Lost in Space
Indeed. Those are Word of God examples.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Maybe I'm looking at the trope to narrowly, but I don't see any Something Else Also Rises in there.
Dropping a note that we have a TRS thread
on this.
Someone declined the Family Guy cut request.
Really? I dunno but I think most were agreed it didn't have a radar to try and get crap past... It's like implicitly stating this trope is fine as is and that's kinda the problem.
edited 28th Nov '13 2:49:22 PM by treelo
Hmmm ... I could see valid examples from that in form of Explicit Content - I would try out with a very detailed cut reason.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I agree, probably isn't that simple but if we can pare it down at least there mightn't be enough content to justify it being off on another page.
edited 28th Nov '13 11:58:45 PM by treelo
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I'm wondering if what I mentioned here about entries not crosswicked into GCPTR and entries in related tropes is applicable to this thread...
Bumping to repost something from YKTTW Crash Rescue: Radar.Homestar Runner. That work doesn't look like it goes through a censor, so it shouldn't probably have examples of it.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Again, new to the convo.
From what I understand, here's what qualifies as Getting Crap Past the Radar.
- It has to be at least a little subtle. As in, not a blatant sexual innuendo. Alluding to, but not stating or referencing outright, something radar-worthy.
- It has to be blatantly intentional, as in, it's not a case of reading into things or tweaking something totally innocent into an innuendo.
- It has to actually have objectionable content (sex, swearing, nudity) for the rating. This is somewhat subjective, as there are tons of topics that some may consider taboo (homosexuality, for example, especially in more conservative networks or networks that avoid sexuality altogether) but others don't.
There are a lot of conditions to satisfy, which is what I think tends to get this trope misused, especially since you can't always ask Word of God or read minds. Like, how does one compensate between both blatant attempts and subtle fashions of sneaking stuff past? How subtle or blatant must references be? I think that's what causes a lot of confusion and non-examples.
I cut Radar.The Lion King Adventures on the account of having not enough examples. They were moved to Radar.Other
edited 29th Nov '14 6:34:36 PM by randomtroper89
Pomeranian Lover
The Pokemon page for this has a few instances where it looks to me like people are reading sexual connotations into things that aren't intended that way. Should I go and cut some of them out? I tend to NOT see things as being sexual as much as other people here seem to, though, so I don't know if I would be cutting out things that actually are innuendoes that I just don't notice. This dialogue I noticed that was mentioned on the page is one that I don't think is intended to be sexual unless you're trying to see sexual connotations in everything:
- The first NPC in Lavaridge Gym has this to say about Flannery: "Don't get too close to her-you'll burn! Hose her down with water and then go for it!"
I suppose one could read a "wet t-shirt contest" implication in it, but I thought it was pretty obvious that it's referring to type matchups. It also mentions Ghetsis trying to "kill" the player character as something that was snuck past the censors but that was a mistranslation, in both the Japanese and English versions he's just trying to freeze the player (which could kill them too but it doesn't mention killing in the dialogue).
edited 2nd Dec '14 8:21:05 AM by Rainbow
That entry seems like plausible advice to me. Not likely that that text was meant to be this trope.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Yeah, while it's easy to take out of context, admittedly for perverts such as myself, it doesn't actually sound like it was meant to deliberately make a naughty/etc. joke at all. It's a legit suggestion.
I support cutting it. There's a lot more obvious stuff anyway that actually fits.(Onix ramming into an open Cave constantly? And Steelix doing the same? Pretty blatant... especially after the Anime is a lot more okay with this during 4Kids run. When you get the exact joke of "Perverse Psychology", it's a bit obvious they had no issues with the innuendo)
...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.
Pomeranian Lover
Okay, I'll take that quote from the Lavaridge Gym off of the page.
The Unknown
Going off of Sailor Moon fan above, I'm not sure about these examples on the Pokemon Ruby And Sapphire page.
Originals
- The little girl outside the Seashore House invites you in with a little poem that starts off with the line "If you're hot-to-trot." Hot-to-trot is a mildly rude phrase for being ready or eager to do something, or, a little more commonly, sexually excited.
- Note that while Brendan uses a backpack to store his items in, May uses a hip pack, which as you can see in her official art◊, is right in the back of her waist. Take a look at her overworld sprite, and you can see that it visibly protrudes out behind her... in the worst spot. And it even flops back and forth when she runs.
Remakes
- In Prof Cozmo's father's room in Sea Mauville, a magazine found underneath a bed with chewed-up sheets reads, "The Fame and the Shame! Champions Exposed!"
- There's a member of Game Freak in-game whose obsession with the female Tubers and Twins is a bit...excessive.
- A Team Aqua/Magma Grunt guarding one of the bridges in Route 119 complains the Admins are having a bit of "private time" in the Weather Institute, while he and his companions are standing outside.
