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As for whether Nick allows the use of "Hell", that's a [citation needed]
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We should say "allowed" and not "allows" because this was the early 1990s.
I found one claim
that they censored a usage of "hell" on an old Looney Tunes cartoon (the "Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon" program ran around the same time as Rugrats). And Rocko's Modern Life lampshading that they can't say "Hell" because of censors seems like something.
Man, the ratings are super fucking arbitrary. There's too many unspoken rules that the audience can't really know for certain, besides what the ratings boards narrow it down to say on the warning labels. A program can be censored the same way 9/10 times, but it's not clear if it's against the network rules because it's not written down.
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 4th 2021 at 2:53:12 PM
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House of Anubis used the word "Hell", but in a Biblical sense.
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Ontarian here who was born in the late 1980s.
The F rating in Ontario refers to the former Family rating, which has since been replaced with the G rating in 2003.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Apr 4th 2021 at 10:34:42 AM
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Gonna randomly jump in here. Since Goosebumps has been brought up, I figured I'd look through The Haunting Hour. I actually did an interview with one of the writers recently so this is a rare case of having at least Word of God to work with. The show is rated TV-PG and even has a Content Warning. Thus, all examples about dark subject matter and the like can be cut, since that's kind of how it got that raitng to begin with. That writer further confirmed this by saying the network allowed all the dark stuff and only stepped in when it threatned to get too explict about it and thus they always complies with that. So there's that.
The swearing examples can be cut too, that's allowed in TV-PG. I'm not as sure on the rest, some are and others fit in under the rating. The Groin Attack one can be cut since that's not radar dogdging as I think has been mentiioned here.
The Walls example is iffy. The actual context is that the dad says "He was 114 years old. He had a 29 year girlfriend. You do the math". It's unclear if they're implying he died of old age or what, but it does seem to lean that way more than anything else. I think this was put here for the big age gap thing and I don't think that's enough to fit.
Aargh V one is really stretching.
Lotsa Luck one is just a joke about cheating, would only count if it implied anything sexual but it doesn't so it can be cut. The Nightmare Inn could count but that's about it for ones that could stay and even then I think that kind of joke could be allowed under TV-PG.
(Too lazy to paste the whole page here like others have been doing, sorry)
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Is that interview publicly available? If so, the dark stuff may qualify as Surprisingly Lenient Censor.
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Might as well go through Xiaolin Showdown and Xiaolin Chronicles while I'm at it.
Sidenote: Xiaolin Showdown is rated TV-Y7 and Xiaolin Chronicles is rated TV-Y7-FV, I have no idea how American ratings work so I'll need some help with this.
The Season 1 episode "Tangled Web" features several brazenly sexist remarks against Kimiko (mostly from Omi) stating how women are both physically and mentally weak and require men to help them do everything except for cooking. Had the episode not involved Kimiko defying the "damsel in distress" stereotype, the episode might have been banned at worst or toned down due to Executive Meddling at best. You Go, Girl! Also "If it weren't for X, then Y would've happened" feels speculative. Regardless, this entry relies on stuff that didn't happen so there's no Radar dodging here.
From the episode "Bird of Paradise":
- Jack Spicer: If anybody deserves the Bird, it's me!
Likewise, from "Year of the Green Monkey":
- Omi: Now, if you all will kindly look away, I feel the urge to scratch in a place that I have never scratched before!
And before that, Jack, under the influence of the Monkey Staff, quite clearly bites Omi's butt. Omi returns the favor, while completely human. Joke of the Butt.
From the episode "The New Order", after a battle with Chase's jungle cats that are now under Jack's control:
- Clay: Well it's not too bad, most of the Wu are still here.Raimundo: Not too bad? It was a disaster! I got cat spit in places that I don't even like to think about!!
A rather stealthy one, in "The Emperor Scorpion Strikes Back", one of Jack's Ring Of Nine Dragons clones is a donkey. A jackass. Pretty sure stealth puns don't go here also, is jackass really a forbidden word when it's referring to a donkey?
Omi's Blunt Metaphors Trauma can do this sometimes.
- Omi: I am in heat!Raimundo: No, Omi, you're "on fire"!
In "The Demon Seed," Master Fung, Dojo, Kimiko, and Clay get turned into plants. While Raimundo and Omi are tending to them, Omi grabs some kind of apple from Clay's belt area and eats it, causing the horrified cowboy to protest, "Be careful what you go pluckin' there, partner!" Groin Attack isn't forbidden.
