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tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#1: Mar 19th 2014 at 8:16:37 PM

Okay, so this debuted tonight. Without getting spoilery, I liked it. I especially like that the villains aren't Obviously Evil Complete Monsters. One is basically a Knight Templar who thinks he's doing what's necessary to save humanity, the other has a major league Freudian Excuse and may not even turn out to be evil in the long run. What we've seen so far of Earth is cool as well.

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Bunai Space Bunny from Jupiter Since: Oct, 2010
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#2: Mar 20th 2014 at 7:01:00 PM

I hope this show won't be used to launch love triangles and petty pretty people with problems while completely ignoring the plot and purpose of the characters being on Earth in the first place. And as someone on IM Db pointed out that it should be the most ethnically diverse show on CW, only there are doubts this will even happen.

People are comparing it to LOST and Hunger Games, I don't get that impression but my closest comparison would be to The Walking Dead sans the walking dead part. The focus being on surviving and the lives of people trying to live together in an chaotic setting.

eta If the main Ark only has so many months of oxygen and supplies, then this series better not stretch past three season because that would be ridiculous.

edited 20th Mar '14 7:07:25 PM by Bunai

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#3: Mar 21st 2014 at 9:37:47 AM

According to one reviewer, who saw the first four episodes, while there are of course romantic entanglements they are subordinated to the questions of survival and dominance both on the ground and up in the Ark.

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izeintime Since: Aug, 2013
#4: Mar 21st 2014 at 12:35:52 PM

It's been a going concern for 97 years. It is not running off a supply depot, but is a mostly closed ecosystem, it is currently having problems with the systems that make that work. So, basically, they need enough time to fix things, or an exit strategy.

I have a theory about that exit strategy : There is no way the station authorities have /any/ doubts about the exact level of radiation on earth. It is too easy to measure and predict. I think they preformed a medical intervention on the convicts to make them more resistant to radiation. And the effectiveness of that trick is what is being tested - that is why they have medical monitoring bracelets but no geigercounters. They *want* the kids to walk into every radiation hotspot they come across to see if they are as immune to it as intended. Heck, they probably dropped them in the hottest spot on the map.

edited 21st Mar '14 12:36:29 PM by izeintime

Wilahelm02 Since: Aug, 2010
#5: Mar 22nd 2014 at 10:07:41 AM

Not bad. Some issues when it comes to the exposition dumps but aside from that Its an ok start to the series. I like the idea and hope they do it justice. Some love triangles are to be expected (it is a CW show) but as long as its a subordinate to the main story of survival and who will rule the new earth I'm ok with it.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#6: Mar 22nd 2014 at 7:23:52 PM

I like exposition dumps because I hate not knowing things. Besides you have to expect them at the beginning of a series.

edited 22nd Mar '14 7:25:24 PM by tricksterson

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Wilahelm02 Since: Aug, 2010
#7: Mar 22nd 2014 at 10:13:57 PM

I get that they needed to get the info out there but it felt forced and unnatural the way they did it. But aside from that the episode was still good.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#8: Mar 24th 2014 at 5:28:18 AM

Just want to nitpick and say that the critter they called a snake looked more like an eel to me. On the other hand it's doubtful any of the kids there were biology majors

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#9: Mar 24th 2014 at 6:55:52 AM

[up]Also they were all raised on the Ark so they probably didn't really care about learning about other species on Earth they might have learned about some but not experts. The families that are on the Ark were already there before the Nuclear war that wiped out the rest of the life on Earth or so they thought.

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tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#10: Mar 25th 2014 at 1:00:18 PM

I agree that the station authorities have to know more about conditions on Eiarth than they're telling. Hell, telescopes would tell them that life of some kind, at least plant life, still existed.

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Bunai Space Bunny from Jupiter Since: Oct, 2010
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#11: Apr 2nd 2014 at 7:35:24 PM

Ugh, so it is down to Bellamy, Clarke, and Finn...

And Jasper... for whatever reason.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#12: Apr 3rd 2014 at 6:59:33 AM

I'd say that Charlotte killing Wells counts as a Wham Moment wouldn't you? Interesting that it, kind of, sprung from a rare moment of decency on Bellamy's part.

[up]And Octavia

edited 3rd Apr '14 7:01:34 AM by tricksterson

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Bunai Space Bunny from Jupiter Since: Oct, 2010
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#13: Apr 5th 2014 at 9:35:53 AM

Disregarded Octavia because she isn't doing much of anything.

Bunai Space Bunny from Jupiter Since: Oct, 2010
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#14: Apr 13th 2014 at 4:07:59 AM

[tdown] Had to drop the show after episode 3. The ridiculousness of killing off Wells just so Finn could swoop in as the love interest was a complete turn off. And it seems this has been echoed around the net, especially on the official Facebook and even at the official Twitter.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#15: Apr 13th 2014 at 5:50:52 AM

I liked that they killed off what looked to be a major character. I will grant that a Love Dodecahedron between him, Clarke, Finn, Raven and maybe even bellamy would have been interesting though. And at least he didn't die first. I also liked that between him, Atom and Charlotte this has become an Anyone Can Die show. Probably because I'm rooting for the Grounders though.

