Hi
Bingo.
Should probably be expanded to include other "feminizing" suffixes, like -ette. And maybe versions from other languages like -ko in Japanese. There's nothing special about ella, and having separate tropes for each is pointless. Maybe masculine versions too?
Still limited to nameifying descriptions of course.
edited 10th Apr '14 12:26:11 PM by Clarste
Those feminizing suffixes aren't used in the same way that -Ella is. They're generally used to feminize male names. Not nouns or adjectives. We would have to make sure that it was being used for things like Bayonetta and not for Brigette.
edited 10th Apr '14 5:50:33 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickI said "still limited to nameifying descriptions". Anything that's misuse is simply misuse and dealt with as such. That's not worth noting. Also I disagree that -ella is special in this regard. Smurfette is a smurf who is female. "Smurf" is not a masculine name, it's a description of their species. You yourself just gave the "Bayonetta" example which is not -ella. -ko is also extremely commonly used to create feminine names out of nouns or descriptions.
edited 10th Apr '14 9:27:28 PM by Clarste
I don't think naming conventions require a narrative. Names can be chosen to inspire a certain future, or they can be picked while in that future, for the same purpose as in fiction.
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Technically, that makes it used in both Real Life and storytelling. It's not an exclusive either-or question.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanYeah, I think even if we broaden it to more suffixes we need to keep the core idea:
"Adding a feminine suffix to an existing non-name word in order to create a female name that describes the character."
Ex: Cinderella = Cinder + Ella. So Cinderella is a girl who spends a lot of times in the cinders.
EX: Bayonetta = Bayonet + Etta. A weaponized name for a weaponized woman.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickI think doing so to typically masculine names is at least a related trope.
For example, it can be used to signify that the character is a Distaff Counterpart to another character.
It can also be related to Family Theme Naming in which the sister has a femalized version of her brother's name.
Yeah, doing it to something that already is a name is different from doing it to something that isn't. Bayonet, Vampire, and Cruel aren't names of their own, but with the suffix they become names with a very obvious meaning. By the way, we didn't have that last one.
I'd be more inclined to expand it to including male equivalents than to include male names turned female, though I can't really think of any example that would fit that anyway.
edited 11th Apr '14 12:19:52 PM by AnotherDuck
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Okay, reading Another Duck's argument, I think we make another trope that's a Sister Trope to this one.
edited 11th Apr '14 12:18:52 PM by KarjamP
Exactly.
- Take Barbarella. She's a barbarian with boobs. Hence the -ella at the end. Barbarella.
- Cinderella: a girl who cleans and is covered in soot all the time. She's like a chimney sweep, but with boobs. Cinders + ella
- Or Citronella. It's a bug-repellant candle. With boobs, I imagine.
edited 11th Apr '14 2:33:41 PM by Lakija
