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SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Mar 13th 2014 at 6:36:32 AM

OK, this is kind of a "what do we do with this" thread.

Basically, Seen It A Million Times is a Predefined Messages page. These pages are being namespaced to Administrivia/, but this page in particular seems to be a hybrid trope trope/predefined message page judging by the way it's being used in trope pages, and I don't know for sure whether these ought to be put in Administrivia/ as well - the thread above linked wasn't very clear and is dead now.

So I would like to ask the Repair Shop whether this page should be namespaced, or changed in some other way or left alone. Opinions?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Mar 13th 2014 at 7:09:24 AM

I would say:

  1. Namespace it To Administrivia
  2. Make it only a Predefined Message
  3. Limit it to use in YKTTW; make it clear that it's not to be used as 1) a general example on trope pages or 2) to mean "It's really common" in trope descriptions.
  4. Clear out wicks that use it as a Stock Phrase Trope, or as either of 1) or 2) in the previous point.

edited 13th Mar '14 7:12:26 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space
Captain of USS Bajor
Mar 14th 2014 at 9:49:22 PM

[up]Seconding that.

SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Mar 15th 2014 at 2:47:32 AM

Seems like a reasonable fix proposal. Anyone else?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Mar 21st 2014 at 8:57:09 AM

Bumping for input before it gets buried.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish Relationship Status: -not set
Am I a weirdo?
Mar 21st 2014 at 10:06:09 AM

I also support Maddy's proposal.

Just pretend I wrote something witty here, okay.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Mar 21st 2014 at 11:38:03 AM

I agree, only YKTTW and the repair forums should be using it.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Relationship Status: -not set
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
Mar 21st 2014 at 4:57:44 PM

How much additional discussion before implementation? Single-prop crowner?

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Mar 21st 2014 at 7:05:30 PM

I also agree with that motion.

Mar 22nd 2014 at 1:30:38 AM

So is there an assumption/immediate decision that the trope part of the "hybrid trope/predefined message" isn't worth keeping?

SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Mar 22nd 2014 at 1:35:30 AM

Yes. "This happens quite frequently" is a poor basis for a Trope Trope.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
Apr 16th 2014 at 4:13:02 AM

Madrugada's proposal is sound. Make it so.

SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
May 3rd 2014 at 2:11:05 AM

Bumping. I am good to go for the implementation, but it needs a description rewrite and I currently don't have one.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Jun 3rd 2014 at 5:12:32 AM

OK, let me try to write a description for the new page:

Sometimes, a troper starting a YKTTW thinks they know examples of a trope, but just can't remember any specific examples to add, thus leaving the YKTTW exampleless at the beginning.

Mostentimes, it just means that the YKTTW needs examples added. Sometimes, it's a sign that we are dealing with one of the Omnipresent Tropes.

Please use this page only in the context of YKTTW, not as a reference to frequently used tropes.

Comments?

edited 3rd Jun '14 5:13:59 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Relationship Status: -not set
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
Jun 3rd 2014 at 6:56:53 AM

[tup]

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Jun 3rd 2014 at 10:27:31 AM

[tup]

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Jun 6th 2014 at 3:43:56 AM

Any more input, or can we go ahead?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
Jun 6th 2014 at 4:04:54 AM

Sounds good to me.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Jun 6th 2014 at 6:09:40 AM

OK; I'll implement it this evening at home.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Jun 6th 2014 at 9:43:12 AM

And it's done. Tagged, wicks cleaned and new description in the new page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Jun 6th 2014 at 10:21:07 AM

Nice work. Locking this up.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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