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Well, I don't really know what your country's name is, sorry to say, but I just came up with what I think would the the Logical Conclusion for the fallout. And, no offense, but even if you don't like it, if others do, then I think we should still go through with it. The democratic approach, I guess.
...Interesting choice. You got any plans for Nextwave, or would you just retell the original miniseries?
...Riiiiight. Look, no offense, but we really need to know what you plan to do in it. What are your characters, your series' long term plan? What DC elements do you plan to include? And it's not just for our benefit; having a long term plan for your story ensures that you have some idea of where you're going, as opposed to just making it all up, and writing yourself into either a corner, or an aimless neverending path.
I accidentally edited out my own post.
Anyway, the main thing is that I'm adding another character from the Public Domain, [[home.comcast.net/~pfeonline/PEC_06/INTRO_01.HTM the Atomic Crusader.]] And for those interested, the link above actually has his origin story, so you can check that out there. The whole site actually has 20 different origin stories from Golden Age publisher Nedor Comics, so if that's all there too. (I'm actually thinking about just using Nedor Comics's wholesale; not nearly every character would be a part of the team, but I think that Nedor's stable of characters is large enough, and of high enough quality, to be merged into Marvel&DC's Golden Age era, but not nearly large enough to overshadow the Big Two. And since Nedor didn't last past the Golden Age, it wouldn't impact the Modern Era at all. I'm also going to see if I can find comics from Fox, the original Blue Beetle's company, and see if Fox can be put in beyond just the Blue Beetle. Of course, it's all still Public Domain, so it shouldn't be an issue.)
Now, the original story for the Crusader was that he was a timid astrologer/scientist got caught in a radioactive experiment that ''should have killed him, and got superpowers instead. My interpretation of the Crusader is that he got turned from a nice, cheerful but timid guy into a nice, cheerful, but aggressive superhuman who's perfectly willing to explode his opponents to smithereens while smiling several panels later on the same page. Basically, along with powers, he suffered a change in personality, and not necessarily one for the better. I would be exploring that with him, as he comes to realize this change, and thus try to change for the better.
Marvel
- The Eternal Brain (Mission Control; usually doesn't head out on missions, being a Brain in a Jar.)
- Captain America
- Bucky
- Namor
- Human Torch
- Toro
- Blue Blaze
- Dr.Nemesis
- Blue Diamond
- Jack Frost
- Golden Age!Vision
- Spitfire
- Union Jack
- Blazing Skull
- Golden Age!Black Widow
- Whizzer (Reoccuring member only)
- Miss America (Reoccuring member only)
- Makkari (Disguised first as Mercury and then as Hurricane before his true identity is revealed.)
- Mr/Major Liberty
- Rockman
- The Destroyer (Keen Marlowe)
- Golden Girl
- Phantom Reporter
- Mastermind Excello
- Dynamic Man (Eventually performs a Face Heel turn, since he's essentially A Nazi by Any Other Name.)
DC
- Wonder Woman (Hippolyta)
- Green Lantern (Alan Scott)
- The Flash (Jay Garrick
- Hourman
- Batm— uh, ahem... Dr.Midnight. (Who is pretty much going to be a Golden Age Batman, in some ways.)
- Hawkman
- Hawkgirl
- Spectre (Won't show up all that often, due to Story-Breaker Power)
- Johhny Thunder
- Starman
- Sandman (Dressed in his original suit&gasmask, not his later purple&yellow look.)
- Mr.Terrific
- Plastic Man
- Johny Quick
- Liberty Belle
- Robotman (The first one, not the Doom Patrol one.)
- Dr.Fate (Kent Nelson)
- The Atom (Al Pratt)
- Wildcat
- Shining Knight
- Captain Triumph
Public Domain
- Golden Age!Blue Beetle
- The Boy King
- Man of War
- Frankenstein
(His backstory's going to be based more off the book's then the movies.)
- Jet Powers.
(FYI, 'Jet Powers' isn't his real name, just an alias. In this continuity, his real name is Jet Palmer, great grandfather to the Silver Age Atom. Jet usually won't be out in the field, and instead will be the team's primary tech-guy, mechanic, engineer, you name it. Now, as for why he's Atom's greatgrandfather here, look at the link above, and both read his description and look at his costume. I'd say there's a strong family resemblance there.
