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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10101: May 24th 2016 at 10:31:21 PM

DOCTOR MANHATTAN WAS BEHIND IT ALL ALONG?!
Well, that would be just silly.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#10102: May 24th 2016 at 11:16:25 PM

But Flashpoint was terrible

Did we watch the same film?

EDIT: Alright, alright, realized it as soon as I posted it, but because that clip is funny, I'll just throw the actual clip from Flashpoint Paradox right here:

edited 24th May '16 11:17:20 PM by Soble

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#10103: May 24th 2016 at 11:16:58 PM

[up][up] That would be dumb, especially if it was just an attempt to salvage an unpopular continuity by bringing a beloved, popular legacy character who was shafted by the editors back into existence.

Oh, and absolve the asshole who accidentally wrote him out of existence by pinning the blame on somebody else.

[up] Flashpoint the movie was pretty good. Flashpoint the comic book was terrible.

But then, the big summer crossovers are always terrible.

edited 24th May '16 11:22:10 PM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#10104: May 25th 2016 at 1:14:48 AM

After seeing the finale, I'll say that the emotions are more or less right on but it gets too big for itself. Too many important plot points are spelled out in the finale and too many things are rushed. I liked the convergence of the various storylines, all sorts of hints throughout the season reach fruition.

But they didn't allow nearly enough time to let these plot points develop. The revelation that Zoom had been visiting other parts of the multiverse was very last-minute, as well as the declaration that Earth-1 is the convergence Prime Earth. What, exactly, the doomsday machine was going to do was opaquely explained. It went from "destroy everything" to "destroy everything but this universe" and didn't really change the stakes. And it still doesn't explain how Hunter had any knowledge of Fake!Jay's fling with Caitlyn.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#10106: May 25th 2016 at 8:24:04 AM

So...Flashpoint to start season 3?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10107: May 25th 2016 at 8:36:13 AM

Too many important plot points are spelled out in the finale and too many things are rushed.
Yep. Suddenly, it was "Zoom stole this Magnatar thing that could literally destroy the Multiverse!" without any sort of warning.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#10108: May 25th 2016 at 9:01:54 AM

And he can somehow open up dimension rifts himself, and can make time remnants with no difficulty whatsoever.

Yea, they just kinda threw up their hands near the end there.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10109: May 25th 2016 at 9:09:10 AM

Well, the time remnants thing, we knew about. But yeah, suddenly he can open rifts by himself. That was never explained.

Although I guess if you figure he somehow got to Earth-3 that way, so maybe.

edited 25th May '16 9:09:39 AM by alliterator

Cross (Don’t ask)
#10110: May 25th 2016 at 9:13:48 AM

The breach thing makes sense if you know Barry was capable of doing it before he gave up his speed.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#10111: May 25th 2016 at 9:21:44 AM

And it still doesn't explain how Hunter had any knowledge of Fake!Jay's fling with Caitlyn.

Fake!Jay was only a day or so younger than Zoom. The vast majority of the time he was at STAR Labs and getting close to Caitlyn, it was Zoom. He only did the time remnant thing at the end.

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Ellowen My Ao3 from Down by the Bay Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#10112: May 25th 2016 at 9:21:56 AM

and they conveniently ignored the whole " Cisco's powers are PIVOTAL to defeating zoom" thing we were promised. sigh.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10113: May 25th 2016 at 9:27:28 AM

Well, his powers were pivotal in the first attempt, where Cisco opened the breach to push him into.

SpaceWolf from The Other Rainforest Since: Apr, 2012
#10114: May 25th 2016 at 10:19:52 AM

Wait... If Arrowverse!E-3 is the home of actual!Jay Garrick, what's Supergirl's world? Is it still E-3, or is it something like E-4? Barry never told anyone about Supergirl's earth, so nobody ever explored it beyond National City. I guess that it's possible that it's E-3.

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#10115: May 25th 2016 at 10:36:27 AM

I've been going with Earth-Girl, besides Jay can't be from there since her and Superman are pretty much the only superheroes there with the confirmation there is no "Flash".

edited 25th May '16 10:37:13 AM by Cross

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10118: May 25th 2016 at 1:51:33 PM

Yeah, I doubt the number of tweets corresponds to how well the writing is. Especially since the Flash finale seemed to shit the bed at the last moment.

DeanCole Since: Jun, 2015
#10119: May 25th 2016 at 3:33:00 PM

Their still a chance of them not actually pulling the trigger on Flashpoint since we dont see Barry going back.So i wait until season 3 preview before beileving it

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#10120: May 25th 2016 at 4:12:48 PM

Wait why do people think Future!Barryfrom the season one finale was telling Barry not to save his mother due to time paradoxes? The way I interpreted that was that he was telling Barry not to save his mother because he (Future!Barry) was going to save their mother so Barry didn't need to worry about it. The fact that they showed Barry giving a thumbs up to his past self in this finale kind of furthers that interpretation as well.

edited 25th May '16 4:15:07 PM by Chariot

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#10121: May 25th 2016 at 4:13:02 PM

[up] (4) So the Arrow team interacts with the fanbase more then.

edited 25th May '16 4:14:03 PM by Soble

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#10122: May 25th 2016 at 4:31:36 PM

Seeing how things turned out, that's not considered a good thing.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#10123: May 25th 2016 at 5:19:31 PM

Yeah my guess is we will see Barry go back 1 more time to Nora's death to tell himself not to save her after seeing how bad things get. And I'm guessing much like Flashpoint brought Wildstorm into the DCU, this will bring Supergirl into the DCW.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#10124: May 25th 2016 at 5:53:39 PM

That whole tweet comparison is nonsense. Everyone has a different writing method and tweeting is not exactly the biggest brainpower expending activity. In a writers room of 10-12 people, that kind of output could easily be matched by 2 or 3 avid twitter users.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#10125: May 25th 2016 at 5:58:06 PM

Its a joke, jeez.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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