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RandomaNama Since: Oct, 2013
#16: Apr 16th 2014 at 11:07:34 PM

It is just me or was the last episode really good? I never knew where it was going, and it always subverted my expectations ( like how men and women volunteered for death once they understood how dangerous the situation was, and that the Arc didn't see the rockets before the culling). That scene with the beret was heart-wrenching.

I like how our main protagonist has her priorities straight (odd on a CW show about a attractive teenage girl), in spite of her romance. I also like how competent and likeable her 'rival' is, and her love interest.

That being said, I'm still not happy with what happened to Wells. I mean, he was bound to die eventually—his situation was to precarious to avoid it—but he was solely defined in relation to the MC. I also don't like the sister being continuously relegated to Damsel in Distress or her brother continually messing things up. Question: does he know about the situation on the arc until this episode? If so, it makes him so much worse.

All in all, I may be giving this episode more credit than it's due. It's a remarkable improvement over the last one, at least.

izeintime Since: Aug, 2013
#17: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:03:33 PM

This was pretty darn good, all around, excepting that Bellamy continues to be a threat to the entire species and petty at the same time.

Clarke being drama free about her love life is making me like her a whole lot. If this show is going to have threesomes, can she have them with Raven and Finn instead of whatever was happening with Bellamy? Because she deserves it a heck of a lot more than he does, and her every interaction with either of them is making me ship it. OT3.

The people of the ark not rioting, but quietly sacrificing was perfect- and the sacrifice was necessary, signal from the ground or not - They do not have any way to send enough people down quickly enough to make a difference.. Uhm.. "until the void gives us back our dead.." are they going to freeze them?

The little girl going blind was adorable. Fantastic job. .. eh, it wasn't adorable that she was going blind. The character was adorable, and the best child actor I can recall seeing, well, ever.

edited 17th Apr '14 12:05:06 PM by izeintime

RandomaNama Since: Oct, 2013
#18: Apr 17th 2014 at 4:40:41 PM

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Is Bellamy the brother? If so, I don't think the show is really setting him and Clarke up. They have completely different values, and Clarke would never forgive him once she finds out the signal was too late and over a hundred people died. Then again, I've missed an episode or two, so who knows.

Agree 100% about the OT3. Everyone would be happy and keep their integrity. It's perfect!

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#19: May 9th 2014 at 2:52:41 PM

The 90 and Falling has been renewed. Yay.

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Baby,theImpala Captain Save A Moe from Izaya Orihara's Office Since: Sep, 2013
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#20: May 15th 2014 at 3:04:30 PM

Octavia and Lincoln. ....ughhhhh.

I knew it dammit. I knew it!

Clarke's character is slipping. I like it.

To quote the great American philosopher, Sweet Brown, "Ain't nobody got time fo' dat."
RandomaNama Since: Oct, 2013
#21: May 15th 2014 at 3:46:37 PM

[up][up] It took me a second to figure out what you meant. Yay! Renewed discussion (and renewed show)!

I gotta' say, this show has really surprised me. It never goes the way I expect it, the romance serve to develop character, and moral/ethical differences dominate the drama (such as with the last episode).

Speaking of the last episode, did skinny guy hallucinate the guards in the trees, or were they actually there? Also, anyone else find is squicky that Octavia is so enamored with Lincoln when he had previously tied her up and traumatized her, despite being perfectly able to communicate? What exactly were his plans then, anyway?

Also, it seems I was wrong about Bellamy/Clarke, but I'm not too upset. There growing relationship feels very natural.

edited 15th May '14 3:46:53 PM by RandomaNama

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#22: May 15th 2014 at 7:58:49 PM

After the fight started weren't there people shooting arrows at them from the trees?

I'm disappointed in the Grounders horses. I was hoping for fire breathing carnivorous unicorns.

On the other hand their leader, if looks are anything to go by, is a vampire so there's that.

Unless the Goth look is still around. Which would indicate a more terrifying dystopia than any of us ever imagined.

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Baby,theImpala Captain Save A Moe from Izaya Orihara's Office Since: Sep, 2013
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#23: May 17th 2014 at 3:32:59 PM

I love the fact that Clarke's character is slipping.

BTW, IDK if the audience is supposed to be 100% sure whether rot not Rodrick From Diary of A Wimpy Kid was justified in shooting at the Grounder in the tree.

To quote the great American philosopher, Sweet Brown, "Ain't nobody got time fo' dat."
Baby,theImpala Captain Save A Moe from Izaya Orihara's Office Since: Sep, 2013
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#24: May 17th 2014 at 3:35:08 PM

Yes, the leader of the Grounders, Soren. She's a princess in every role, I tell you.

How about that ending though? It blew my mind. I didn't think they'd go their what with all of the drama they set up between Diana and Jaha.

To quote the great American philosopher, Sweet Brown, "Ain't nobody got time fo' dat."
tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#25: May 18th 2014 at 5:03:32 AM

You know of course that at least Abby and Diana survived, probably a mook or three as well. And the Ark will probably be okay eventually after as much drama as possible has been milked from their dillema.

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