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- [[home.comcast.net/~pfeonline/PEC_06/INTRO_01.HTM Atomic Crusader]]
- Doc Strange
- Pyroman (Technically, he didn't show up until 1945, near the end of the war if not after, but his first story wasn't his origin story. With that in mind, I think it's plausible to say that his actual origin could have happened a few years later, and this his first story happened after he'd already had a few years of experience under his belt.)
edited 24th Dec '13 6:05:55 PM by kkhohoho
So, I just finished reading The Twelve, after finally getting it from the library yesterday; for the most part, it was really darn good, but there a couple of a missteps, mainly coming down to Straczynski's treatment of the Golden Age Black Widow. See, in The Twelve, her origin is basically that the Widow is a wealthy socialite, and her sister was killed by an @$$hole, and so she makes a deal with the devil to get revenge. However, in the original version of her origin, she was a clairvoyant who was briefly possessed by the devil to put a curse upon a client-family of hers. This causes the family's car to crash and burn on their back home, and the only survivor is a young man whom the devil then urges to kill the woman seemingly responsible, Clare Voyant, for revenge. And he does so. With everything masterfully set up, the Devil then takes her to his infernal kingdom, and turns her into his undead servant; she now is a slave to the devil's will, and does not remember much about her own life prior to her death. She certainly remembers being shot, but not the circumstances that lead to it. And so, the devil has her take 'revenge' on the same guy who the devil sent to take revenge on her in the first place. The end result? A sexy, superpowered undead slave that is loyal to his will, and perfectly willing to kill still-living evil souls and bring them to the devil's underworld. To me, that's a much better and much more delightfully twisted version then whatever Straczynski came up, and has a lot more potential as well. In fact, The Twelve itself might as well be proof of this, because the Widow's new origin didn't really change anything, and in fact, not much was done with her, other then have be a forced (IMO,) love interest for the Phantom Reporter. And speaking of him...
Again, other then that, (and that they also changed the Fiery Mask's origin, as well as his hair color; Rockman too, but they ended up giving us the choice between his new origin and his old one, ala Straczynski's Spider-man run,) it was still darn good, and gave me some good ideas. The Phantom Reporter, Dynaman, and Mastermind Excello all are joining the group, (because, let's face it; at this point, it's going to be a large rotating group with different members of it featured at a time, instead of one small team, ala JLU,) and they each are going to have a rather specific purpose. The Reporter adds a more humanizing perspective to the events that go on within the series. While he has some skill as a crimefighter and is very observant&pretty clever, he considers himself not much more then a 'tourist', and instead acts more as a war correspondent, jotting down the series' events as he see them in his journal. Then there's Mastermind Excello; he can 'sense' how things should be or are going to be, but mostly only in a vague sense. That's going to be his main feature in the group, so, like Jet Powers, The Eternal Brain, and even the Phantom Reporter, he won't be seen much on the field, though there will probably be the occasional exception. And finally, there's Dynamic Man. Dynamic Man is an android, like the Human Torch, but at the same time, not like him. While the Human Torch is overall a Nice Guy, albeit with some emotional immaturity, Dynamic Man, with his near-perfect physique, blond hair, and blue eyes, was designed to eliminate what his creator saw as 'imperfections.' Now, at first, Dynamic Man himself does not realize this, and tries to be a straight-up hero, but in time, his true nature is revealed; he himself is no better then a Nazi — the perfect realization of the 'Master Race' and the Aryan Ideal — and so, this eventually leads him to perform a Face Heel turn. In The Twelve, this happened near the end of the story, well after the group had arrived in the present, but here, it's going to happen in the Golden Age.
Other then that, I don't think there's much more to say, other then that The Burning Mask might make an appearance at the least, if he's not a full-blown member of the group. His changed origin is actually one I like though, mainly because in terms of potential story-possibilities, so who knows. And again, with the current swelled cast ranks, the roster is definitely going to be a Revolving Door sort of deal; they'll all be members of the same group, but many characters will likely take turns in just how important they are to the current story or arc, though I still intend to make some use out of everyone at some point or another, and to give everyone some development. Again, it'll be very JLU.
edited 23rd Dec '13 6:58:53 PM by kkhohoho
Ah, so you do want the Phantom Reporter. In that case, here's a small change to the Shadow Legacy.
Manhunter (Paul Richards), active 1959 - 1967
Note: This is a composite character of Dan Richards, Paul Kirk, and Mark Shaw.
Paul Richards was an old-money prosecuting attorney, a member of Gotham's upper crust and, in his free time, and enthusiastic big game hunter.
In 1956, he returned from a safari holiday in British Wakanda just in time to attend the annual graduation at Gotham Police Academy, where his fiancé's brother was graduating. The ceremony was bombed by the Mafia, who were hoping to kill a large number of police officers in one fell swoop. They did, even killing Paul's fiancé and her brother.
Furious, and frustrated at the inability of the Gotham Police Department, Paul took matters into his own hands. Using the skills he had honed as a big game hunter, he tracked down the Mafia don who had ordered the bombing and brought him right to the police.
After that, he poured his energy into prosecuting the Mafia, but was blocked at every turn by the mob's influence in, and power over, the major players in Gotham as well as rampant police corruption. The only person who seemed to be doing anything worthwhile was the mysterious Lady Luck, who arrived about a year after the bombing.
