thought the deal was that we were trying to create the fair version of Law in GUAL. If you want, you can create two opposing faction; those that follows YHVH and those of Shiki and Michael.
But then we have to created the desctruction type of Chaos lead by The Joker.
And we Civil War II, Carol could be part of Megistrate. Though, I got to delete certain membets there.
Rj@ Then bring in those two aliens he romance. Earthlings are aliens as well.
edited 18th Dec '16 12:48:20 PM by WhirlRX


Can I question this writing made by Nightelf?
edited 18th Dec '16 9:54:32 AM by MeeMaggot
This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.. ∩(·ω·)∩ WAIT, is this supposed to be the mistress herself?