In "Treasure of the Blind Swordsman", the Blind Seer guarding it has a tendency to mishear things.
- Blind Seer: (captured) Hold on! Where are you taking me? I have to use the bathroom!'''Wuya: (To Jack) What about the treasure chest?Blind Seer: What? That's disgusting!! (Beat) ...you talking to me?
This gag from "Oil in the Family" involving Chase and Jack discussing "disloyal partners". Weblinks Are Not Examples, This fits AI more, anyway.
"In The Flesh" has a really subtle one in which Omi, sitting behind Kimiko, has a wide grin on his face while they're riding on Dojo. If you pay close attention, you'll notice that he seems to be getting a nice view up her skirt. If you have to squint, it isn't Radar, I'm pretty sure this is AI.
How does human!Wuya wake Jack up while he's suntanning in his boxers? She pours a cup of water right on his crotch. Jack's girly screams do not help in any way. Groin Attack? Toilet Humor? Either way, it isn't Radar.
Dudebot in "The Deep Freeze" basically commits suicide. He isn't human though. He committed suicide by removing the Heart of Jong from his chest. I'm pretty sure this doesn't count.
In the same episode Omi holds up a carrot asking if anyone wants to make a snowman - which makes sense in context, but due to how Omi is holding it, the grin and his small figure which makes the carrot look huge in comparison the image itself is rather questionable. AI.
This exchange in The New Order:
- Jack: Well, I've got something that you don't!Chase: *smirking* Very small hands?Jack: *annoyed* No.
Kimiko's "Fire!" Invocation can look a little questionable if you don't notice that she's wearing tights under her somewhat- Qipao-styled Xiaolin robe. Given that they are slightly lighter than she is, you might miss them. Bruh, the camera doesn't focus on her legs, this is Grandma's Chicken Salad. Really weird as well because she's a minor.
In "Something Jermaine" when Omi screws up Jermaine's retrieval of the Shen Gong Wu, Jermaine asks Omi if he's tripping. Either the writers weren't aware that "tripping" is slang for being under the influence of the questionable drug LSD, or the censors didn't. However, it can be neither, as "tripping" (often spelled and pronounced as "trippin'") has been (and still is) used as street slang meaning "to be crazy" or "to be kidding around." This entry is arguing with itself. It's referring to slang associated with drugs, but it isn't referring to drugs itself. Don't think this counts.
The "Woozy Shooter" is a Shen-Gon-Wu that emits a gas that causes people to act silly and experience bizarre hallucinations - somewhat similar to the effects of psychedelic drugs (however, the episode arguably portrays the drug experience negatively, as it used against the Xiaolin monks to hinder them during the episode - so this is likely why it wasn't regarded as promoting recreational drug use). Heck, its shape is similar to either a hookah or a bong. The effects of the Woozy Shooter sound like G-Rated Drug, the design sounds like PB.
In "Wu Got The Power" after Jack says something stupid, Hannibal Roy Bean speculates he must have an extra chromosome, a subtle way of implying Down's Syndrome or mental retardation in general. Stealth Insult.
In "Time and Time Again part 1" We see where overlord jack keeps the other major villains prisoner. Wuya is hanging on the wall dressed up like a cheerleader, and Chase Young is restrained while...a machine spreads butter on his abdomen...
- It's yellow paint. Yellow belly is an insult meaning coward
The Reveal of The Mole in the second episode is thusly marred.
- Omi: And she is very much in heat!Raimundo: Hot. You mean she's hot.
Shadow is essentially Chase's daughter. Not only do they keep flirting after this revelation, she outright calls him "yummy" and he declares her a romanatic. Hello Parental Incest. Pretty sure this isn't Radar worthy.
Episode 5 has actual crap, elephant to be precise. Also includes a close-up. Toilet Humor + Gross-Up Close-Up, not Radar.
Episode 8 has Jack express disgust after spying on Chase and Shadow communicating face-to-face by hissing. Wuya then immediately tries to do the same with Jack and even follows him into his fancy toilet when he tries to run away, saying, "Ooh la la, what big . . . hands." Seems valid. The pause at the end makes me hesitate though, I admittedly haven't seen XC.
Episode 11 has a disco outhouse to relive stress in various ways. Too vague, this feels more like PB.
Episode 17 has the following, which is lampshaded:
- Jack: Feel the power of my mighty wand!Kimiko: He did not just say that.
