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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1: Oct 23rd 2013 at 8:17:21 AM

So, I was taking a look at an earlier thread about merging Marvel and DC together, and it got me to thinking; what if the two companies were merged, but at the same time, the Sliding Timescale was stripped away? In other words; Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, etc. all still show up in the late 30's, as they did in the original comics. The FF, Spiderman, original X-Men, Spiderman, Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, etc, all still show up in the 50's and 60's, as well. And from there on, they all age in real time. Everyone first shows up in the same real year that they came into being, and they age from that point on. Of course, there are exceptions; Gods like Thor or Hercules, or immortal beings like Wonder Woman, likely wouldn't age a day, whereas guys with 'slow' aging, such as Wolverine or Namor, or maybe even Superman, would age, but slowly. The end result should be one giant universe where most characters grows and age over a very long period of time, and eventually, depending on when they were introduced, their stories do finally end. But their spirits live on,(metaphorically speaking,) in the form of various descendants and Spiritual Successors. It's an idea that I actually had for a while, then forgot about. Until the recent Marvel/DC thread reminded me.

Now, since I started the thread, I will of course supply some ideas to start out with, but after that, I won't be mandating and demanding, like I'm trying to write a fanfic. This is supposed to really be a community project, as the original universes of Marvel and DC, in a way, were. Personally, I'm really looking forward to the results. [smile]


First off, all of the heroes and teams that started in the 30's and 40's — Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Justice Society, Namor, Human Torch, Captain America, the Invaders, and everyone else — would still show up in that era. However, instead of the Invaders and the Justice Society of America's being separate teams, they would instead be one team; America's Invaders for Justice. It would basically be one large team, having all of the different members of both teams of the era, though with so many members, they could afford to split. Half the team would go straight into the battlefield and fight the War on the front, whereas the other half would stay at home, keeping America safe from all of the Supervillains and other threats that would still keep popping up, and the membership in each half would rotate as needed. However, the Invaders of Justice are only one smaller part of a much larger operation; the Allstar Squadron, which is one large taskforce of nearly every active Superhero at the time, from both the Marvel and DC camps. They're sort of a loose conglomerate, with nearly any Superhero capable of being called upon when needed, but otherwise, they don't really work together that often, aside from an unofficial small core team. Many Superheroes are kept out of Europe and Japan though, thanks to the Spear of Destiny; a mystical device rumored to be the very Spear that crucified Jesus Christ himself, and it effects all Superheroes that are either influenced or empowered by some sort of mystic force, or are otherwise weak to it. (Like Superman.) Thus, another reason for the Invaders of Justice's split, and it also explains why Germany, Italy, and Japan weren't squashed in one night by the might of all Superheroes combined.

Fast-forward to the 50's. By that point, the war had been won, but Mc Carthyism has set in, and nearly every Superhero out there has been practically ostracized. After all, they have strange, mysterious powers, and they wear masks, so they must be dirty, filthy stinking Communists. Right? Right? So, in the fallout, with most heroes choosing to retire, or at least remain active in secrecy, only several heroes are confirmed to still be active; Superman, Batman&Robin, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow&Speedy, Aquaman, Namor the Sub-mariner, and a fake Us Government-approved Captain America&Bucky, as well as the occasional reappearance by the original Human Torch. There was also an attempt to make a new Superhero team with Namor and several other heroes called the All-Winners Squad, but that was not to last, and everyone but Namor quickly went back into hiding. However, by 1955, both Namor, the Human Torch, and the fake Cap&Bucky had completely faded off the map.

Thankfully, in 1956, the first brand new Superhero in years (Publicly, anyway; the Martian Manhunter came to Earth a year before,) made his grand first appearance; a new Flash, now one of the fastest man alive, with only the Whizzer and the first Flash being able to even come close to his dazzling speed. And in the same year, who would dare show up but yet another Green Lanter, dedicated to making evil fear the Green Lantern's might! And then another hero showed up. And another. And another. It probably helped that by the 60's, the Mc Carthy scare was finally over and done with, but none the less, it was clear that a brand new wave of heroes was underway. And who better to charge the way forward than a group of heroes that would best described as 'Fantastical?'

In 1961, a group of three men and one young woman decided to test out a new space-rocket before the Russians could send one of theirs up. Little did they know that they'd be hit with the awe-inspiring power of Gamma Rays! When the rocket crash-landed, the four were miraculously still alive, but now, they had powers that, if not for Superheroes already being in existence, would be beyond human understanding. And so, in a bid to gain celebrity status, and thus protect his friends and lover from scorn and deridement, Reed Richards formed a brand new Superhero team; the Fantastic Four!

The Fantastic Four ushered in a brand new Marvel Age, with many in a new breed of Superheroes, somewhat different from those who started to appear 5 years before, coming out of the wood work. Thor, Ironman, Spiderman, Ant-man and the Wasp, Dr Strange, the Hulk, the X-Men, etc., though still more heroes arrived from the earlier camp as well. And the heroes who were still active in the 50's, still continued to be active, for the time being, though some were getting on in age, with the exceptions of the slow-aging Superman and the immortal Wonder Woman.

However, in 1963, after the Earth barely managed to survive the dual threat of Loki, God of Mischief, and the mighty alien Starro the Conqueror, a new team was formed; the Avengers of Justice! Superman, Batman, Wonderman, Hal Jordan, Barry Allan, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Ironman, Thor, Ant-man, Wasp, and the Hulk were all founding members of this grand team, and many more heroes soon followed. ...Including none other then the fabled original Captain America, long thought to be KIA more then a decade ago!

And so it began...

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#2: Oct 23rd 2013 at 11:57:22 AM

It should be noted that the Batman on the Avengers of Justice is not the original Batman.

The first Batman, Bruce Wayne, retires from superheroism in 1957 as he starts to feel his age, and passes the mantle of Batman on to Dick Grayson, his Robin; Wayne focuses his energies on Wayne Enterprises and the Wayne Foundation, feeling that he can make more of a lasting difference as a philanthropist, but he stays on as an advisor to Grayson.

In the course of investigating a drug ring, the new Batman crosses path with Jason Todd, a teenage tearaway who turned to drugs to escape his abusive home life. Batman, feeling bad for the lad, takes him in an helps him to kick his addiction. The two become close, and Jason becomes the new Robin, with Grayson grooming him to become the new Batman when he himself has to retire.

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