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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#10276: Jun 18th 2016 at 10:37:12 AM

You could sense his humor in a few of the lines. Other than that, it was just a good episode in general. And apparently he's a pleasure to work with, because the entire cast loved the whole experience.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#10277: Jun 18th 2016 at 11:01:10 AM

His talk with the Speed Force reminded me of some of the more existential works of his, but it was done in such a way that it never came off as overly preachy, but more introspective. Which tends to be how Kevin Smith handles them.

I am down for more Kevin Smith directed Flash episodes. Just to shake things up once a season.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10278: Jun 18th 2016 at 11:57:41 AM

The thing is, Kevin Smith is known more as a writer than he is as a director. Most of his movies he both wrote and directed — his direction is good, but not fancy, so you won't really notice anything when he directs an episode of television (unlike, say, Joss Whedon, who really likes to include The Oner). It's his scripts that are usually filled with his brand of humor.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#10279: Jun 18th 2016 at 12:52:39 PM

I stopped giving a crap about Arrow after Season 2.

I had really just been watching it in the firs place to get the set up for Flash, was intending to swap between Arrow and Flash when I got to that...... then I started hearing all the stuff that was going on with Arrow.. and was already getting tired of a lot of it's shit so... yeah haven't watched it yet aside from the episodes that are one half of a Flash story.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#10280: Jun 18th 2016 at 1:07:04 PM

Not to mention his writing is filled with dialogue ABOUT comic books and laced with a lot of network tv inappropriate discussions. He talks about being hired to write a Superman movie in the 90's and even he's not sure why, even though his movies have a lot of comic book references he wonders why an executive would hear a conversation about a Kryptonite condom in a movie and think "The guy who wrote that is perfect for Superman."

His directing style is pretty generic but in some ways that worked in the episode's favor. Bringing in an outside person like that can create a really weird dissonance because they want to add all sorts of new and different touches, like gratuitous lens flare or make the entire episode like Birdman or have a bunch of extreme close ups, etc. The Flash episode itself was just slightly off from the norm, allowing any quirks to seem intentional rather than a guest director who just isn't playing by the house style rules.

Ellowen My Ao3 from Down by the Bay Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#10281: Jun 18th 2016 at 1:43:48 PM

Just when I should be focusing on my senior thesis, I suddenly got inspired for fic again. working on a flash leverage crossover right now.

Got a degree in Emotional trauma via fictional characters aka creative writing. hosting S'mores party in Hell for fellow (evil) writers
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#10282: Jun 19th 2016 at 10:38:41 AM

Remember, this is a potential storyline. Iris West is actually from a thousand years into the future.

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Ellowen My Ao3 from Down by the Bay Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#10283: Jun 19th 2016 at 12:11:40 PM

I mean there are 50 odd years of plotlines they could use, I doubt we'll see this one.

also. they chose Firestorm's theme instead of a Flash theme or an Iris theme which makes no sense to me I mean " the nuclear man" is one of the prettiest pieces but why use it and not "Best friends since childhood" or "I love you,Iris" or "reveal to Iris" or even "eddie and Iris"

yes I know it's a nitpick but I can't help it, I've listened to the score so many times I can't help but pick out where they fit.

Got a degree in Emotional trauma via fictional characters aka creative writing. hosting S'mores party in Hell for fellow (evil) writers
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10284: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:23:28 PM

I'd be amused if Flashpoint had the effect of fixing a lot of little things to make way for Wally and Bart, like inexplicably making Linda a couple years younger, making Girder an enemy of Wally instead of Barry, keeping Gideon Grey from aging and/or dying.

Ellowen My Ao3 from Down by the Bay Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#10285: Jun 19th 2016 at 4:26:42 PM

I'm still hoping it can inexplicably bring back Laurel and Bette. they don't even have to do much on the shows, they just have to be mentioned to be alive and kicking evil's ass off screen somewhere.

Got a degree in Emotional trauma via fictional characters aka creative writing. hosting S'mores party in Hell for fellow (evil) writers
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#10286: Jun 19th 2016 at 4:28:43 PM

[up][up]Gideon Grey? I didn't know Flash had a crossover with Zootopia! tongue

edited 19th Jun '16 4:30:37 PM by Eagal

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#10287: Jun 19th 2016 at 5:25:22 PM

I'm guessing this Flashpoint will result in Eddie coming back to life.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10288: Jun 19th 2016 at 5:26:18 PM

I doubt it.

Mostly because I don't see what the point would be.

edited 19th Jun '16 5:26:43 PM by VeryMelon

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#10289: Jun 19th 2016 at 5:26:40 PM

A lot of things will happen, the question is what will stick.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#10290: Jun 19th 2016 at 6:09:37 PM

I can't think of too much I want retconned in Flash now that Pied Piper is more like his comic counterpart. Other than bringing back Captain Cold.

I just want most of Arrow retconned.

edited 19th Jun '16 7:31:47 PM by Beatman1

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#10291: Jun 19th 2016 at 6:10:54 PM

I kind of want Cold to go to Starling for a bit, and have Lance go to Central.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10292: Jun 19th 2016 at 6:25:44 PM

[up][up]You want Arrow retconned, but don't want Arrow retconned?

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#10293: Jun 19th 2016 at 6:28:11 PM

[up]I think it was a slip up. The first Arrow was suppose to be Flash based on their post.

edited 19th Jun '16 6:28:55 PM by Halberdier17

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#10294: Jun 19th 2016 at 7:31:35 PM

[up]Damn these typos. It's been fixed.

And I want Arrow's last two seasons completely retconned out of existence.

illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
X-14: Killer Cheese
#10295: Jun 19th 2016 at 7:39:58 PM

FYI, spoilers for season 1 finale.

Okay, can someone explain how Time Remnants are supposed to work? I thought it was just that Time Travelers have a buffer period before getting affected by time shenanigans, so Thawne didn't have his ancestor dying catch up to him until the point we see him die, which is later in his personal timeline. But all of the sudden Zoom and Barry can just spawn Time Remnant clones? Are the clones just time traveling in from the future (/an alternate timeline)?

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#10296: Jun 19th 2016 at 8:16:20 PM

That's how I saw it.. at least in the finale. Essentially they travel back in time, creating two of them at once, then the one from the future dies after their task is done.... and somehow it does not cause a paradox when the 'present' version doesn't go back in time after that.

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#10297: Jun 19th 2016 at 8:35:01 PM

And keep in mind the Speed Force gives speedsters the power to tell any and all laws of physics and causality to kindly fuck off. tongue

Ellowen My Ao3 from Down by the Bay Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#10298: Jun 19th 2016 at 8:35:39 PM

so Speedsters are cats. got it.

Got a degree in Emotional trauma via fictional characters aka creative writing. hosting S'mores party in Hell for fellow (evil) writers
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#10299: Jun 19th 2016 at 8:46:45 PM

[up]Well this explains Cheetah being boosted to Flash's level that one time.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#10300: Jun 20th 2016 at 12:03:47 AM

It's a theory that avoids the Temporal Paradox, that the act of time traveling protects someone from certain changes they make to the timeline. Thus they come from a timeline where they time traveled, and there is a timeline where they didn't time travel and remain in the linear timeline. In the episode where the Reverse Flash returns, they explain via handy Back to the Future-esque diagram that time traveling shunts someone outside of the timeline and they will always land in a certain time period regardless of the changes made to the regular timeline, including if they were wiped from the timeline. The parallel to this is the Time Wraiths, who are trying to correct those timeline problems. Hunter was vague on how far back he went to create Jay Garrick, but in the finale Barry time traveled mere nano-seconds into the past, creating a time remnant completely aware of the situation.


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