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Deadlock Clock: Aug 2nd 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#26: Apr 7th 2014 at 12:18:43 PM

Assuming I've got 100 examples (I checked 98 pages, while many had multiple references to the trope, there's a bunch of ZCE), then 42% of examples are about Always Save the Girl meaning the hero is doing something dangerous to savea girl, and 20% of the examples are about the definition (Sadistic Choice involving the hero's Love Interest).

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#28: May 10th 2014 at 1:44:00 AM

Crowner of some kind, then?

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#30: Jun 10th 2014 at 7:05:06 AM

[up] [up] What would we be voting on?

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#31: Jun 12th 2014 at 2:00:38 AM

Whether or not to rename the trope based on the displayed misuse, presumably.

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#32: Jul 30th 2014 at 6:52:24 AM

Four clocks has to be some kind of record...this one needs to get done on this clock or it's going bye-bye.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#34: Jul 31st 2014 at 9:22:29 AM

The name isn't the problem. Well, it depends on perspective. The problem is that the name and the description are at odds; the descriptions seems to be saying something specific ("Sadistic Choice involving the hero's Love Interest") while the name is a bit broader ("Do something dangerous to save a girl"). I vote for expanding the definition; changing the name doesn't seem like it would help, unless we change it to something bland like Love Interest Sadistic Choice.

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#35: Jul 31st 2014 at 11:07:07 AM

I think the current description is too narrow to be worthwhile; nothing special about a Sadistic Choice, there.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#36: Jul 31st 2014 at 11:38:14 AM

[up][up] It's not necessarily a Sadistic Choice, though. Depending on the hero, they might not care about the people who die to save their Love Interest.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#37: Jul 31st 2014 at 10:39:04 PM

The current definition is strongly encouraging a Sadistic Choice, definitively one presented by the plot, not always by the villain. The wick check I made shows 52 wicks that did not suggest a Sadistic Choice, and 31 wicks that do suggest one. (52/31)= 1.68 ratio.

Love Interest takes an even worse hit.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#38: Aug 1st 2014 at 11:52:48 AM

Yeah, I think "given the choice to save someone they personally care about, or prevent something worse from happening to other people, the hero chooses the former" would make for a better description.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#39: Aug 1st 2014 at 4:17:18 PM

The "someone they personally care about" is a common, but not statistically significant element from my wick check.

"prevent something worse from happening to other people" is not as common as "the hero puts themselves in danger".

We may need a disambiguation here, or even turn this into an index of tropes.

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#40: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:01:07 AM

Okay, this zombie's been staggering around long enough. *BOOM*

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