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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#15501: Feb 25th 2019 at 5:18:33 PM

IIRC, we got a couple last season. They just all died, because network television logic is "screw introducing interesting one-shot characters without killing all of them for tension" I guess.

The musician Ralph fell for but who sadly was not Sue Dibny is the first to come to mind.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 25th 2019 at 5:18:41 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#15502: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:00:02 PM

no ones talking about the flash blowing their budget for the rest of the season with grodd vs king shark tonight

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#15503: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:22:24 PM

Guess they were too blown away by Joe's return.

Jokes aside, I'm really happy we a got full fight. No matter what else happens this season I'll be content with that.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#15504: Mar 5th 2019 at 9:05:28 PM

The biggest. The baddest. The king.

Nobody's jumping over this shark baby!

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#15505: Mar 6th 2019 at 11:36:03 AM

I was hoping to see Joe and terrified I was looking at death flags.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#15506: Mar 6th 2019 at 11:59:09 AM

I admit, I'm a little worried about Joe.

That being said, Cicada has been pretty consistent in not attacking normal humans. Even when he took Iris, it was purely to use her as bait to lure out others. It was the same with coming after Joe.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#15508: Mar 12th 2019 at 1:20:24 PM

Interesting.

I've been enjoying this season, but it still feels like the show is treading water. They should have defeated Cicada in the 100th episode and then moved on to a different villain. And while Season 3 and 4 had some good episodes, overall, they were a mess.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#15509: Mar 12th 2019 at 9:09:02 PM

Wow, when things go wrong for these guys, they go wrong with style huh?

You convince Cicada to take the cure, nullify his powers, and who shows up to ruin your fun?

Motherfucking Future Cicada!!!!

I'm impressed Team Flash. You botched things, and you did it in a spectacular manner.

...I blame Nora.tongue

And I mean that literally since if Grace hadn't figured out who she was as a child, she might have never become the new Cicada.

Now the only question left is how did she even come back?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#15510: Mar 12th 2019 at 9:15:59 PM

I love that this was an actually tense episode and nobody did anything wrong and yet they still lost because of something outside their control.

Also, if you see the preview for next week's episode, you'll see that Future Grace probably came back in a time machine like that one Thawne had built in Season One. So perhaps Thawne sent her to the future, too, like Nora, and told her exactly when to strike?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#15511: Mar 12th 2019 at 9:26:38 PM

You think Thawne is playing both sides? I mean, I can buy it. I can even figure out the reason: he does love fucking with Barry.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#15512: Mar 13th 2019 at 6:21:02 PM

Brilliant episode. My guess: Kid-Grace is gonna be the key to defeat Future-Grace.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#15513: Mar 14th 2019 at 10:12:18 PM

It's funny. Both Supergirl and Flash are doing big "the archenemy shows himself" episodes in the span of one week.

I love that this was an actually tense episode and nobody did anything wrong and yet they still lost because of something outside their control.

You know, I hadn't thought of that. Nice that they finally nailed that. They've always had a problem with Diabolus ex Machina, but this one feels like it was set up and executed pretty well.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#15514: Mar 14th 2019 at 10:15:06 PM

Yeah, like "A future version of Cicada's niece who also became a killer comes back in time to stop the operation" is so far out there, that it's not something that anyone would have guessed. And yet it still works because a) they already foreshadowed that Grace would turn into Future Cicada and b) it's The Flash. Time travel is gonna fuck up everybody.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#15515: Mar 14th 2019 at 10:17:47 PM

I keep remembering last season, where Devoe would just... not lose, for reasons that were never set up, practically no reason at all. Or even earlier this season, where Cicada would do the same.

This actually feels like a nice plot twist that was built up well.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 14th 2019 at 10:18:41 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#15516: Mar 14th 2019 at 10:41:44 PM

Yeah, Devoe was just a Villain Sue all around.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#15517: Mar 15th 2019 at 9:00:20 AM

apparently is a few episodes we are gonna get Godspeed. His costume looks sweet too

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#15518: Mar 15th 2019 at 4:16:15 PM

In another season I would've been happy, but why now? Already so much going on. Save it for next Season.

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#15519: Mar 17th 2019 at 6:24:00 PM

[up]he's in the future, barry meets him when he learns about thawne mentoring nora and goes to talk to him

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#15520: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:55:14 PM

Welp, things keep blowing up in people's faces.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#15521: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:39:21 PM

[up]

And now I'm starting to get the joke.

The episode is even called Time Bomb.

Well, somebody get the slowpoke picture. I deserve it.

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#15522: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:45:52 PM

‘My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#15523: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:09:54 PM

Oh man. Oh damn. This episode was good.

First: I'm glad that Barry finally explained that keeping secrets is bad. Like, he and everyone around him should totally know that from the fact that they kept so many secrets at first. And it always blew up in their faces. But hey, Nora is her father's daughter, so she had to do the same.

And man, did it blow up in her face. When she's begging Sherloque to stop talking, god, that's when you start feeling for her. And of course Barry would lock her in the Pipeline — Thawne is his one big blindspot, the one person he absolutely hates. Which is what makes what Thawne did so masterful — he manipulated the one person that would cause Barry the most pain.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#15524: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:14:34 PM

We still don't actually know why Thawne did this...or do we?

I miss a few minutes here and there, so if he said I just helped you to fuck with your dad's head, and I knew this would all go pear shaped, then yeah. That's Thawne.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#15525: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:20:09 PM

He might have also directed/helped Grace get his Time Sphere and go back in time. Back in Season 1 (and in Legends of Tomorrow), the Time Sphere does need a speedster to power it up to travel through time. So it's either Thawne or Godspeed; the real question is why Grace would work with them.

Also: Nora's journal entries are hilarious. Apparently, in the future, Subway is a yoga empire, there's a Chicken Plague, and Game of Thrones doesn't actually end in 2019.


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