Gotham

Jeremiah's plan was pointlessly complicated.

sounds like a good joker then

Someone on the characters page is really certain Jeremiah is going to be the Joker in the future.

I feel like using Jeremiah as the Joker this early is a misstep that will only distance the character from his rivalry with Batman, but Gotham stopped caring about continuity two seasons ago.

It's a little disappointing because using Jerome to set up Jeremiah as the "real" Joker was a brilliant move. I feel like they're going to use up Jeremiah and introduce a third Joker that will become Bruce's enemy in the future.

I kinda want Jeremiah to kill off Tabby because I really don’t like her and want her to die.

Same, but with Barbara instead.

Yeah her too. Forgot about her damn

Barbara and Tabitha have both REALLY overstayed their welcome.

edited 4th May '18 3:08:56 PM by Forenperser

At least Babs got Ra's to come back.

Agreed, especially with Babs. Also Firefly and Freeze too.

Finally someone says it before I did thank you!!!

Well, that happened...

Well, I think I noticed something: Bruce is doused with fear gas and thinks he sees Alfred getting infected with Joker gas. But when he sees "Alfred" attacking him, Selina discovers on the monitor that the "Alfred" Bruce is fighting is actually Jeremiah's follower, and the real Alfred is locked up in the closet, where she rescues him. Pretty scary.

Waiting to find out if the show got renewed is killing me. But I refuse to listen to any defeatists until I see hard proof that it is cancelled.

http://deadline.com/2018/05/gotham-renewed-fifth-final-season-fox-new-superhero-1202384012/

Getting one last season. Seems to be a ahorter one

Fine by me, it getting anything was lucky. Now it can have one last tightly plotted season to wrap everything up.

edited 13th May '18 5:55:02 PM by Mullon

Well, that's cool. I'd be a shame if they spent all this time setting up No Man's Land only to not get to do anything with it.

I really have to give props to Cameron Monaghan's performance. It's so easy to forget that he's played both Jokers because the two of them are so different. The slow, subtle way Jeremiah slowly tilts his head or turns his eyes makes him seem like something truly inhuman. And When He Smiles... wait, that's not right.

Seems like Executive Meddling is the reason Jerome and/or Jeremiah aren't Joker (and didn't have green hair). I guess it all worked out ok in the end though.

Y'know, even Penguin is starting to feel old and tired, I mean, I'm glad it gets a Lampshade Hanging from Butch of all people...but even so...I hope something is done. Shame this happened, 'cuz Robin Lord Taylor still gives such a good performance.

so we got a pretty decent set up for next season

Got-HAM has gotten crazy!

Well, damn, good thing they got that next season.

That is definitely an intense episode to end the season on. Though considering the conversation on the roof I find hard to believe that Gordon won't be able to figure out that Batman is Bruce Wayne.

I've always believed Gordon should know who Batman is, but not say it out loud.

What I don't get is why no one considers curing Jeremiah. Everyone knows he was gassed by his brother but they all act like he's fully in control of his own actions. It's not the first time they've dealt with people under a crazy juice influence.