- An NPC in the Oceanic Museum in Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire states, "I get all giddy and gooey when I see the sea."
- In the Space Museum, a girl gazing at the model rocket will say "This Rocket! Thick!"
- A pair of NPCs of the Teammates class inhabit a locked room on Sea Mauville. The senior asks the player he or she got in there, having sworn she locked the door. She gives you the next key to get you to go away, saying she was teaching her junior how hard it is to be a Pokémon Trainer. The junior just blushes.
- Team Aqua Admin Matt in Alpha Sapphire is a large, buff, dark-skinned man who says he loves "strong, interesting dudes" such as his "bro" Archie. He also says he'll start loving the player character too, regardless of the player character's sex.
- Mega Lopunny's black legs with brown spots resembles a torn pantyhose, which makes sense given the fact that Lopunny are based upon the Playboy Bunny (and thus, the very existence of this Pokémon is one big Getting Crap Past the Radar).
edited 5th Dec '14 7:01:06 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Most of those look pretty bad. I'm not familiar enough to judge for certain with some, but I'd cut these three without blinking an eye:
- Note that while Brendan uses a backpack to store his items in, May uses a hip pack, which as you can see in her official art, is right in the back of her waist. Take a look at her overworld sprite, and you can see that it visibly protrudes out behind her... in the worst spot. And it even flops back and forth when she runs.
- An NPC in the Oceanic Museum in Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire states, "I get all giddy and gooey when I see the sea."
- In the Space Museum, a girl gazing at the model rocket will say "This Rocket! Thick!"
edited 5th Dec '14 7:34:16 PM by nrjxll
Crazyrabbits
^ I don't think YT ever did. As long as it's not outright pornography (and even that has stayed up for long periods of time, in the case of certain erotic shows like Red Shoe Diaries), it's carte blanche.
edited 17th Dec '14 10:48:10 AM by crazyrabbits
"In Koihime†Musou, while describing the Nanban elephant, it is mentioned that part of its body is long, strong, and moves on its own. And in another episode, a group of bandits capture Ryuubi, and they later declare that they would "take care" of Ryuubi. And as you may have guessed, they get their butts handed to them." — is a Parental Bonus instead, right?
Also, the anime/manga section seems to ooze emotion of tropers who wrote the entries. That's not good per How To Write An Example, either, isn't it?
Edit/update: If what the first post quotes off Fighteer is solid, then the Getting Crap Past the Radar description should have a "Contrast Parental Bonus" something, not "Compare..."
edited 19th Dec '14 6:53:35 AM by NemuruMaeNi
Like reflections in the glass!
What are your thoughts on the following subpages?
My $0.02? The first one's header implies it more of an aversion (if the censors quit, then then's no radar to pass), the 2nd one has an example that implies they are incompetent (stuff like "Risky Boots is MADE of this trope") and the 3rd one is similar to the first one (I doubt that there's be a Censorship Bureau or Media Watchdogs for pinball)
edited 13th Apr '15 12:52:18 PM by MorningStar1337
Lost in Space
Pinball machines have (well, had) to get into arcades where kids played them; there is an implied radar even if there's no actual ratings board for the games. Examples would have to be pretty extreme, though. If the game contained graphic sex imagery, such that parents were shocked that a public arcade would have something so explicit, then sure, it counts. If it's someone complaining that a piece of the machine looks like a penis if you squint at it the right way, then no.
Edit: I just reviewed the pinball page.
- The Dave Christensen example should stay; it's clear that it was intentional.
- The Star Trek one sounds coincidental or Parental Bonus at best. Cut.
- No Good Gofers: Cut.
- Scared Stiff: Sounds like a real winner. Keep and fix indentation. Unless, of course, it was marketed as a "mature" game — and it sounds like the radar did, indeed, catch a lot.
- Hurricane: Maybe. Who was it marketed to?
- Police Force: Parental Bonus; no kid not old enough to know about drugs already would get the reference. Cut.
- Popeye: Parental Bonus if you squint very hard. Cut.
edited 13th Apr '15 1:23:29 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
I don't think this example from the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic page is an example of GCPTR. Sounds like a Parental Bonus.
- "Look Before You Sleep" features a book called Slumber 101: All You've Ever Wanted to Know About Slumber Parties (But Were Afraid to Ask), referring to the widely known sex guide Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask).
I mean, if we include this, then shouldn't we also include the ponies who are clearly an allusion to The Big Lebowski?
Lost in Space
That is Parental Bonus, indeed. Clear misuse.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
For The Simpsons, the ones where the writers say that they're surprised that the Standards and Practices people let it through would definitely count, regardless of wht the content that was passed is. That's precisely what GC Pt R is — S&P (Standards and Practices); the censors. Anything where we have Word of God or Word of Paul that something was expected to be removed but it wasn't qualifies.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.