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IndirectActiveTransport You Give Me Fever from Chicago Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
You Give Me Fever
Mar 29th 2014 at 7:25:58 PM

Looks good to me.

That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
Camilla What do you mean I'm not declared insane? Relationship Status: Californicating
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
Mar 29th 2014 at 8:27:59 PM

Okay, I'll put them in.

Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
Mar 29th 2014 at 10:23:41 PM

The Judge, God of Non-Violent Judgment and Chief Justice of the Court (His Honor, Udjey, the Bearded Gentleman)

  • Demigod(His verdicts however carry authority of a Greater God)
  • Symbol: A gavel.
  • Alignment: Lawful Neutral
  • Portfolio: A Justice of the Peace, a large beard, slamming his gavel, eccentric, but skilled in his field, upholding the law,adoring cute things, never using his name, Reasonable Authority Figure.
  • Domains: Law, Judgment, Truth
  • Allies: Phoenix Wright, Jack Mc Coy, the Cutie Mark Crusaders
  • Likely one of the biggest upsets within the House of Judgment, Johnson of the Big Five was sued by the Junkyard Dog for his blatant abuse of authority within the Pantheon. Johnson was found guilty and stripped of his powers and godhood. With no one to fill the void, the most unusal person suggested a replacement. Twilight Sparkle used a summoning spell to call on 'the greatest judge in existence. This called forth the justice of the peace most familiar to Phoenix Wright.
  • Many of the cases the judge presides have been around the validity of potential gods within their domain. Whether a god should be returned to mortality or be forced to share the title with another have often come to him to decide their fate.
  • By no means a violent man himself, the judge can however be pushed to his limits, and channel all of his godhood into a single powerful strike with his mighty gavel. Any remarks from his victim in this situation is shut down with a powerful 'Objection Overruled!'
  • After any trials he gives verdicts to, he will often have the accused submitted to Yamaxanadu's higher judgment for a final sentencing.
  • Many times he has been proven to be gullible and persuadable, but at the end of the day, not even the Holy Trinity can detour the Judge from trying to find the truth from even the smallest of circumstances.

Well that's my template so far. If you have anything you'd like to add to this, please let me know.

HotmanX32 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Mar 29th 2014 at 10:31:45 PM

Looks decent. I'm fine with this template. Does this mean that Johnson Of The Big Five will be placed in The Fallen then?

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IndirectActiveTransport You Give Me Fever from Chicago Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
You Give Me Fever
Mar 29th 2014 at 11:27:56 PM

I'm kind of annoyed Lilith is even in Otherness, since both of her endings in Vampire Savior remove her from the story. (Morrigan either beats Lilith then absorbs her to make her death less traumatic or Lilith beats Morrigan then gives herself up to keep Morrigan from dying) but more importantly than that...

...why are Morrigan and Lilith listed as Demigoddesses, the Badass Normal rank? Even if we ignore their apparent power levels Morrigan is capable of at least three forms of flight, has shape shifting wings, can create physical doppelgangers of herself on whim, shoot energy balls and teleport on top of the contractual dream tricks. Lilith is weaker but still far beyond what any "normal" life form should be capable of. She can have her mammary organs expanded until they explode into a bloody mess recover from it in seconds.

The only reason I did not change it right away is because I have noticed a lot odd divine rankings are similarly skewed (Asura is described as possible overdiety in mantra form but as far as I remember Asura did little more than hit things. His other abilities were inconsistent and nowhere near as varied or as versatile as any Darkstalker bar Baby Bonnie Hood, the actual "normal". The Joker being listed as an Overdeity outright is even stranger. I guess he broke the fourth wall once but only in a story whose outcome was explicitly voted on by the fans and is depicted with human limitations otherwise). Were they just put up by someone who never played Darkstalkers or is their some reasoning here?

edited 29th Mar '14 11:48:10 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
FergardStratoavis Light and Bulb from Leiston Fortress Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Light and Bulb
Mar 30th 2014 at 2:33:50 AM

I do believe that this God rating came up long after the Pantheon itself. Overhauling the whole thing would require someone to sit through it for a good while.

Also, the rank of a deity also represents their influence over the Pantheon. Joker as the very personification of Chaotic Evil has every right to be an Overdeity, same with Fred Rogers.

As for Asura, his punching was enough to blow up a God of the universe, so...

edited 30th Mar '14 2:35:13 AM by FergardStratoavis

"So this is how Berserk is going to end." "With Guts high as fuck?" "High on distilled Behelits."
HotmanX32 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Mar 30th 2014 at 3:44:03 AM

Influence and/or power are two major factors to determine a deity's rank.