In "Super Cow Patty", Jack approaches the eponymous character to ask for his autograph, and asks if he can sign it, "To my HORN-iest fan, Jack?" A nervous Cow Patty replies, "Uh, how about biggest fan?" Later subverted, as the line was cut in the Disney XD airing to read "horn fan", but stays intact on the Amazon Prime Video version. If it got cut by Disney XD then it doesn't count. I don't think Amazon has standards, might fit DIH more if they did.
In "Out of Ping Pong's Mind", after Chase loses the showdown near the end of the episode to Ping-Pong, we get this exchange:
- Shadow: Looks like that plan wasn't so evil, was it?Chase: (growls in annoyance) bite me.
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- From "Alien Candy":
Bully: ''Looks like somebody grew a pair."
- Kell's nickname in "Game Over" is "Kell-Raiser," which is three letters off from a mild swear ("hell")
- The word "hell-raiser" was actually said on "The Return of Lilly D" by the crazy old woman who was forced to make dolls by the Really You company. She described Lilly D as a "hell-raiser," then says, "Pardon my French."
- In "The Walls," Jeffery's dad tells Jeffery that the Klemit (a sugar-addicted demon that lives in his bedroom wall) didn't kill the old man who lived in their house; it was the fact that the old man was 114 and had a 29-year-old girlfriend.
- In "Wrong Number", when Mrs. Biazevich confronts the girls in their room about the loud music, Steffani replies with a very sarcastic "Sure thing, Mrs. Biaze-VICH." The delivery of the line sounds awfully close to "Biaze-bitch".
- Creature Feature gives us this gem right after John, who was turned into a tick creature, was on the receiving end of a Groin Attack. The actual impact occurs off-screen, but the dialogue makes it obvious what happened:
Nathan: Ooh! Right in the...Lisa: In the what? Does he even still have any?(John doubles over in pain)Nathan: I'll take that as a yes.
- "Seance" mentions the ghost of Cyrus Clayton who was fired for drinking alcohol on the job, then brutally murdered his boss before his leg was shredded in an accident and he bled to death.
- "Coat Rack Cowboy": Ethan and Frank first encounter Mad Dog McCoy in a Western saloon, where he's swilling whiskey.
- Mad Dog McCoy's story of how he died: he shot the town sheriff, then ran for the hills until a posse of cowboys caught him and hanged him. He still has the noose scars on his neck.
- In Dead Bodies, Jake tells Will to "Go to Hell." He may have meant the actual place, since Will is a ghost and is in between the mortal world and the afterlife, but it's still not something you'd normally hear on a children's network (despite that the show is rated TV-PG for scary/disturbing content).
- Jake forcing Anna to shake her hand comes off with some rape-like undertones.
- The antagonist of "My Old House" draws several parallels to that of a pedophile. The villain lures the protagonist away by showing her more love than her parents do, gives her sweets, and promises to take care of her as long a she remains loyal. Even further, the antagonist also shows signs of being a domestic abuser when he doesn't get what he wants.
- In "Argh V," Sam's parents cheerfully remark that "you are what you eat!"...prompting Sam's father to call himself a "fruit cup." One wonders if the scriptwriter added the "cup" to that line to prevent the negative connotations of "fruit."
- In general, the many times kid protagonists end up dead — Will from "The Dead Body," Alex from "Sick", Audrey, Halftime, and Katie in "Detention," Sam and her family in "Argh V," the reference to the kids who died while playing with Mangler on "Near Mint Condition."
- From Lotsa Luck:
- Greg's Dad: (arriving home) "There's my favorite family!"Greg's Mom: "Better be your only family."
- This gem from Nightmare Inn:
- Jill's Mom:: "This is the first time you're father and I-Jill:: "TMI"Jill's Mom:: "What? We had our first Sunday brunch here"
Yeah, there's nothing there that goes beyond TV-PG. IMDB doesn't give any other age ratings.
Rainbow: Here's the official rating descriptions.
As to a few specific things:
- Jackass can refer to either a donkey or a foolish person. Ass without jack can mean those things, and is also a coarse word for the rear end. Ass on its own can trigger the radar, but jackass is fine.
- Chase getting butter spread on his tummy just sounds like Cool and Unusual Punishment and Rule of Funny; plus, the natter is correct that it's a Stealth Insult.
- Wuya following Jack to the toilet and remarking on his big... "hands" sounds like Naked People Are Funny, possibly DIH.
- Amazon Prime actually does have age ratings. Super Cow Patty does have prominent horns, so I figure this falls under PB and DIH.
