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I can sort of figure out the definition when digging and analyzing that.
Freudian Slip seems to be trying to be self demonstrating by doing some, uh, "adult jokes".
Could someone please add translations (perhaps in note form) to the French phrases in Gratuitous French? I'm fine with keeping the French, as long as we have a quick and easy way of knowing what it means.
"Groundhog Day" Loop is a trope that is attracting attempts to make it self-demonstrating by duplicating the examples. It's been reverted once before by Discar on the grounds that it doubles the work and neccesitates a split twice as fast (it's currently at 390k). I would agree that this is a case where it becomes more of a hassle than it's worth.
Looks like both of those have been fixed now.
Yep, it was discussed in the discussion tab as well.
pictures for sad children is entirely written in lowercase. Opinions on its appropriateness?
edited 21st Oct '14 3:11:18 AM by SeptimusHeap
I am not sure on the witty quality of something where the creator has had something that damaging happen to them that recently.
I find it kind of annoying, but it doesn't make the page unreadable.
Translation Train Wreck has two page descriptions: one self-demonstrating, and one "proper English" one. It makes the page longer than it needs to be, and the nature of the trope means the self-demonstrating version is completely unreadable. I'd say it should be shuffled off to its own subpage.
The description of Speech Bubbles has a very bad case of self-demonstration; it's neither clear nor concise, and too crudely executed to be witty. It seems to have been written back when color markup was still functional.
Oh boy... SelfDemonstrating.Captain Falcon is an all-caps Out of Character mess. Yeah, I get it, he screams "Falcon Pawnch!" in Super Smash Bros., but he isn't a screaming ultra-Johnny Bravo. I'm almost tempted to cutlist that mess.
edited 13th Nov '14 5:40:56 AM by Elbruno
I believe that page was either the reason the color markup was instituted or the reason it survived an earlier attempt to kill it.
I think that belongs here.
Hi there :) Septimus Heap asked me to bring a trope here a month ago but I didn't see the message until now (lucky that I happened upon the trope again!)
The Rage Against the Author trope is currently near-unreadable and I genuinely had no idea what it was trying to demonstrate, until I found the Laconic version which does provide the relevant information:
Rage Against The Author: "Characters have some beef with their writer."
This is my intuitive understanding of the trope as well (ie. it's what I was searching for). Shall I just leave this here?
I agree, it's very confusing.
I could have sworn that page used to be less obnoxious, but a brief look through the history shows the description's been the same since at least 2013, so maybe I've just grown less able to stomach that kind of thing. Either way, though, it's also fairly unclear, which is definitely not a good thing.
It used to read like this, a loooooong time ago. (That's the last non-Self Demonstrating version the Internet Archive has.)
Zero Wing has a complaint in the discussion page that the current description is completely unreadable.
Half a year later, nobody seems to have done anything about Rage Against the Author. I'd consider doing it myself, but it's so bad I don't know what can be done other than rewriting the entire description from scratch, which seems like the kind of thing that can get you into trouble.
Just do it, I would say.
I think The Joker should be made into its own page instead of being a redirect to the self demonstrating page.
And the first person is spilling over into the subpages, or at least The Joker.
Here's an odd one: DarthWiki.Darth Vader. Not sure what to do here because Darth Wiki, but Vader doesn't really have a distinct voice.
Opposite Day and Laconic.Opposite Day.
The Joker is now a separate page.
The rest of the subpages need to have the first person removed, though.
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