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May 10th 2016 at 11:48:37 PM

I've kept up with some of this storyline thanks to comicstorian.

So spoilers, but:

  • Superman murdering the Joker isn't Gory Discretion Shot here.
  • Superman initially has to deal with Atlantis, crushes them.
  • Then he has to deal with the gods, doesn't win, but Highfather shows up and convinces them to back off.
  • Then Batman teams up with Constantine, who pulls a Batman Gambit on Batman in order to... rescue [Constantine's] daughter and bring her to a safe place.
  • Black Canary almost dies, but Dr. Fate says screw that and takes her to an alternate reality where she can be happy with another Oliver Queen.
  • Doomsday shows up.

Have I got things right so far?

-deep breath- FIGH-TIIIIIIIING GOOOOOOOOLLLD!!!!
May 11th 2016 at 9:46:45 AM

[up] You've got things slightly out of order.

  • Superman kills the Joker
  • Superman VS Atlantis
  • Black Canary getting sent away
  • Team-up with Constantine
  • Greek gods
  • Doomsday shows up

edited 11th May '16 9:47:49 AM by caivu

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May 24th 2016 at 8:14:51 AM

Goddammit! That's it, that's the Moral Event Horizon for me! Fuck you Superman, siccing Zsasz on Alfred, fuuuuuuuuuuuck you!

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May 24th 2016 at 9:49:22 AM

[up]...

Wow.sad

Well, honestly it's not like we didn't know Regime Superman had long since crossed the line. I'm surprised he sent someone else to do the job and didn't just take care of it himself.

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May 24th 2016 at 12:31:11 PM

[up]he did try, but Alfred gave no fucks and said that the headbutt must sting 4 years later.

May 26th 2016 at 6:46:29 AM

Do all of Superman's human friends act as his Morality Chain? Because Lois dying has been the trigger for multiple Superman goes evil Knight Templar stories. And if he kills a human, he goes off the deep end. For some reason. Is The Power of Friendship the only thing that can keep Superman from turning evil?

Jun 7th 2016 at 9:26:28 AM

Well second game has been confirmed now so we get even more comicd set in this world of stupdity

Jun 7th 2016 at 4:13:08 PM

[up] Hey now, we don't know anything about the plot yet. It could be a different Earth. tongue

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Jun 7th 2016 at 5:45:28 PM

wild mass guessThe game sequel will bring so many characters who were killed off in the comics the comics will have to go thru a reboot.wild mass guess

Jun 7th 2016 at 6:05:38 PM

[up] (4) Its' that 'absolute power corrupts' thing. Superman represents absolute power. A common theme is that, if Superman weren't tethered to mankind in the way that he is (see: Superman Red Son) he'd probably be a monster.

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Jun 7th 2016 at 6:11:16 PM

[up][up] Or just do a Blackest Night situation if they keep the same canon.

edited 7th Jun '16 6:11:38 PM by caivu

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Jun 11th 2016 at 6:42:06 AM

So I just started reading this, and I'm very disappointed. So much for "No, Joker, One Bad Day is not all it takes to make someone mad, maybe there isn't any need to crawl under a rock with all the other slimey things when trouble hits. Maybe it was just you, all the time! What were you trying to prove? That deep down, everyone's as ugly as you? You're alone "

Seriously. This was far too easy. I'm okay with Superman going killer, but you need to build that up over time, a nice Trauma Conga Line, some really good and reasonable reasons, some unbeatable threat... I can't imagine Superman not becoming a killer if you, for example put him the 40K universe, because, there, it's the only behaviour that makes sense. You need to establish such a drastic change, not cause it with a reverse Epiphany Therapy.

edited 11th Jun '16 6:44:18 AM by TheHandle

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Jun 11th 2016 at 7:41:04 AM

Okay, WTF kind of way is this to drop a bridge on Dick?

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Jun 11th 2016 at 8:20:27 AM

The game and later events make it clearer that this superman was always evil and was just looking for an excuse to go full dictator

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Jun 11th 2016 at 8:49:46 AM

Yeah, nice retcon. That just makes setting the story in the DCU pointless. I liked it better when it was called Irredeemable.

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Jun 11th 2016 at 10:58:36 AM

I've been following cliffnotes, but where was that established. Seems like Superman lost his shit gradually here.

He lost his family, killing the Joker didn't make him feel any better, and then he saw there were still wars going on. He sees that not using his powers to their full extent led to his family's death, so he decides to go all Superman IV. Batman, knowing that Superman IV was terrible, gets in his way. There's plenty of moments where Superman's impeded.

I mean, it wouldn't be a very interesting story if Superman spent 2 volumes trying to figure out whether he's still Lawful Good or Lawful Evil.

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Jun 11th 2016 at 12:20:47 PM Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Jun 11th 2016 at 5:52:27 PM

Superman's 'always actually evil' stance seems to balance itself with the Injustice! universe Luthor always being a decent guy.

Which doesn't make any sense in-universe, but metawise... maybe? Meh.

Jun 11th 2016 at 11:18:40 PM

How does it not make sense in-unverse?

Jun 11th 2016 at 11:33:33 PM

I still want to know about this "Superman was evil from the beginning" thing.

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Jun 12th 2016 at 12:22:26 PM

[up][up]Because what should logically have one thing to do with the other?

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Jun 12th 2016 at 1:15:43 PM

Yup.

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Jun 13th 2016 at 5:59:31 AM

If I'm honest, I'm way more bothered by Wonder Woman's depiction in this than Superman's. He's at least given sympathetic motives for what he's doing while she's written as mostly a manipulative, bloodthirsty lady Mac Beth type. She always seems to get the short end of the stick in Elseworlds especially ones where she has feelings for Superman one of the many, many reasons I have never liked this ship in any form.

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Jun 13th 2016 at 6:10:36 AM

Why does her friend the pilot get ignored?

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Jun 13th 2016 at 6:23:57 AM

You mean Steve Trevor? Well there's two possible reasons I can think of. One is that there's some troubling implications of her falling for literally the first guy she ever sees and then running away from her home and her duties like a lovesick teenager. The second is that superhero writers generally don't like pairing female heroines with non-superhero male characters.


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