Paul decided to take a leaf from Lady Luck's book, and adopted a secret identity - Manhunter. Again using his hunting skills, he pursued criminals with a Luger, katar, and a set of shurikens, bringing to them the justice that the law would not. He frequently encountered Lady Luck during his superheroic actions, and romance soon blossomed.
The two were married in 1960, and for two years after fought crime as a husband-and-wife team. In 1962, the pregnant Brenda retired from supheroing to look after their child. Paul continued for a few years, until Brian Butler entered the scene.
Ukrainian Red CrossRechecked Wikipedia - turns out there were actually two Manhunters named Paul Kirk. The first was a non-costumes private investigator, and the other was a big game hunter turned crime fighter whose name was originally given as Rick Nelson, but then randomly changed to Paul Kirk.
Hmm. Most of the latter Paul Kirk's qualities are also present in either Dan Richards or Mark Shaw (yay expies!), so you can still have Paul Kirk if you want.
Ukrainian Red CrossChapter 7 is up. Unlike last chapter, this one is all about 'new' characters, namely fellow androids, the Golden Age Human Torch, and... DYNAMIC MAN!
EDIT: I've also decided to add Doc Strange and Pyroman from Nedor Comics to the group. Tom Strong is, by all accounts, an expy of Golden Age Superman, at least in terms of personality, powers, archenemy, (one of them, at least,) and color scheme, which makes him a perfect stand-in Golden Age!Supes him here. (He even has an 'S' on his belt; who knew? Also, I already have Dr.Midnight for a Batman-type character, and for Wonder Woman... well, I have a Wonder Woman.) As for Pyroman, he completes a sort of elemental trio with Human Torch and Jack Frost, as he has electricity powers, but he also has an interesting origin. Basically, he got sentenced to death for a crime he didn't commit, and back then, they still used the electric chair. Only, instead of getting fried, he somehow survived, and got electricity powers in the bargain. Now, I've already introduced the concept of a 'Latent Mutant' in the series with Dr.Midnight — as in some sort of trauma that should have killed you instead activating your dormant mutant gene, which wouldn't have been activated otherwise — but I'll see if that's what I go with. Either way, I'm still going to have as technically being dead, even for just a second, and then having come back from the (metaphorical,) grave. Also, while he doesn't show much personality in any comics I've read of him, there's been a moments where an actual personality — a vivid one, in fact — pop through, and that's what I'm going to draw from for his persona here. He's going to be 'livewire'; a lively, edgy wisecracker, though part of that is his way of coping with having been dead.
edited 24th Dec '13 6:17:50 PM by kkhohoho
As a kinda'-sorta' Christmas Gift, here's Chapter 8, which introduces the Phantom Reporter and Hourman, while also bringing everyone together that we've seen so far.
EDIT: Also, I'm not adding another character to the group right now, but I am adding another non-Supervillain to the overall story. This guy is Chuck Magnon,
and given his rather long-lived&miraculous nature, he's essentially going to be merged with the DC's Immortal Man, acting as that character's Golden Age incarnation, (when originally, the Immortal Man hadn't been created until the Silver Age,) being an archenemy to Vandal Savage. Instead of getting high-level intelligence, Chuck only got above-average intelligence; he was smart, he nowhere near Savage's level. After Savage finally starts acting As Himself, Chuck steps in, occasionally appearing to she light on on Savage, and on those who, one way or another, or related either to him, or to the mysterious meteorite that empowered him, as well as similar objects.
edited 26th Dec '13 1:33:21 PM by kkhohoho
Chapter 9 is up. No new heroes, but we do get our first villain; U-man
, the rouge Atlantian.
edited 26th Dec '13 1:38:37 PM by kkhohoho
Ok, after I get someone to look over it, I'll upload the prologue to Spider-Man later today. What are the writing assignments, anyway?
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I'm doing the Golden Age series, (writing up Chapter 12 as we speak,) and... I'm not sure what everyone else is doing. Truth be told, it's been kind of quiet here lately. Maybe they're all working on something else?
Chapter 12 is up. No new characters here; instead, it's all about Character Development.
edited 29th Dec '13 1:11:14 PM by kkhohoho
Hey, I read about half of the chapters you've got up. Good stuff! Spider-Man's prologue should be up in a few minutes.
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Just read it, and I have to say, a very nice start.
I also think it shows the variety of this project; that there's different formats, styles, and moods that the stories in this project can take.
Now I'm just wondering where everyone else is off to. I'd put off doing this, but I think I'm gonna' PM them. I gave them the benefit at doubt at first because, hey, Christmas, people are busy. But if that's what kept them away, you'd think they be back here by now. So I'm just going to see what they're up to.
