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VampireBuddha Calendar enthusiast from Ireland (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#276: Nov 26th 2013 at 12:12:22 PM

In that case, either postpone the crossover, or have the crossover numbered after the conclusion of the Iron Man flashback. Or just, you know, have writers talk to each other and arrange in advance to have their stories sync up. like Valiant did.

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#277: Nov 26th 2013 at 1:51:40 PM

Fair enough.

edited 26th Nov '13 1:52:18 PM by IFwanderer

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AtomJames I need a drink Since: Apr, 2010
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#278: Nov 28th 2013 at 6:21:39 PM

So what were some of the ideas we were certain we would include?

So far the only things I can remember off the top of my head is that

  • Captain America is the biological father of Diana
  • Superman was inspired by Captain America

What else were we good with?

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#279: Nov 28th 2013 at 6:52:45 PM

[up]*Mutants are divided into two groups — the mostly normal ones, and the inhuman-looking Morlocks — and the X-Men actually go to Mutant-Rights rallies on a regular basis, as opposed to staying in hiding the whole time.

  • The Avengers and the Justice League are connected, though we didn't agree on just how that is. Personally, I'd just say they're one big team. Same would go for the JSA and the Invaders, here called the Invaders for Justice. (Who I still want to write for.)

I'm not sure if we actually universally agree on much else; mostly, we were just throwing ideas around...

edited 28th Nov '13 6:53:10 PM by kkhohoho

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#280: Nov 28th 2013 at 6:56:08 PM

ok so what idea were everybody cool with?

one I threw out there was the S.H.I.E.L.D was basically a modern version of Checkmate. thoughts?

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#282: Nov 28th 2013 at 7:32:28 PM

Perhaps its a secret project that only the World Security Council is in on? Fury, Hill and Faraday wouldn't even be in on it. Also, if we are going to be including Coulson in the combined universe I have an idea; what if Clark Kent and Phil Coulson are cousins? They both looked up to Captain America growing up, Clark first showed off his powers to Phil (explaining how he's able to take superheroes in his stride, he played tag with one!)

edited 28th Nov '13 7:40:52 PM by AtomJames

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#283: Nov 28th 2013 at 8:02:42 PM

[up]Should be fine, so long as they're not like JLU Cadmus. Also, on Clark and Phil as cousins; I'm not exactly all for it, but neither am I against it. It can go either way.

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#284: Nov 28th 2013 at 10:33:58 PM

Well the way I saw it working was we don't even mention it. We have them interact in other stories and such, but always on official business and stuff, out of respect for the others line of work and their wish for anonymity. Then come a big crossover where Phil is escorting Clark through the Triskellion or Helicarrier they can have private exchanges like "So hows Aunt Martha?", "She's good! Pa is still having trouble with the tractor. Hows that cellist you were seeing?", "Its complicated."

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#285: Nov 29th 2013 at 1:49:24 AM

So what about Weapon X? Make it a Cadmus project?

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AtomJames I need a drink Since: Apr, 2010
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#286: Nov 29th 2013 at 2:00:10 AM

Heres an idea

The original super soldier serum was created by the SSR. The SSR is then absorbed by Checkmate and is rechristened Cadmus. Cadmus is then given the job of recreating the super soldier serum which is retroactively called Weapon I. Attempts to create super soldiers are thus named Weapons II to X, all while Checkmate is repurposed into S.H.I.E.L.D.

Weapon X is unique among the Weapon Plus program since it used and modified mutants; the most well known subject of course being Wolverine, but other test subjects include the likes of Sabretooth and Killer Croc.

edited 29th Nov '13 2:05:35 AM by AtomJames

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#287: Nov 29th 2013 at 5:56:44 AM

[up]If Cadmus was responsible for Weapon X, then that would make them more like JLU Cadmus; a shifty shadow cabinet. I'm not saying we can't take them that route, but is that really where we want them to go?

edited 29th Nov '13 8:26:37 AM by kkhohoho

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#288: Nov 29th 2013 at 7:44:37 AM

We could have Cadmus operate as a thinktank then? One where the likes of Reed Richards or Mr Terrific or Doc Magnus could meet and discuss potential of current crises? Cadmus could still operate under S.H.I.E.L.D but it would be left in the open; everyone would know about it.

edited 29th Nov '13 7:45:58 AM by AtomJames

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#289: Nov 29th 2013 at 8:27:32 AM

[up]There we go.smile And this would still allow for the cloning shenanigans that Cadmus is known for, since you still have all of these great minds together.

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#290: Nov 29th 2013 at 8:28:40 AM

and lets face it, Lex Luthor and Victor Von Doom are among those minds. Just depends on if they feel like helping or not.

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#291: Nov 29th 2013 at 8:46:33 AM

[up]{Reed Richards arrives for his first meeting at the CADMUS Think Tank...}

Richards: Doctor Doom?! What are you doing he—

Doom: Diplomatic immunity.

Richards: ...Come again?

Doom: DIP. LO. MAT. IC—

Richards: But... you're a supervill—

Doom: Here, I am referred to as a 'Diplomatic Scientific Advisor.' ...Infidel.

Richards: ...Right. Never coming here again...

edited 29th Nov '13 9:02:30 AM by kkhohoho

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#292: Nov 29th 2013 at 8:50:27 AM

Lex: Come now, Richards. World is in peril. This is the time to put away such...petty differences

Reed: Oh you've got to be kidding me!

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#294: Nov 29th 2013 at 8:55:27 AM

Who was the creator of Weapon Plus/X in the comics? Some normal guys or some super villains who just wanted to rule the world/kill all mutants?

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#295: Nov 29th 2013 at 8:59:10 AM

[up][up]Lex: I also provide excellent dental care...

[up]Never read the original story, but I've seen flashbacks. I'm pretty sure it was from someplace in Canada, of all places...

edited 29th Nov '13 8:59:50 AM by kkhohoho

AtomJames I need a drink Since: Apr, 2010
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#296: Nov 29th 2013 at 9:00:16 AM

Well, Weapon X was the creation of Department H, Canada's answer to CIA's Black Operations. The program was spearheaded by a man named Dr Cornelius. It wasn't till later that Marvel retroactively turned Eskine's Super Soldier Serum into Weapon 0.

edited 29th Nov '13 9:05:14 AM by AtomJames

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#297: Nov 29th 2013 at 9:01:44 AM

[up]Department H? The same department that originally funded Alpha Flight?

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#298: Nov 29th 2013 at 9:02:35 AM

Mhm. Scary, no? You think that's bad, Weapon X got even worse. Hell for a period in time Department H was churning out agents with Wolverine level healing specifically to bring down the Hulk.

edited 29th Nov '13 9:03:56 AM by AtomJames

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#299: Nov 29th 2013 at 9:02:41 AM

Weapon Plus seems to have been created by sentient bacteria.

What.

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#300: Nov 29th 2013 at 9:14:45 AM

...ok, we need to find a way to work Weapon Plus in better than that.

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