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IndirectActiveTransport You Give Me Fever from Chicago Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
You Give Me Fever
Mar 30th 2014 at 9:52:18 AM

Okay but overdeity implies omnipotence or at least impossibility to remove from the setting. That's why I emphasized that he did little more than hit things, Asura had neither. Maybe the reasoning is influence in the pantheon, but sometimes it seems like tropers favor turning a dial up than having more stations. Even if Morrigan was not able to hit things as hard as Asura does, compare the number of plots she breaks. An acid cloud which will breakdown the alloy Asura is made of blankets every centimeter of the Earth's surface. Even if it only lasts a second his only options are find cover, hope he is tough enough to pull through or die. A similar succubi toxin sees Morrigan just teleport, into another plain of existence if need be.

Morrigan has fewer sadistic choices as she can go after two different things falling off a bridge at once. She has an instantaneous, reliable method of disguise and so could assassinate insurgents or discredit political figures easily. A seemingly immortal, unreasoning monster is a little less of an issue as she can communicate with it mentally and attack more than its hide (the last three are the plot of Aura's wrath)

Admittedly, low rank due lack of influence does fit her character but would anyone object to bumping Morrigan and Lilith up to lesser goddess or at least working in some kind of explanation for the demigoddess ranking?

That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
FergardStratoavis Light and Bulb from Leiston Fortress Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Light and Bulb
Mar 30th 2014 at 9:57:25 AM

As someone who's unfamiliar with Darkstalkers, I'm afraid I can't offer any help on the matter.

That being said, overhauling Gods' levels of power would require someone to sit through the night and edit the entire Pantheon one by one.

"So this is how Berserk is going to end." "With Guts high as fuck?" "High on distilled Behelits."
TPPR10 I am here from Finland Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Mar 30th 2014 at 10:30:05 AM

Just do it, okay? I mean, I have done few rank promotions with brief explanation why and no one has complained.

Homunculi naturally drive like crazy.
FergardStratoavis Light and Bulb from Leiston Fortress Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Light and Bulb
Mar 30th 2014 at 10:43:19 AM

Yeah, to be honest it's not even that big of a change.

Alternatively you can justify it by saying that she's simply disinterested with such boosts, being content with what she has.

"So this is how Berserk is going to end." "With Guts high as fuck?" "High on distilled Behelits."
Jinxmenow Ghosts N' Stuff Remix from everywhere you look, everywhere you look Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
Ghosts N' Stuff Remix
Mar 30th 2014 at 12:54:19 PM

I see we don't have a god of Sadistic Choice yet. Good thing you had me here to suggest Judgement Boy.

—>"It was your choice, now you have to live with it."

edited 30th Mar '14 12:55:56 PM by Jinxmenow

"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."
Mar 30th 2014 at 6:27:53 PM

Fixed it up a bit. Still looking for ideas, especially Black Comedy ones.

Mr. Slave God of Ass Shove

  • Rank: Lesser God
  • Symbol: His leather hat.
  • Alignment: True Neutral
  • Portfolio: Ass Shove, Only Sane Man, Hard Gay, Friend to All Children, Black Comedy, Papa Wolf
  • Domains: Strength, Depravity, Suffering
  • Allies: Anarchy Stocking, Slaanesh, Mr. Garrison (sometimes), Eric Cartman, Kenny, most child deities in general.
  • Enemies: The entire House of Beasts, Judge Frollo, Seymour, Mr. Garrison (sometimes), Ghestis, Sophia Lamb, Teppei Houjou.
  • Clenched Teeth Team Work: Kanji Tatsuni
  • Ascended after the "Paris Hilton" incident (which was in response to her corrupting the town's children), a moment which brought many shocked lulz pantheon wide.
  • His rear is a dungeon of horrors haunted by the spirits of The Frog King, Sparrow Prince, and the Katatafish. Has a nuclear device inside as well.
  • Knowledge of an encounter with Lemmiwinks earned Mr. Slave the emnity of the entire House of Beasts, especially the smaller members who are terrified of him.
  • Mr. Slave's love of children (and the time he protected a bunch of kids from a biker gang) is well known. It came as no surprise that he responded to one of Teppei Houjou's attempts to abuse Satako with an encore of his battle with Paris Hilton. The club to this day doesn't know whether to laugh or be horrified.

Mar 30th 2014 at 9:56:34 PM

@Jinxmenow I thought Jigsaw was god of Sadistic choice, or is Life or Limb decision a subtrope? Either way, I think all of the Gregory Horror House would count as gods of something... perhaps Surreal Horror?

