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redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#26: Aug 28th 2014 at 12:49:09 PM

[up]But you don't know that it's crap yet. It was still uncalled for. I'm going to repeat the point I made in my last post: why is it acceptable to bash this show without watching it, but if I called My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic an overrated, Merchandise-Driven, diabetes-flavored pile of crap without ever watching it, the entire board would howl with rage?

Once again, this isn't Seth's creation. I knew that people would pin all of the blame on him and it's happening before the show has even premiered! Give the poor guy a break, some of you people act as if he killed your puppy or something.

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#27: Aug 28th 2014 at 12:57:15 PM

[up][up]That still doesn't help dude.

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#28: Aug 28th 2014 at 1:46:34 PM

[up][up]He killed Brian and tried to replace him with some Canon Fodder no one ever wanted. And that's worse.

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#29: Aug 28th 2014 at 2:54:27 PM

He never intended to kill Brian for real and you know it. He even said "Did you really think we would kill him?"

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#30: Aug 28th 2014 at 3:38:41 PM

but if I called My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic an overrated, Merchandise-Driven, diabetes-flavored pile of crap without ever watching it,
Then I would agree with you! waii

(I also agree with not giving Seth McFarlane too much more undeserved attention, sure.)

redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#31: Aug 29th 2014 at 11:50:02 AM

[up]To be fair, my only emotions toward MLP are Hype Aversion and "Why are their heads shaped like that?" I just used it as example. I can't outright bash a show I've never watched.

I'm just sick of people acting as if Seth is this horrible human being because they don't like his work. I'm also sick of him being an Acceptable Target (Sponge Bob too and I don't even give a crap about that show). These shows deserve to be afforded the same amount of respect as everything else here.

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#33: Aug 29th 2014 at 6:20:40 PM

[up][up]Then don't come crying here once we all find out just how crude and dry the jokes are and how much respect Bob's Burgurs actually deserves.

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#34: Aug 29th 2014 at 8:06:41 PM

[awesome] * CLAPS LOUDLY * [awesome]

Even if I had different face, I AM STILL DISGRACED.
redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#35: Aug 30th 2014 at 12:23:47 PM

Then don't come crying here once we all find out just how crude and dry the jokes are and how much respect Bob's Burgurs actually deserves.

I won't, because at least you all will have actually seen the show by then (except for a few people who will bash it just because Seth's name is attached). Until it airs, you all should kindly refrain from badmouthing it, thank you very much. You know nothing about it and no previews have even been released.

Why did Bobs Burgers come up in your post? I'm lost.

Somebody really needs to explain why Seth's shows are such Acceptable Targets around here. What is it that enrages you all so much?

edited 30th Aug '14 12:27:22 PM by redhed311

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#36: Aug 30th 2014 at 12:46:32 PM

Poor writing,annoying and unlikeable characters,ugly animation and art are the main reasons I'm not much of a fan of Mac Farlane's work.

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#37: Aug 30th 2014 at 12:51:50 PM

[up][up] Because he's fucked up several times and they won't let him forget about it.

Also, for those of you who hate Seth's work, remember that he worked at Hanna Barbera on Dexters Laboratory, Johnny Bravo and Cow And Chicken - all shows you may have enjoyed as kids...

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#38: Aug 30th 2014 at 12:58:06 PM

Just because he had done good shows(excluding Cow and Chicken,I am weasel was much better)doesn't mean he's good now.Same could be said about someone like Butch,he did good shows back then but now his shows are shit.

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marston Since: Sep, 2011
#39: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:10:13 PM

I don't have any real interest in this show, but considering all the debate going on here and on other internet places, I suppose I should speak my opinion on Seth. And yes, I know that he's not that much involved with this show. I guess this is probably the best place to talk about it.

I use to like his stuff, but over the years my opinions have changed and now I'm not a fan of most of his stuff anymore. I don't think he's a bad person, and he is a good voice actor and singer, but his actual writing and comedy doesn't appeal to me anywhere near as much as it use to. I still like a couple of his older works, but that's about it. That being said however, the whole Fan Hater attitude towards people who do like him needs to stop. It's really immature and petty, not to mention incredibly mean. I've never liked the whole Fan hater thing, and this is no exception. Different people have different tastes, no reason to bash them just for liking something you don't {Not referring to anyone here in particular, just making a statement}.

edited 30th Aug '14 1:12:58 PM by marston

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#40: Aug 30th 2014 at 5:04:23 PM

Why did Bob's Burgers come up in your post? I'm lost.

People bashing this show due to it's art style and Seth brand jokes is one thing, but people who bashed Bobs Burgers due to just it's art style while it has some really good improved moments is another. I don't know if this show will be as whitty, but people still need to not judge a show on it's style alone.

