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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#301: Oct 22nd 2016 at 10:56:46 PM

Wow. So basically:

People who say misogynistic things about this movie: Misogynists

People who raise legitimate criticisms about this movie: Misogynists in disguise

I mean, I hated the trailer because I thought the humor was unfunny, special effect horrendous for a 2016 movie, and that I'm tired of reboots in general, so clearly I'm secretly a misogynist myself.

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#302: Oct 22nd 2016 at 11:33:12 PM

[up]No, he just said that most of the movie's legitimately misogynistic detractors are so good at hiding their misogyny, that it's very difficult to determine who simply dislikes the movie, and who's just an alt right asshole.

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#303: Oct 23rd 2016 at 12:48:23 AM

And those people still fall under the category of those who dislike the film for misogynistic reasons. The fact that there are some misogynists who disguise their opinion does not give the creators and the supporters justification to dismiss all those who doubt/dislike the film for non-misogynistic, legitimate criticism.

edited 23rd Oct '16 12:51:57 AM by dRoy

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#304: Oct 23rd 2016 at 12:56:39 AM

The whole thing I think could have worked with a full female cast IMO if they had just watched the original for character personalities, chemistry and dynamics.

I mean there was only one straight comical character in the group with Peter and you would need someone lewd and sarcastic like say Sarah Silverman to play it well. Ray and Egon were specifically Mythbusters, not intentionally comedic but Ray's giddiness and Egon's Comedically Serious helped them play off each other and Peter play off them. Winston was the normal guy and was the weak link in the group and could of used some help.

Instead like the trailer pointed out we got 4 people trying and failing to play Peter at the exact same time, turning out to be ludicrously unfunny. To the point of travesty because they tried to compare itself to the original every chance the got, especially in the second half, if it tried to distance itself from the original it might have been just a 'it was ok' movie.

edited 23rd Oct '16 2:47:42 AM by Memers

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#305: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:11:03 AM

One of the things that I appreciated a lot about Star Wars: The Force Awakens is that it managed to keep in touch and pay homage to the original saga while also starting a new story with new characters. I feel that that's the kind of approach this film should've taken.

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#306: Oct 23rd 2016 at 7:51:45 AM

No, he just said that most of the movie's legitimately misogynistic detractors are so good at hiding their misogyny, that it's very difficult to determine who simply dislikes the movie, and who's just an alt right asshole.

Pretty much, yeah. This isn't the first time the Alt-Right have used people with less unsavory opinions as shields for deflecting criticism and it won't be the last.

This is one of the Alt-Right's favorite methods of faking legitimacy: tricking progressives and moderates into fighting with each other over anti-SJ issues. Unfortunately, the cast and crew fell hook, line, and sinker for the ploy.

  • Misogynists: Stupid bitch movie with dumb bitch cast, lol.
  • Cast: I'm so sick of hearing these awful comments by misogynist assholes.
  • Anti-rebooters: Who are you calling a misogynistic asshole?! I HATE YOU FOREVER!!! GONNA SPAM YOU WITH DEATH THREATS AND PROTESTS!!!
  • Misogynists: >:D

edited 23rd Oct '16 7:58:32 AM by TobiasDrake

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#307: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:02:34 AM

So basically misogynist opponents are misogynists while non-misogynist opponents are tools of misogynists.

Jesus bloody Christ, this is practically a prettied up, less unsavory version of the whole "Everyone who doubts/dislike the idea of this movie is a misogynist, one way or another."

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#308: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:32:18 AM

Not this again.

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#309: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:38:53 AM

Well, it is relevant to the thread for now.

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#310: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:42:36 AM

I mean, at least it's not another Batman v. Superman argument.

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#311: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:57:14 AM

My stance on that film is pretty much that it has flaws but I actually pretty much like it.

It's kind of like the Transformers film series to me. XD

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#312: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:08:51 AM

Personally I thought was an ok Melissa Mccarthy movie, several other movies she has done were a lot better.

As a Ghostbusters reboot it was horrible and pretty much ruins any chances of an actually decent reboot.

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#313: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:16:25 AM

When I first heard that Paul Feig and Melissa Mc Carthy were involved, I wad actually pretty psyched because damn, both Bridesmaids and Spy were just amazing.

And then I saw the trailer.

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#314: Oct 23rd 2016 at 11:45:35 AM

I mean, at least it's not another Batman v. Superman argument.

Look all I'm saying is that it's a patently ridiculous double to say that Superman is uncaring or unheroic because he isn't pleasant enough while saying The Avengers are the real deal when they decided to simply forgive Wanda for unleashing the Hulk on innocent civilians and then continue to make mistakes that cost innocent people their lives.

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#315: Oct 23rd 2016 at 11:50:46 AM

Dude, I'm not even referring to that.

Seriously, we've had two threads locked because there were so many Bv S arguments going on. Please don't bring those arguments here.

edited 23rd Oct '16 11:52:21 AM by AdricDePsycho

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#316: Oct 23rd 2016 at 11:54:07 AM

Good job on that, by the way.

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#318: Oct 23rd 2016 at 12:15:57 PM

Kinda hard to tell, sorry. Majority of the time, you've spoken of that topic in earnest.

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#319: Oct 23rd 2016 at 6:56:34 PM

What I would have liked to see done with the concept is to have the original Ghostbusters die while saving the city in the opening (you'd have to use the fake shemp method and just show the backs of their heads), and then the four leads all encounter paranormal activities, so they visit the now-abandoned firehouse to see if there's any notes or info, and while doing this they joke about being the new Ghostbusters, a joke comment which spirals into them actually taking the role. Maybe it's a little cliche, but it would at least make the ghostbusters into some sort of legacy, kind of like "the people in the suits may change, but the goal is still the same".

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#320: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:03:25 PM

Would that make the former leads Ghost-Ghostbusters?

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#321: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:18:32 PM

[up][up] Oh no I'm still serious about that.

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#322: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:19:45 PM

Hence why it isn't funny.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#323: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:33:22 PM

Oh man.

I love the idea of the original Ghostbusters becoming ghosts themselves. XD

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#324: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:56:31 PM

Bill Murray actually said at one point that he'd only come back for a third film if he played a ghost.

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#325: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:58:19 PM

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edited 23rd Oct '16 8:58:40 PM by Soble

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