Fantastic Four Reboot

I wouldn't really care if a woman was cast as Doom.

One of the interesting things the mangaverse did was have a female Doom.

Granted, it was actually Black Panther's sister who had killed Doom and stolen his neat stuff/country but she was a legitimate threat. We never got to see how she would have reacted to Rrrrrrrrrichardsssss because he was off-planet studying Hell Star Galactus.

Comic books, amirite?

Jealous of Reed's success. It drives Doom. Why should Reed get all the praise? I, Victoria Doom, have done more work and mapped the sub-space highways blah blah blah!

And Magneto could still work as a woman. His motivations are purely a drive for Mutant superiority.

edited 6th Feb '14 10:48:46 AM by GethKnight

Ugghhh.

Doom is one of my favorite villains.

Why are they doing this?

Reed Richards has to fight the seven evil-exes in order to date Sue Storm? Oh my! Sorry, sub-space kind of pavlov'd me.

They're not, dude. It was just a rumor.

edited 6th Feb '14 10:47:57 AM by Bocaj

Maybe some people ship doom and reed and they thought this would be a fun twist on it?

That's good.

Heh, wasn't the intended reference. Just wanted some technobabble.

edited 6th Feb '14 10:50:02 AM by GethKnight

I can only think of Namor and Doom anyway, although I'm sure there's more.

Why are you all saying Doom would be trying to steal Sue Storm away from Reed? That's not actually a thing in the comics, you know. That was just a plot point in the 2005 film.

I thought it was the other way around :p

I would watch the shit out of a rule-63 Fantastic Four movie.

@Bocaj: Dang it, now I want to see Reed Richards vs. The Marvel Universe, starring Michael Cera.

It doesn't, it just that Doom being a female would make the Foe Yay context even more blatant.

It's not blatant already?

They're not quite at this level yet.

Heh heh heh.

I'm somewhat late in returning to the thread; I see that the female Doom has been denied.

I've been amusing myself with the (not terribly serious) idea of a fully-female Fantastic Four movie — in particular one that starts out with the standard set of genders, and involves as part of its plot a switch for all but Sue (well, one could switch her too; it's just another permutation).

In short, either a third party (El Goonish Shive crossover? ;P) or Doom uses mad science on the Four; in the case in which it's Doom that does it, it's a spiteful attempt to break up Sue and Reed (not to steal Sue away, just to arrange that Reed not get to have her). One way or another, Doom is affected too, and the film follows how the characters deal with the change, until in the third act Doom does something in an attempt to return to her previous gender that endangers a large number of people (perhaps the mad science, when turned up too high, causes living flesh to melt) and the Four step in for the climactic showdown. (It occurs to me that the plot isn't entirely dissimilar to that of the 2005 movie.)

Before that, we see how each character handles the change: The Human Torch is at first upset at no longer getting to bed lots of women... until a woman hits on him, and he realises that there's simply a different set of women to hit on now. Sue and Reed have some trouble, but end up concluding that If It's You, It's Okay (much to Doom's frustration). For the Thing... well, compared to having become the Thing, it's not a terribly major change. Doom, however, is furious — as mentioned previously, she ends up being the major threat in the third act.

/fanfic ^^;

I've decided that I will only accept lady Doom if played by Antje Traue.

Though I maintain she would make a better Lucia Von Bardas. Who would probably be changed to Lucian if lady Doom goes through.

Actually Traue as Bardas would be bitching casting.

edited 6th Feb '14 2:52:31 PM by Canid117

Wow, I can't believe it's been almost a decade since the other F4 reboot.

Also, do some people find Doom having his own country a stretch? I mean, if he's the ruler of a small country, why isn't he involved in politics more? It seems like a really stretchy backstory

Its a small Eastern European country that is most notable for having DOOOOOOOOOM rule it.

In the comics, he does show up for political things every so often. Doom in the UN just sitting there in his armor would be hilarious but not much of a story.

I just thought it was weird that a world leader would study with regular people. Then again the prince of Wales (or somewhere else in Britain I'm not obliged to keep track of the royals) trained in the us army. And in the movie no one seemed to make a fuss when he terrorized NYC even though he was a world leader. And the of course the ending was a copy paste of the ending of raiders if the lost arc

edited 7th Feb '14 7:06:44 AM by Xopher001

He wasn't in charge of Latvaria back then. When he was recruited by ESU, DooooOOOOooooOOOOooom was just an incredibly brilliant member of a tribe of latverian gypsies and there was an asshole Baron who ruled the country. The Baron caused the death of Doom's dad when he couldn't heal the Baron's sick wife. LATER: Doom returns to Latvaria after that whole face exploding thing and getting armor and takes over.

edited 7th Feb '14 7:13:17 AM by Bocaj

Well the second movie certainly glossed over THAT

I heard that the second movie wasn't any good.

But anyway, I guess they just decided to go with Doom as evil businessman. I applaud the move because it was very original and had not been seen in any superhero movies before like Spider-Man, Superman, or Batman.