I wouldn't get too hang up on the notion, though. Danny is still so inexperienced, this version of Misty would come off as a cradle robber. And yes, I know Danny is older than that, but emotionally he is basically a teenager. This works with Colleen, because the same it true for her.
I'd like for Misty/Dany to be canon, because it was sort of A Big Deal culturally in American comics. They were the first mixed race super hero couple. And while it's starting to change a black woman is not usually paired with white men in stories about mixed race couples. And this perpetuates the idea that black women are not as desirable as white women. Also, I'm not even sure Coleen/Dany will or should stay together though I admit the show sold me on it. I honestly don't really care what they do as long as it makes sense. I think Misty and Danny probably have more in common than you would think at first glance, but I definitely don't want to see it shoe horned into the story.
If they sell it well, I am okay with it, but currently I am way too invested in Danny and Coleen as a couple. Plus, while is was a big deal in the comics, it wouldn't have the same impact in the MCU, in which we have already several mixed race couples - at least on the TV side (the movies go more for humans plus aliens mixes). Mack and Elena, May and Andrew, Danny and Colleen, Luke and Jessica, soon Cloak and Dagger, maybe May and Coulson....having a race mixed couple has been treated as something perfectly normal, it would be odd to now try and make a point of it.
It's interesting that with both Danny and Luke, Marvel put them together with whichever prominent female character was available in the story they wanted to tell since their canon love interests couldn't be there yet romantic relationships are evidently obligatory, and now they're in an awkward position where all those characters are finally together and they have to decide whether to switch, mix and match, reship half the characters or to simply stick stick to their guns.
edited 16th Aug '17 9:30:45 PM by KnownUnknown
Doesn't really seem like that big a deal to me. People get together and break up all the time, and not immediately stumbling into The One in the first season of a show seems more realistic. Luke and Jessica probably will get back together, Misty and Luke's one-night thing might have been just that, him and Claire are still pretty experimental, Danny and Colleen's relationship doesn't have to be their Forever Love or whatever, and Matt in his current state is pretty bad news for anyone and everyone, and I think he actually knows that, even if god knows he's terrible at steering away from his own certain doom.
The Netflix shows showing how these characters fall in and out of love is one of the things I like about them. Hell, the most stable relationship is probably actually going to end up being Wilson and Vanessa Fisk— that seems like the kind of bitter irony of which these shows are fond.
edited 17th Aug '17 1:49:38 AM by Unsung
It's not being cynical. There are billions of people on Earth, and fictional couples who stay together just because they're already together, because breaking up is sad, *that's* unrealistic. Thinking that the hurt feelings from breakups must 'realistically' destroy any associated friendships or working relationships, I find that more cynical. They certainly can and do, but assuming they will, assuming the worst, that those interpersonal breaks can't ever be repaired— that's what's cynical.
edited 17th Aug '17 12:07:50 AM by Unsung
But that's Oliver Queen's superpower!
I haven't watched IF, so I can't say anything about Danny/Coleen, but I don't think the MCU is bad at dealing with romance. Or more accurately, the romances fit the characters. Jessica is a nervous wreck, so the romance she has she eventually screws. Matt's romances reflect his inability to deal with his violent urges, with him ending up single. Luke is a smooth-talking ladies' man, but also an unambiguously heroic and respectful man, so he is shown being on very good terms with exes.
Luke is basically the adult of the bunch. He deals with romance like an adult, and not like a drama-prone teenager.
They need to touch on the Luke/Jessica thing in SOME capacity at least imo. It was left completely open-ended at the end of her show, and Luke learned in his that his wife had her fair share of skeletons in her closet. So it'll be interesting to see if his viewpoint has changed now.
I'm not nearly as invested in Danny/Colleen just because it was then that her character started going downhill writing-wise imo.
... Eh.. My take-away was that they had nuked that romance from orbit until it glowed. I mean, they are a very stable couple in the comics, but the netflix shows? Nooope. I can see them working together, but rekindling the relationship? A tad too many landmines there
edited 17th Aug '17 10:42:31 AM by Izeinsummer
Yeah, I'm sure it'll be addressed. I don't think they'll put aside all their issues just yet, but I don't think it's entirely off the table as far as the writers are concerned— but as very much the noir detective archetype, I think they want Jessica to have an old flame and lost love, a happily ever after that she might not ever actually get.
I suspect that was the writer room's plan, but of course plans can change. Definitely wouldn't rule it out, though.
I honestly don't know where it'll go at this point. I mean initially their relationship was also pretty unstable in the comics as well (given that they were both mentally/emotionally damaged people). It only became stable later on.
I'm curious to see what they do with Claire moving forward. I keep hearing some people argue that she's the Coulson of the Netflix stuff, and that she might die after bringing them all together.
The MCU is soso when it comes to romances...relationships which absolutely worked for me were Steve/Peggy, Fitzsimmons, Huntingbird, Jarvis/Anna, Danny/Coleen, Jessica/Luke (though I mostly enjoyed their relationship for how messed up it is) and Trish/Simmons (though I naturally don't want a continuation at this point). Relationships which were okay overall but stumbled a couple of times are Tony/Pepper, Peggy/Sousa, Kingpin/Vanessa and Matt/Elektra. Relationships I absolutely loathed were Matt/Karen, Luke/Claire, Thor/Jane (well, not quite, that one mostly frustrated me, I can see the characters working, I just don't like the way it was written) and Natasha/Bruce.
The others I can take or leave. They don't bother me but I also don't particularly care and a friendship would have usually worked just as well (I am looking at you, Phillinda!!!)
edited 17th Aug '17 12:25:24 PM by Swanpride
Realistic? Sure. A good idea to do it multiple times in quick succession for a tv show in a market where both writers and audiences alike are fixated on consistency? Eh...
It could work, but they'd have to make sure to do it in a way that doesn't devalue the relationships they pinned each of heir respective first seasons on.
edited 17th Aug '17 2:14:30 PM by KnownUnknown
Episode 1: Danny Rand is to the plot of the Defenders what Bran Stark was to the plot of Game of Thrones for five seasons.
Edit: I'm having a lot of fun, but I'm pretty sure some reviews won't be happy about the time required for the story to truly start (ie episode 3).
edited 18th Aug '17 4:53:46 AM by Julep
