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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand
May 28th 2019 at 3:22:51 PM

I wonder what happened to the alien sci-fi genre once people learned they actually exist

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kkhohoho Deranged X-Mas Figure from The Insanity Pole Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Deranged X-Mas Figure
May 28th 2019 at 4:10:18 PM

[up]Probally stayed the same.

World outside your window and all that.

FYI but I really hate that particular mentality. No matter how you slice it it's not our world anymore, so they should stop treating it like it is. Face the facts and roll with it

Sonic and the Freedom Fighters — Blue Horizon: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12583620/1/Sonic-and-the-Freedom-Fighters-Blue-Horizon
Aleistar Stuff that Dreams are made of from the collective unconscious Relationship Status: A teenager in love
Stuff that Dreams are made of
May 28th 2019 at 4:18:36 PM

[up] Like how in Watchmen pirates have long since overtaken superheroes as the most popular comics genre.

The work of writing had always been, for me, the work of enduring failure. - Ta-Nehisi Coates
May 28th 2019 at 9:23:42 PM

heroes in crisis #9 only ivy is brought back all wally did in the 5 days was leak everyones info and plan to kill himself. which they stopped and the one wally is arrested and the other one escapes into the speed force

brava king you managed to outcrap identity crisis

HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
May 28th 2019 at 9:29:09 PM

[up] We have multiple Wallys running around now, everyone but Ivy killed is still dead, and now we might be heading for Crisis On Infinite Wallys.

Sign on for this After The End Fantasy RP.
May 28th 2019 at 9:29:13 PM

[up]wally didnt use time travel to stop himself from killing everyone because he didnt want to cause a flashpoint which is odd because that was the only time that every did that and it was because it was a positive speed force change to a negative speed force change and he already did it to stop his kids from being miscarried but hey his kids are why hes in this in the first place so whatev, anyway when they stop his suicide plan one wally runs away and the other is put in a jl prison presumably to be put on the skwad

HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
May 28th 2019 at 9:33:28 PM

...so what I'm getting from this is that Wally is essentially ruined.

Once again, wokka wokka!
kkhohoho Deranged X-Mas Figure from The Insanity Pole Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Deranged X-Mas Figure
May 28th 2019 at 9:34:51 PM

This really was Wally's Emerald Twilight, wasn't it?

Edited by kkhohoho on May 28th 2019 at 11:35:07 AM

Sonic and the Freedom Fighters — Blue Horizon: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12583620/1/Sonic-and-the-Freedom-Fighters-Blue-Horizon
RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
May 28th 2019 at 9:35:20 PM

I am displeased for more than one reason.

One is having a beloved character turned into cold mush until the next guy fixes it (pls Geoff Johns get on that), the other is Tom King thinking he's writing something poetic and meaningful when he wrote a story about how being depressed makes you a murdering asshole.

Edited by RodimusMinor on May 28th 2019 at 12:36:17 PM

HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
May 28th 2019 at 9:37:01 PM

[up]

If it is, he might be able to come back from it one day. Hal did.

So wait. The reason Flashpoint happened is because Thawne used the Negative Speed Force? That actually explains quite a lot now that I think about it.

I only just heard of it via The Flash (2014), so I never realized it was a thing in the comics too.

Once again, wokka wokka!
May 28th 2019 at 9:38:37 PM

whats even funnier is that in doomsday clock 10 we see manhattan seeing various supermans and the timeline changes and how he is the constant hope, until he makes the new 52 and decides he likes clark detached from humanity and its affecting the entire multiverse because earth-0, prime-earth, new-earth etc is the metaverse and affects everyone. anyway it didnt like doc messing with it and sent agents of hope to fight him which was wally in his costume from rebirth who says how the heroes will stop him. and then wally proceeds to do what he did in hic

flashpoint happened because barry tried to fix a change thawne had made but barry used the speed force while thawne had been using the negative speed force, I assume thats part of the reason time blew up so badly was the changes clashing and blowing up.

Edited by Deadpoolrocks on May 28th 2019 at 9:39:55 AM

HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
May 28th 2019 at 9:47:12 PM

[up]

Yeah, I guessing since the two forces are polar opposites, they cancelled each other out in a violent manner hence all the crazy shit that lead to flashpoint...which knowing Thawne, he was probably fully aware of too.

Once again, wokka wokka!
RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
May 28th 2019 at 9:49:56 PM

https://twitter.com/RyanHigginsRyan/status/1133448627085381633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1133448627085381633&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231133448627085381633

"Obviously the reason people don't like Heroes in Crisis is because they're doodooheads who read comics for the main plot and the character interactions. It's about DEEP THEMES like anxiety and depression and having those DEEP THEMES in the story makes this DEEP too and you just don't get it!" - Ryan Higgins, probably.

May 28th 2019 at 9:53:31 PM

Most of the people I've seen shitting on it the most have ptsd and or depression

alliterator professional crastinator from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
professional crastinator
May 28th 2019 at 9:57:20 PM

What's sad is that Mister Miracle did a much better job at showing the effects of anxiety and depression than Heroes in Crisis. And they were written by the same guy!

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
May 28th 2019 at 10:04:19 PM

Let me put it this way: My favorite comic right now, period, is Vinland Saga by Makoto Yukimura which is, thematically, about the inherent futility and endlessly cyclical nature of violence and revenge.

And if you actually read it I don't even need to tell you that because the themes are interwoven into the story with meaningful character interactions, and more importantly there's an interesting main plot with a fascinating cast of bloodsoaked warriors. There's never any point where I have to jump up and down screaming "it's deep! It's deep! You just don't get it!"

alliterator professional crastinator from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
professional crastinator
May 28th 2019 at 10:11:23 PM

A part of me thinks that the reason King did it like this is because a lot of the stuff in HIC was editorially mandated. We know that it originally started as a smaller book called Sanctuary that was simply going to look at the superhero mental health facility. But then it became a big, "event" book and, well, event books come with lists of characters that have to die. (I can't find the article now, but apparently Brad Meltzer was given a list of characters to kill off in Identity Crisis and that was that.) So even if King wanted to bring back those characters, he couldn't. (I mean, this is, like, the third time Kid Devil has died, right? Does Dan Didio just hate him?)

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
May 28th 2019 at 10:12:32 PM

(I mean, this is, like, the third time Kid Devil has died, right? Does Dan Didio just hate him?)

Actually yes.

math792d The justification for everything from Tesladyne, LLC Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
The justification for everything
May 28th 2019 at 10:14:52 PM

As someone with professional experience identifying and recognising depression and PTSD, this is genuinely amongst the most misguided depictions of either that I've seen.

And Batman's paranoia about his privacy leads him to develop a mental health institution worse than Arkham. Good job, Bruce. You played yourself.

And also, why would you have Harley quote Sigmund Freud? Grumble grumble.

The news that they have nothing to fear is guaranteed to strike fear into the hearts of innocents everywhere.
May 28th 2019 at 10:23:04 PM

King should at least have made the villain hawk like the last time someone figured out the twist villain early

RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
May 28th 2019 at 10:26:56 PM

That'd be pretty meta.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
May 28th 2019 at 10:40:26 PM

I think Dan Didio just hates every single character. If he had the power, he would kill every fictional character everyone's ever thought of.

My various fanfics.
RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
May 28th 2019 at 10:41:17 PM

Addendum: If they weren't around when he was 10 years old, then that's when they don't count.

May 28th 2019 at 10:42:19 PM

Nonesense he loves the originals you know Barry Allen Hal Jordan etc etc


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