ChrisX ..... from ..... Relationship Status: Singularity
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Mar 31st 2014 at 12:09:03 AM

Someone said that Excalibur is just a self-proclaimed Greater God while he's at best Demigod, at worst Quasideity. This... is a wrong thing, right? Has the sayer read Soul Eater?

At the moment, I'll just revert it...

MiscellaneousSoup from Grand Rapids, Michigan Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Mar 31st 2014 at 6:45:37 AM

Is there a way to incorporate Gravity Falls?

Back on the forums?
TPPR10 I am here from Finland Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I am here
Mar 31st 2014 at 7:12:17 AM

So I would like to suggest either a removal or a position change. The subject here is Kogasa from House of Weapons. You see, Kogasa does not fight wit her umbrella that much. She might throw danmaku with it and summon other umbrellas, but never truly beat people with it (understandably, as the umbrella is the real Kogasa). So she doesn't really convey the trope as well as some others. So I would like to either remove her or relocate her (Like as a Goddess of Surprises).

Who should replace her then, you ask? I suggest Yagyuu. She conveys many thinks what you can do with an umbrella from blocking incoming attacks with it, whack people with it really nicely (she can launch even fat people by just opening it on their faces), does convey the hidden weapon thing with it (either hiding multiple blades into it or having a sword hidden in it) and where it isn't a gun (that would be Mirai's specialty), she can still fire projectiles with it. So in terms of using umbrella as a weapon, she has a lot of coming with her.

So who agrees with me? If we can agree on this, I will put up a mock portfolio for her.

Homunculi naturally drive like crazy.
Mar 31st 2014 at 7:14:45 AM

So I've gotten one thumbs up for the Judge's profile. Now I guess the question is(unless there are votes against him) what to do with Johnson. Do we simply delete his file or send him to the Fallen like someone before had suggested?

Jinxmenow Ghosts N' Stuff Remix from everywhere you look, everywhere you look Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
Ghosts N' Stuff Remix
Mar 31st 2014 at 9:34:30 AM

Well, turns out Jigsaw is in the Villains pantheon and not, say, the Court pantheon or the Justice pantheon. Maybe he should be moved...?

All I'm saying is that the Gregory Horror Show needs some kind of representative. The whole place is filled with physical manifestations of abstract concepts.

Another thing I'm saying: There aren't enough Genre gods. There's only one, for westerns. And his file is short.

edited 31st Mar '14 9:39:22 AM by Jinxmenow

"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."
WilliamRadarStorm Clockwise from top left: Matt, Chris, Tom, Gary from Graham Island Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Clockwise from top left: Matt, Chris, Tom, Gary
Apr 1st 2014 at 5:19:31 PM

Say, could we include a subpage for Comedy? And if so: here's a few people I'd like to see there:

George Carlin and Richard Pryor, Gods (or co-Gods) of Stand-up; Jerry Seinfeld, God of Sitcom; Monty Python, Gods of Surrealism; Weird Al, God of Parody music (disputed with The Lonely Island); Groucho Marx, God of comedic sketch.

...I didn't have the budget to afford any pictures. It's also why my profile pic is blank.

edited 1st Apr '14 5:20:05 PM by WilliamRadarStorm

I'd like to remember a a now-concluded series by the people in my avatar. Ran from 2014-2018.
Apr 1st 2014 at 5:39:50 PM

I want to replace As Nodt as god of fear in the house of emotion. My problem with As Nodt is that he only inflicted fear on one person, and was largely ineffective against Yamamoto. Not only that, but there are better examples of fear inducers with a scarecrow motif. My suggestion for a replacement is Fiddlesticks from League of Legends. Alternatively, he can serve as a god of scarecrows.

Fiddlesticks God of fear and evil scarecrows

  • Rank: Greater God
  • Symbol: His scythe and a crow
  • Alignment: Neutral Evil
  • Domains: Fear, crows, scarecrows, eldritch abomination
  • Followers: Jonathan Crane
  • Allies: Jack Skellington
  • Rivals: of the Ancients (Radiants and Dires).
  • Fiddlestick's first appearance in the pantheon caused all crows in the House of Beasts to flock towards the temple of As Nodt. As Nodt was later found torn to shreds. The House of Justice ruled that Fiddlesticks was a better representative of fear, as he was capable of causing fear in both the undead and machines.
  • While most gods are wary around Fiddlesticks, Jack Skellington appreciates his talents in scaring.
  • Is rumored to perform surprise parties, substituting his crows for balloon animals.

edited 1st Apr '14 5:40:37 PM by NineballCirno

IndirectActiveTransport You Give Me Fever from Chicago Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
You Give Me Fever
Apr 1st 2014 at 11:14:28 PM

I guess I would not mind a replacement, and am up for more "evil" gods. Still, there are a lot of league of legends characters already...well there are a lot of series and franchises that seem a little of represented.

