TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Duplicate Trope: Art Major Biology

Go To

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#1: Oct 21st 2013 at 2:28:36 PM

Art Major Biology is pretty much a duplicate of Artistic License – Biology. Both are about creators taking liberties with biology for the sake of storytelling.

I think the two pages should be merged under Artistic License – Biology.

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
#2: Oct 21st 2013 at 2:57:12 PM

Well, part of that is because artistic license was changed into what it is now simply because tropers did not like the tone of the "you fail forever" index, even though a few of them already had "more respective" counterparts.

But yes, merge them. Preferably Art Major Biology should be the name the combined page takes because it was that way first.

Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#3: Oct 21st 2013 at 3:38:33 PM

Yeah, merge.

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
mikurufan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#4: Oct 21st 2013 at 3:47:47 PM

I think there are other Art Major tropes too. I was always confused on the diatinction.

Merge.

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Oct 21st 2013 at 3:51:00 PM

Merge under Artistic License – Biology. We're trying to get the various "..is crying", "Fail X Forever" and other such pages consolidated as "Artistic License - X" and get them cleaned up. In this case there was You Fail Biology Forever as a complaining and snarking page, and Art Major Biology as a "wrong.. but it's really cool" page.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7: Oct 21st 2013 at 9:06:33 PM

Pretty clear-cut merge here, not much to discuss. I guess it fell through the cracks last time.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Oct 21st 2013 at 11:02:46 PM

Merge.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AmyGdala Since: Oct, 2012
#9: Oct 22nd 2013 at 12:44:16 AM

Merge them, but can we try to find some trope here, rather than giving them the name Errors.Biology?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Oct 22nd 2013 at 12:50:05 AM

You are allowed to YKTTW new tropes. That said, the purpose of these pages is to list errors, so that people who find a convention in there have examples and material to fill YKTTWs with.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AmyGdala Since: Oct, 2012
#11: Oct 22nd 2013 at 1:07:50 AM

We had a long conversation about this a year ago, didn't we?

Right, merge them.

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#12: Oct 22nd 2013 at 2:40:02 AM

Why would we have a page called Errors Biology? We decided awhile ago that we aren't really about complaining about "mistakes".

The Artistic License family of tropes already does a fairly good job a categorizing unrealistic things used for the sake of storytelling. I see no reason why these two pages would not

Also, just to plug the project, we have another thread going to fix any lingering problems with the descriptions of these tropes. The only reason I'm doing a thread here is because page mergers is usually a TRS job instead of a Projects job.

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
#13: Oct 22nd 2013 at 8:54:53 AM

I still say under art major because its older, and thus better.

Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#14: Oct 22nd 2013 at 9:14:06 AM

Of the two, Art Major Biology is the more established name and IMO it just sounds better (Artistic License X has just never rolled off the tongue for me, I'd prefer Aristic License In X or Artistic X License).

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
mikurufan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#15: Oct 22nd 2013 at 11:05:07 AM

It seems to be made up by this site.

The title sounds like biological knowledge an art major would have, which in a way indicates the trope. But Artistic License is the accepted neutral snowclone family to make it not look like a complaining page.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#16: Oct 22nd 2013 at 11:23:40 AM

What passes for complaining is very variable.

MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#17: Oct 22nd 2013 at 11:36:19 AM

We want to make it so less tropes look to be complaining so it doesn't build up.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#18: Oct 22nd 2013 at 12:04:15 PM

Would be better if they didn't have titles like Art Major Biology too, probably limit the moaning to a quiet grumbling in the corner.

edited 22nd Oct '13 12:04:46 PM by treelo

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#19: Oct 22nd 2013 at 12:07:18 PM

The bigger issue I see with that is that the merge in the AMB —> ALB direction was decided quite a long time ago, in the "You Fail X Forever" rename topics.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#20: Oct 22nd 2013 at 3:41:37 PM

Besides, Artistic License – Biology is the larger and more referenced trope here anyway.

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Oct 22nd 2013 at 4:17:28 PM

Yeah, there's going to need to be a much better reason to merge under Art Major Biology than "it's the older page."

Art Major Biology: 147 wicks, no redirects, 487 inbounds.

Artistic License – Biology: 1394 wicks, 619 wicks on three redirects, 3016 inbounds.

edited 22nd Oct '13 4:20:07 PM by Madrugada

MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#22: Oct 22nd 2013 at 6:33:15 PM

These are the reasons I see for merging into Artistic License – Biology:

  1. Artistic License is a preexisting term
  2. Artistic License - X is the accepted, neutral snowclone for the subject
  3. Artistic License – Biology is the larger trope

edited 22nd Oct '13 6:33:19 PM by MikuruFan

MrL1193 Since: Apr, 2013
#23: Oct 22nd 2013 at 9:43:54 PM

The physics equivalent, Art Major Physics, already redirects to Artistic License – Physics. It would make sense to keep things consistent one way or another.

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#24: Oct 23rd 2013 at 11:46:27 AM

^^^ Okay, I guess my complaint then is I just don't like the aesthetic of a hyphen being used as a separator; I would rather see it as e.g. Artistic License (Physics) than Artistic License – Physics.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011

Total posts: 35
Top