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redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#41: Aug 31st 2014 at 11:49:57 AM

Poor writing, annoying and unlikeable characters, ugly animation and art are the main reasons I'm not much of a fan of Mac Farlane's work.

Fair enough, but are you referring to ALL of his work or just one specific show? People tend to forget that he has more than one. Also, those traits apply to a number of shows, yet they don't get nearly as much bile spewed in their direction. What separates Seth's shows from these others?

but his actual writing and comedy doesn't appeal to me anywhere near as much as it use to

Understandable, but keep in mind that he hasn't been credited with writing any Family Guy or American Dad episodes since 2005. He has never written any episodes of The Cleveland Show (but I'm pretty sure that his main contribution to that show was funding it and not anything creative). Unless you're referring to his movies, your beef is really with the other writers and showrunners of his shows.

People bashing this show due to it's art style and Seth brand jokes is one thing, but people who bashed Bob's Burgers due to just it's art style while it has some really good improved moments is another.

Agreed. I happen to like Bobs Burgers, even if I think the art is horribly ugly.

but people still need to not judge a show on it's style alone.

Exactly. You people need to stop judging this show when you haven't seen so much as a five second clip. That goes for people on the opposite end of the spectrum too. I don't even know if I'll like this show. I'm withholding judgment until I actually see it.

marston Since: Sep, 2011
#42: Aug 31st 2014 at 11:55:54 AM

[up]Just to clarify, I was referring to his movies too, as well as his comedy style in general. I know he hasn't done much recent with his shows other then voice act and sing.

edited 31st Aug '14 11:57:58 AM by marston

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#43: Aug 31st 2014 at 12:20:45 PM

[up][up]Mainly Family Guy.I can't really get in to Cleavland Show(not because I think its Black Family Guy,just don't find it interesting) and American Dad is okay from what I've seen,but not a show I really like leaving on in like the background.Though I don't find his art style appealing in any of his shows.It looks stiff,very stiff.

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#44: Aug 31st 2014 at 3:43:37 PM

Understandable, but keep in mind that he hasn't been credited with writing any Family Guy or American Dad! episodes since 2005. He has never written any episodes of The Cleveland Show (but I'm pretty sure that his main contribution to that show was funding it and not anything creative). Unless you're referring to his movies, your beef is really with the other writers and showrunners of his shows.

Yeah outside of general stylistic traits I don't believe Macfarlane has actually had much hands-on involvement in the shows he's been credited for creating in the last few years.

Whatever opinion you have of the shows he's not really the person to point fingers at.

redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#45: Sep 1st 2014 at 12:24:47 PM

Mainly Family Guy.I can't really get in to Cleavland Show(not because I think its Black Family Guy, just don't find it interesting) and American Dad is okay from what I've seen, but not a show I really like leaving on in like the background.Though I don't find his art style appealing in any of his shows. It looks stiff, very stiff.

Thanks for clarifying. I had a feeling that the main beef was with Family Guy. I'm not a fan of The Cleveland Show either, for the record.

Because it bears repeating, I'm going to hammer in the point I've been making again:

"This show doesn't look like my cup of tea. I'm going to skip it." - This is an acceptable reaction. You're expressing your opinion respectfully and not accepting it as a fact.

"This show is going to suck! Everything affiliated with Seth Mac Farlane is awful!" - This is not an acceptable reaction. You're judging a show that hasn't aired yet and stating your opinion as a fact.

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#47: Aug 14th 2015 at 4:20:52 PM

Yes, I'm sure someone somewhere thought that was funny.

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#48: Aug 14th 2015 at 4:40:23 PM

This show feels so lazy. I know I shouldn't say that just cause of the trailer, but it really does feel lazy. Cheap animation, ugly art, annoying voices, and the comedy didn't make me laugh once. Not even smile. The closest thing was Peter accidentally driving into the white family's driveway. That's it. I wonder if it will last longer then Cleaveland Show.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#49: Aug 14th 2015 at 6:39:42 PM

I'm not going to say the artstyle is 'ugly', because ugliness is in the eye of the beholder, and most cartoons nowadays are butt-ugly anyway, and what counts is the writing, that can't be truly judged yet, yadda yadda... but I will say it is repetitive compared to its predecessors.

I think the best thing for artists *and* entertainment enterprisers is to keep challenging themselves, and while writing-wise I'm not judging anything yet, visually this feels like more of the same. Mc Farlane and his crew would be better off doing something visually different for a change, but this is more like a visual repeat rut.

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#50: Aug 14th 2015 at 7:55:53 PM

I just wish Seth Macfarlane would do a show that isn't about a Modern Family, especially when the modern family sitcom is getting overdone. If Seth Macfarlane still wants to do comedy, fine. But he should try a new setting, like Greece, or medieval times, or France. Matt Groening did a different premise with Futurama, and that worked out pretty well. Sure, it didn't last as long as the Simpsons, but it's just as funny.


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