Edited by VampireBuddha on Apr 5th 2021 at 12:05:52 PM
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Oh sure: https://spongey444.wordpress.com/2021/03/19/an-interview-with-erik-patterson/
If you just want the important part, abiet truncated a bit:
"That was a great creative situation because the creators of that show and the network execs at The Hub were really open to the darker moments and deeper themes.... Speaking of Pumpkinheads, I remember our original ending to the first Pumpkinheads was much much darker than the one that eventually got made. If I’m remembering correctly, I think the Pumpkinheads won and got all of the kids at the end…and the network asked us to make that a little less explicit."
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Sorry to effortpost, but I'd like to see if this example could be added to the main page or if there's some mitigating factor. According to the wiki, it is confirmed in the episode commentary that this got past the censors, probably because of a technicality with the word not explicitly being "cunt," but still very clearly meant to be "cunt." (It's South Park; there's already an example from the show on the page.)
- As Matt and Trey confirmed in the commentary, "Something You Can Do With Your Finger" got away with using the word "cunt" uncensored in "Wendy's Cussing Song" despite being one of the few profane words considered too extreme to go unbleeped at the time. It helps that the song is based off subverting Curse Cut Short so it doesn't seem like she said "cunt" on paper.
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I also believe there was an entry about Kenny's lines in early episodes (including the theme song) being used to get uncensored cursing past the radar, as he's The Unintelligible but one can listen closely and frequently hear the word "fuck" in his dialogue without the network having to censor him. I think the creators confirmed they used Kenny like that as well. Would that count or is it too subtle?
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 5th 2021 at 11:58:14 AM
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Yes for "cunt"; it sounds like that was intentional.
As for Kenny saying "fuck", I would say the fact that he's so muffled means it's in a sense bleeped. If you have to br primed to hear the word, it's little different to hearing Satanic messages when playing records backwards.
Edited by VampireBuddha on Apr 5th 2021 at 5:13:52 PM
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Yeah, that makes sense. But it's still audible, so it's not like the word is covered up with a bleep. It's just subtle enough for the censors to not hear. I thought maybe it could be the audio equivalent to the "bloody GIR" image that was faded and brief enough to get past the Invader Zim censors.
Funny enough, there is a commercial where they claim Kenny's dialogue has Satanic messages backwards, but it's obviously a joke.
Also, there's another episode in which they get away with "cunt" using a similar trick, but that aired much later so I wasn't sure if the censors were the same as in 2000, and the wiki doesn't have the same note about it.
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 5th 2021 at 1:08:10 PM
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I agree with this. Kenny is extremely difficult to understand for me still, and I've been watching the show for 15 years. The muffle is more effective in obscuring what he's saying than a beep would be, imo.
EDIT: work is boring so I've been thinking about this, and I can't recall a single instance of Kenny saying something that would have gotten past the extremely lenient Comedy Central radar. Beyond that, thoughts:
1. Matt and Trey have talked about using Kenny to slide more dirty jokes and swearing in for decades, to no obvious intervention from Comedy Central. I'd assume this means their censors don't really care about Kenny's speech.
2. I remember one of Kenny's famous muffled lines being something like "I love big titties". If all he's doing is at this level and peppering his speech with "fuck", his dialogue isn't exceptionally bad in comparison with other characters.
Edited by LargoQuagmire on Apr 5th 2021 at 2:50:27 AM
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Point taken. I did remember the bit about Matt and Trey using Kenny to say more explicit dirty jokes (I don't know exactly what CC censored back in the day barring the Mohammed controversy; I only know that the movie was rife with censorship battles, but IDK if any of that counts as GCPTR), but I don't know if that ever reached GCPTR levels.
On another note, I do like the way the main page generally looks, but I think it should be organized in a way that makes it easier to find examples, not just organized by alphabet. Maybe organize it by region or by medium or something? It's just very strange to see the MTV folder sandwiched between Lego and the Nazi regime.
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 5th 2021 at 1:16:00 PM
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Hmm. Organising by medium doesn't really work. BBFC and IFCO both cover movies and TV shows; the ACB covers those media as well as video games. Maybe something like:
Ratings agencies Government laws Internal company standards Others
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This is the entirety of the Camp Lakebottom page:
- In the episode "Voyage to the Bottom of the Deep" the protagonists battle a giant squid, stomping one of its tentacles which gets McGee and Gretchin to cringe. Tentacles sounds like testicles.
- The same episode also gave us the line "It's too big even for Squirt's butt!"
- "Trouble in Spit Creek" gives us the multitool named the I.M.A.Tool to which McGee promptly replies "I know you are, but what is that?"
