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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#3101: Jun 24th 2017 at 2:12:25 PM

[up][up]I think a movie could be done, it just has to have the right tone. The first movies (like a lot of superhero movies in the early 2000's) was a weird mix of being too silly while also somehow downplaying the more fantastic elements in favor of trying to make it more "realistic" (hence Doom being a wimpy American businessman and Galactus being a fucking cloud). The reboot went so far in the direction of being Darker and Edgier that there were pretty much nothing tying it to the FF other than the names, aside from just not being a good movie period (I maintain that premise could've been a good Body Horror sci-fi movie even if it sucked as an FF movie).

You need to get the right balance of not going too far in the realm of stupidity, while not downplaying the sense of fun and weirdness that made them work to begin with.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#3102: Jun 24th 2017 at 4:48:29 PM

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That's a good observation. Fantastic Four needs to have a balance of darkness and comedy like the Guardians Of The Galaxy movies.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#3103: Jun 25th 2017 at 2:01:16 PM

Yeah I don't think the Cold War sensibilities are necessarily going to be a leash on successful adapations of the FF. My mom is a fan of the original comics and having gone through them as a child I never got this sense out of them. And I'm sure it'll be the same for others. It's all in the execution, and of the ones that've come out none of them have really gone with the right approach.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#3104: Jun 25th 2017 at 2:24:15 PM

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Your mom sounds like an awesome long time comic book fan.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#3105: Jun 25th 2017 at 8:58:02 PM

Yeah she was a big comic nerd in her childhood. Doesn't really follow them that closely anymore but she was really into Disney and early Marvel including FF, Spider-Man, and the Original Six X-Men.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#3106: Jun 25th 2017 at 9:20:07 PM

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It's interesting for someone to know about the Disney comics since they are more obscure in the America than Europe.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#3107: Jun 26th 2017 at 9:55:22 AM

Pretty sure Carl Barks and Don Rosa comics were also popular in the US. Anyway, we're getting off topic.

So what are the chances of Fox going forward with the fourth FF reboot in the next two years?

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#3108: Jun 26th 2017 at 11:20:18 AM

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I would say just get the rights to make FF, and give them a good movie they deserve.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#3109: Jun 26th 2017 at 11:21:39 AM

I don't see much enthusiasm on the public's part. Maybe if they actually managed to give a shit this time and be bothered to make a good movie, but not this soon. I'd definitely give it more of a break than just two years.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#3110: Jun 26th 2017 at 11:50:04 AM

I expect Fox to take the maximum amount of time and then at the very least release an ashcan copy just to screw over Marvel and the viewing public.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#3112: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:18:24 PM

[up][up] I doubt it. Fox is still beholden to its shareholders and even a cheap movie to keep the rights costs money.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#3113: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:25:13 PM

[up]Roger Corman's $1 million ash can copy was a thing. They'd do it.

edited 26th Jun '17 2:25:31 PM by Beatman1

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#3114: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:40:31 PM

Roger Corman was a B movie producer known for making movies on micro budgets and the entire project was instigated by an independent producer who held the rights to the franchise. Corman was also ultimately bought out after the film was released, meaning he made back all the money he'd spent, plus a profit.

A studio like Fox isn't gonna spend a mere million dollars that is not gonna cost them anything in the long run. They spent 125 million on the last one, after all.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#3115: Jun 26th 2017 at 4:14:30 PM

Well they say that the third time's the charm. Second reboot means it's the third attempt at a sustainable product. This time it will be record shatteringly good, the likes of which would make Orson Welles wish Citizen Kane had been a superhero movie.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#3116: Jun 26th 2017 at 4:59:55 PM

Roger Corman's $1 million ash can copy was a thing. They'd do it.
The Roger Corman movie wasn't made by Fox, it was made by Constantin Film, who technically still hold the rights to FF today. They just teamed up with Fox to make the mid-2000s and 2015 movie.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#3117: Jun 26th 2017 at 9:58:38 PM

Anyway, it is one thing to do a low budget movie in order to hold onto the rights for future use, it is an entirely different thing to sink money into a brand which has been poisoned already and is unlikely to create a profit anytime soon.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#3118: Jun 27th 2017 at 6:28:33 AM

Hey, at least in the later there's special effects houses, prop companies, teamsters, caterers, filming crew, etc... who are getting a paycheck! So there's some good out of this!

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#3119: Jun 27th 2017 at 7:10:07 AM

Maybe but when a studio has too many flops it forces them to shut down. A lot of movie studios are having issues with high profile box office failures. I don't know if Fox is in that situation but they need to be careful.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#3120: Jun 27th 2017 at 7:58:27 PM

In other F4 news:

Anybody play Marvel Heroes?

If anyone does, then get ready to kiss the Four (and the Silver Surfer) good bye.

It gets worse. Any costumes related to the F4, such as Future Foundation costumes, Bag-Man!Spider-Man, and so on are getting the boot.

sad

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#3121: Jun 27th 2017 at 8:00:29 PM

Only for buying. People with that stuff already can keep it.

Though it's marvel Heroes, so hard to get excited about that turd,

ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#3122: Jul 1st 2017 at 11:39:52 PM

Apparently, this one is going to focus on the Reed kids.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#3123: Jul 1st 2017 at 11:54:27 PM

"hence Doom being a wimpy American businessman and Galactus being a fucking cloud"

Maybe is just me...but I kinda like Galatus as cloud, it make him feel more like force that eat planet than this weird guy who eat because.....why he does again?

I mean, I never get a feel I should be scared by galatus, the only time I kinda like the chararter was in the cartoon and that was because of is voice actor sounding cool.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#3124: Jul 1st 2017 at 11:55:11 PM

I also don't really mind Cloud Galactus that much.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#3125: Jul 2nd 2017 at 12:00:50 AM

He eats planets for the same reason we eat food, sustenance.


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