Still, if no one has any other suggestions I will not be against it.

That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
ChrisX ..... from ..... Relationship Status: Singularity
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Apr 2nd 2014 at 4:15:41 AM

I'm no Fiddlesticks player, so I do not know if 'fear' is the best thing to describe him. Scarecrows? That could fit right in, and in fact, I recommend it. When his presence is of crows are so big they could make someone like Swain's Super Mode goes 'CAWCAWCAWCAW' (and mind you, Swain himself is a no-nonsense ruthless commander), you deserve that.

However I agree that the addition of As Nodt was largely because of a momentary wham in Bleach manga that... doesn't last long, and only serves to give a swerve on the Vandenreich assault Wham Episode, which IMO, is rather exaggerated. And it doesn't last long too. I agree with the removal of As Nodt... but it better not be Fiddlesticks. Fear is too big of a thing for Fiddlesticks to handle, I have to admit.

So who was the former holder of the Fear throne? We could consider his return further. I was thinking that it was Sweeney Todd, but I am not sure...

edited 2nd Apr '14 4:17:47 AM by ChrisX

TPPR10 I am here from Finland Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I am here
Apr 2nd 2014 at 5:59:08 AM

I don't think it was Sweeney Todd. I think he had something to do with revenge until Asura came.

Though on "already having so many League of Legends characters", where variety is good, I don't mind if something gets bit more attention than others. Like, let's say Touhou character. There are a lot of them already in. Where I try not to suggest any more of them (and just a personal point, the thing with Kogasa is still up in the air), I will suggest if I think the character deserves the spot (like with Kogasa I suggested another spot for her).

So in the end, maybe try not to push too hard on characters which series have already plenty of, but if you think the character deserves the spot over others, then its fine.

Homunculi naturally drive like crazy.
ChrisX ..... from ..... Relationship Status: Singularity
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Apr 2nd 2014 at 6:23:57 AM

Not that I'm with overcrowding, but...

To say that LOL characters have too much entries may be a little wrong here, on these facts:

  • LOL's cast encompasses about 118 characters at the moment, which is about the size of Touhou. All we have so far are just: Garen, Darius, Draven, Riven, Gangplank, Miss Fortune, Caitlyn, Sona, Jinx, Vi, Teemo. Only 11 characters, it's just around 10% (and about 11% if Fiddlesticks does make it). This is not exactly overcrowding like the Madoka Magica series, Persona 4, Blaz Blue or even Asura's Wrath.
  • As the biggest and most played MOBA so far (or until DOTA 2 dethrones it), I say it holds merit that we do get some reps. And when you combine it with its competitor (DOTA), which has around same sized roster, it also holds merits that we do get some DOTA reps as they are the Trope Codifier of the MOBA genre and still going strong. And don't worry, their stories have been tweaked quite a bit that they're not just 'no personality' stuffs from the original DOTA.
  • Speaking of that, those from DOTA so far are just Sven, Lina & Rylai, Azwraith, Lesale, Axe out of 107 heroes.

I'm just sayin' that these two series haven't even reached the point that the 'overcrowding' is ridiculous. You should not be feared about how the MOBA characters are 'overcrowding' at this point. However, they STILL would need to be on our survey to even be inducted. (Like how I really wanted to put Ashe (and possibly alongside Tryndamere) in, but because I can't find a fitting trope she can claim, that'll have to wait) So, just keep the cool and don't fear about the overcrowding of LOL.

I mean, I think as far as 'overcrowding', Touhou actually has more: Reimu, Marisa, Alice, Yukari, Yuyuko, Reisen, Aya, Meiling, Cirno, Sakuya, Flandre, Patchouli, Parsee, Utsuho, the aforementioned Kogasa, and if some of the Pantheon tales are to be counted, we're expecting the rise of Remilia as well...

That being said, let's go back a bit and as a player of both DOTA and LOL, I would like to ask one thing.

Yurnero the Juggernaut is put as a follower of Garen in terms of Spin Attack... I think it was kind of improper, because one thing that is known for Juggernaut is his swordplay, with his most dangerous, most known move being the Omnislash. Which is NOT spinning. Putting that aside, even Yurnero would come first with the spinning attack than Garen. I think it was improper that he's a Garen follower.

But I'm not asking to raise Yurnero, though (while Garen can retain his position). I'm just asking... is it proper if I just remove him as Garen's follower? They're really mastering in different things. What do you say?

edited 2nd Apr '14 6:24:53 AM by ChrisX


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