- "Rise of the Dawn of the Beginning of the Planet of Armand" has McGee make a Fantastic Racism joke, which one character thinks "is funny because it's true", causing shocked expressions from Armand, Gretchin and Squirt. Most likely they only got away with it because it didn't involve any actual ethnicities.
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Those are all easy cuts. The "it's too big for Squirt's butt" line might be Accidental Innuendo but the rest is Grandma's Chicken Salad. (I love that we have a term for that now!![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
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Grandma's Chicken Salad?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Vampire coined it here. Basically for those entries when nothing was dirty and it's not even a decent Accidental Innuendo. Though I'd like a more succinct and clear codename for it as well. Maybe "nonnuendo." (Non innuendo.) Or just "forced weirdness" or something straightforward. 
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 6th 2021 at 4:34:55 AM
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Are there specific areas or canons that need to be reviewed for this cleanup? Happy to help wherever.
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- Flick Duck has a Precocious Crush on the soccer star Mia Lamb. When she appears on-screen in one episode, Flick faints the instant he recognizes her. This tastes like Grandma's chicken salad to me. I could be wrong, but I see nothing wrong with this.
The Toilet Humor mentioned on the main page certainly counts as well. In fact, in "Three's a Crowd", Opal downright says that she has to change a "poopy diaper". Just how was Jumbo Pictures able to get the word "poop" (or any derivative thereof) past Disney Channel S&P? I understand this is a preschool show...but what's so wrong with a mention of "Poop"? Tons of other preschool shows do it.
Baby Butter's Imagine Spot in "The Legend of Ponce de L'Otter" has her take off her diaper and toss it in the lake to absorb all of the water from Lake Hoohaw so that the rest of the cast can go find Ponce de L'Otter's lost telescope. We guess this was intended as Naked People Are Funny more than an attempt to get something Disney would normally reject past their censors. On the fence.
In "Bubbles' Beginnings", Peanut responds to his parents telling him and his two sisters to give back Bubbles with the line "Even if Ootsie and Bootsie don't give a flip about Bubbles?", which includes an euphemism for the F bomb. Do euphamisms count? It's like saying "What the what?" flip is a euphamism, but that normally gets through just fine. Although, since its meant for young children, I suppose it could count.
Edited by DookieIdiotNimrod on Apr 6th 2021 at 2:25:47 PM
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Just jump in wherever you feel you can lend a hand. Right now we're focused on the Radar/ namespace.
In my country, we use "flip!" as an invective, and it's not a curse; it's on the level of exclaiming "Oh, sugar!" when something goes wrong. About the only people who will object are the kind who consider "stupid" to be bad language.
Edited by VampireBuddha on Apr 6th 2021 at 9:34:26 AM
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None of those are valid. Cut them all.
Okay, I'm gonna comb through some of these subpages. I see canons I know with massive pages and... Hoo...
the "Rapoozle had a prince climb up her hair every night" part might be Accidental Innuendo because the "every night" part may suggest sex but that's still a long shot.
Playboy can be Parental Bonus.
The "bopping his Boppo" example can be Accidental Innuendo if only because I've seen jokes about it made multiple times.
Lonely Space Vixens is Demographically Inappropriate Humour. "Vixen" has sexual connotations and the way Lou says the line
(with a raise of the eyebrow) doesn't really sound innocent to me.
The Clarence Thomas hearings aren't really Noodle Incident as they're referring to a real sexual harassment scandal from the 1990s
. So it is referencing something inappropriate but it's so inexplicit it's likely Parental Bonus.
I don't quite know if you could say "hell" on 1990s Nickelodeon. Worth noting that Rocko's Modern Life had a joke where they censored "Hell" to "heck" in an episode about Hell that aired around the same time and cited the censors.
"Little Willy" might be Accidental Innuendo. Andrew Dice Clay appearing here could be WTH, Casting Agency? but it's not like actors can't do works of varying levels of family-friendliness. Bob Saget was not the sanitary guy he played on Full House. Trey fucking Parker was in a Despicable Me film.
"Born under Venus" may be Demographically Inappropriate Humor, since I'm pretty sure you can't say "penis" on a G-rating. Same with the circumcision joke. I'm pretty sure it's an unspoken rule that kids' shows don't go into details about genitalia, but since it's unspoken, it's not GCPTR.
As for the naked fairy, this
is the cover of the box art, and her nudity is almost entirely covered up by her legs with no sign of cleavage or genitals or anything, so it's not very objectionable.
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 4th 2021 at 12:46:58 PM
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