Huh, I never thought about it before. It's an interesting point that the story was never even about the Par kids having to become super heroes, just their right to self-determination, which Evelyn wanted to take away.
Frasier kept up a joke about Niles' wife Maris never being on screen for eleven seasons.
Man, the examples list for The Ghost has some duds from one-shot media. It's not at all significant that we never saw Hans' brothers in Frozen!
Fresh-eyed movie blogDo you know the TV Tropes, Ron the Death Eater and Unintentionally Unsympathetic? I'm sure Bob is both of these cases for having Tony mindwiped of Violet and keeping the truth of Jack-Jack having powers from Helen.
I'd not go that far. Bob did not specifically ask for Tony to forget Violet: it was just a standard procedure, like they did to Kari, and he had no reason to suspect the minwipe would include every memory Tony had of Violet.
As for hiding Jack Jack powers from his wife, this was not done out of malice but not to bother her during her mission.
So of course it would be quite possible to use these two events to frame Bob as a bad dad and husband, but that would be really far-fetched and not at all in line with how he behaves for the rest of the film (for instance he does try to help his daughter get back with Tony, if very clumsily).
In my eyes, the one time I found Bob's behaviour to be a bit unsympathetic was when he seemed very jealous of his wife being chosen over him. I wonder if there's a bit of Deliberate Values Dissonance there given when the film is supposed to take place.
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.Also, Ron the Death Eater is not a character trope. The one you’re looking for is Took a Level in Jerkass.
And I’d agree that’s not really the case.
I can sort of sympathize with Bob's jealousy. You have to remember that, when he was active, he was the most beloved hero in the world. Or at least in the country. And for years, he had to hide that part of himself from the world and pretend the good he did never happened. So when it finally looks like he'll get the chance to be that man again, it gets pulled out from under him.
And, like others have constantly pointed out, even though Bob groused and complained, he never tried to weasel out of it, or follow after Helen, or give a half-assed parenting effort out of spite. He knuckles down and does the best that he can to be a good dad.
Besides, I'm pretty sure "You'll do a great job so I can do a better one" was a joke.
My various fanfics.I actually really like the way they did Bob. He’s always been a characteristically selfish person, but the last movie taught him to be better. Yet instead of all those flaws just vanishing overnight, this movie shows that they’re still a part of him but he’s actively trying to improve and do the things he needs to do for his family.
Deleted scene from Incredibles 2 featuring Honey, wife of Frozone.
Can't say I really like it either. It still keeps her to a one scene gag that's simply the repeat of the previous one. Plus, in the first film her insistence on keeping Frozone out of his suit was more plausible: it was implied she didn't know a robot attack was going on and thought this was another of her husband's excuses to ditch their date. Here she clearly sees an attack happening (and doesn't seem to have anything planned), so it makes her seem worse to not want him saving lives at this moment.
Just gave this a look on Netflix.
I liked it. They said this time Helen would be the lead, and they meant it.
While the first movie was about Bob, it also felt like it was about the entire family too.
This one still had that, but Helen was definitely the lead.
I gotta say, I like that the villain survived. Makes it very different from the first movie. Although Helen sure had me going when she sent her through the window.
One Strip! One Strip!So how strong do you think Mr. Incredible was in his prime? For... fanfiction purposes.
My various fanfics.Hard to say. We only see a little bit of what he was capable of back in the day.
I mean, he got out of shape during the first movie, but did he seem weaker?
One Strip! One Strip!Well, since we don't really know the source of Robert's powers, we can only assume that he's like a normal person, only much more so, and when humans get older, they get weaker.
My various fanfics.Robert is not that old, I'd say somewhere in his forties. I know firsthand that people at that age are not much weaker than when they were in their twenties. What may suffer a bit are the speed, recovery time after injuries, and joints resistance (as seen with the fight against the Omnidroid). Nothing that some regular exercises can't counter.
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.Unless you're a pro Athlete.
I'd assume that the constant wear and tear would break your body down much faster.
It seems to happen a lot to pro wrestlers for instance, but then again they do some pretty crazy shit deliberately.
One Strip! One Strip!Depends on the nature of his powers. Most depictions of a future Superman say that he only gets stronger over time, and even still it's all relative when you can throw tanks. It does seem that Bob's physique is prone to atrophy, which would imply his exercise montage was more for vanity reasons than being outright incapable of the same stuff. Throwing out his back fighting Omnidroid IX does raise some questions, much like Helen showing disappointment over her wider hips.

Brad Bird includes a LOT of reality nods in dialogue that provide some small commentary. It's one of his signature traits in his movies.
Edited by kyun on Sep 3rd 2018 at 7:20:45 AM