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I've always wondered if there's a justification for Wonder Woman's outfit being designed after a modern-day one-piece swimsuit/leotard instead of something that would fit her Greco-Roman mythological background (e.g. Amazons were more often than not depicted as wearing trousers◊note Yeah, trousers are Older Than They Think.). A few attempted redesigns had her adopt Lady Legionnaire Wear for a skirt, but they never stuck. And then of course, there's her pants-wearing design during J. Michael Straczynski's run (courtesy of artist Jim Lee).
edited 27th Dec '13 7:51:31 AM by MarqFJA
There have been explanations for the color scheme over the years but nothing on the shape of the costume. Personally, I would just as rather not have them justify the one-piece swimsuit look, to avoid the Voodoo Shark problem.
I can justify it. Hephaestus is a perv.
Funnily enough, that's the actual explanation in Superwomen of Eva 2: Amazing Amazon.
... Ugh. I just looked up Voodoo Shark's comic books examples. Ugh, and double ugh! Someone sack Joe Quesada already!
How about justifying it for a fanfic that does its own "reboot" and re-imagines the DC Comics superhero setting for its own purposes, the same way spin-off movies of Superman and Batman do? They count as alternate continuities, right?
edited 27th Dec '13 12:48:18 PM by MarqFJA
I personally could not come up with an explanation for the swimsuit look that wasn't a voodoo shark, so I'd either not mention it in story, or have her wear one of her more practical outfits.
Hephaestus is a perv.
On a different topic: I know Green Lantern's ring can translate spoken languages. Does this also apply to written languages? Would it work on sign languages?
(There doesn't seem to be a Green Lantern thread, so I figured I'd ask here.)
I think it probably could, for both, though it would require scanning the writings first for the former and might take some time when coming into "first contact" with one of the latter's.
How about explaining it as due to being a champion of Aphrodite alongside the other Amazonian goddesses? If she's supposed to be an epitome of beauty (and sensuality, if you want to factor in that side of Aphrodite), then her outfit should be appropiately glamorous and flattering, right?
Incidentally, I just reading this bit from Superwomen of Eva 2: Amazing Amazon Chapter 1:
Though the "armor" did look like it would be more than a little revealing…
"Oh," Athena said. "Well, the Lord of the Forges was rather enamored with America when he made this. They had recently won their 'space race' against the Soviet Union, and he felt that they were perhaps his greatest followers of all time."
edited 27th Dec '13 11:31:46 PM by MarqFJA
Yes, the GL ring can translate writing, instantly if it's "seen" the language before, in a very short time if the language is in the central database and communication is possible, or after some time and a large sample if it's "new." Same with sign language or other "non-standard" communication methods. Most of the time when this comes up, either the central database is unavailable or it's a completely new language that the Corps has never encountered before.
On another note, is it just me, or does the DCU superhero/supervillain population have a distinct lack of well-known powerful psychics on the level of Marvel's Professor X, the various psychic members of the Jean Grey bloodline, Emma Frost, and the Stepford Cuckoos? Or heck, a pseudo-telekinetic like Magnetonote At times his power over magnetism allows him to nearly destroy the whole Earth through manipulating the planetary magnetic fields!?
edited 28th Dec '13 4:31:29 AM by MarqFJA
Define "well-known". There's Martian Manhunter, of course; on the baddies side there's Dr. Psycho, Psymon, Mad Hatter...
But yes, the DCU is less blessed with top-level psychics than the Marvel U. Which was kind of lampshaded by the Squadron Supreme being so easy to mind control because they'd never run into it in their home dimension and thus never learned to defend against it.
Mad Hatter isn't a psychic. Unless Gail Simone writes him, that is.
He simulates psychic powers (primarily mind control.) Good enough for our purposes. Might actually be effective against Marvel characters, provided it's ones that have never met the Ringmaster.
Most telepaths and the like in the DCU are villains. In addition to the already listed, there's also Grodd and Manchester Black, for instance. If we're counting people who can manipulate minds through tech, other than Hatter, we have Spellbinder.
I think Dr. Polaris also can do Magneto-level tricks on telekinetics and the like. I know he was going to shift the whole axis of the Earth in Joker: Last Laugh, for starters.
edited 31st Dec '13 1:29:39 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
didn't Manchester Black get Brought Down to Normal?
and Spellbinder... you mean one of McGinnis!Batman's rogues, right?
edited 31st Dec '13 3:26:02 PM by crimsonstorm15
No there used to be a normal Batman villain named Spellbinder.
really? what was his story?
The original Spellbinder was a goofy Silver Age leftover with mere tech to cast illusions. During the Underworld Unleashed crossover, his girlfriend killed him and made a deal with demon Neron to gain actual magical mind altering illusions.
I looked up some images of this guy. yeah, Beyond!Spellbinder's costume is way cooler.
Apart from J'onn, The only other heroes I can think of with psi powers are Mento, Hitman, Looker, and Raven, and the former three disappeared into the background pre-52. I guess Aquaman could be considered a limited telepath.
Hitman didn't 'disappear', the last issue of his series outright killed him off.
Anyone know if there's a rough estimate of how "big" (or rather, how small) Paradise Island/Themyscira is in terms of land area? I'm getting the impression that it's probably tiny enough to count as at least a borderline microstate.
Damn, I've yet to read the last two volumes. That would explain it.
Also forgot about Miss Martian.
edited 2nd Jan '14 11:57:39 AM by supergod
The Batman's version of spellbinder◊ looked pretty cool.
edited 2nd Jan '14 4:34:48 PM by Saya1
I didn't want to start a thread on its own because its kind of just my own crazy thoery at the moment.
Is DC preparing to pull the plug on the vertigo imprint within the next two years?
First all the characters who started off as dc characters were folded back into the main universe.
The we have the sandman mini series.
Then it was announced that fables is ending with issue 150...its spinoff fairest ending before that.
Then unwritten is ending for good with this final apocalypse arc
all that vertigo are publishing other than the four mentioned above are american vampire (which is on hiatus) and a bunch of stories which either seem self contained or are mini series on its own.
Am I over thinking this or will dc use this new sandman mini to close the book on vertigo?
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