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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#126: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:27:08 PM

Hmm, I didn't find it to be that bad. Maybe it's because I read the novel first.

Read ch.6.

Okay. What.

Tatsuya clearly wants to hide his real skill....and yet he one-shots a first class student in a duel, a duel which he could have refused?

Solid writing right there.

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HanabiraKage (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#127: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:28:55 PM

Clarste is right about that Tatsuya and the test.

But there's also something else; as explained by Tatsuya a little later, there's an inherent flaw in the testing system used. Basically, the system only accesses usage of the most common categories of magic or something like that, which he sucks at casting.

[up] Except that that's the simplest and weakest of his abilities. Also, Tatsuya was defending his sister's credibility (she was insisting that he was incredibly powerful and stuff), so he couldn't very well back down since her reputation was at stake.

edited 7th Apr '14 9:34:21 PM by HanabiraKage

joaqs Técnico Electromecánico from Argentina Since: Jul, 2009
Técnico Electromecánico
#128: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:32:41 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]He doesn't need a job and he is hiding something, he is hiding that he is a world known developer of the gun things people use to cast magic who had managed to implement some years prior to the start of the story a type of function (or logic, or something like that) that was theorised but not made aplicable up to that point. He will also make continous flight magic (mentioned to be imposible as of yet) posible and practical in a few arcs.

edited 7th Apr '14 9:33:49 PM by joaqs

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#129: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:36:56 PM

The only thing Tatsuya cares about is his sister, so far as I can tell. Getting upset on her behalf is in character for what little character he seems to have.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#130: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:42:43 PM

there's an inherent flaw in the testing system used

That was the very, and the only point I was making.

Except that that's the simplest and weakest of his abilities.

So? That "simplest and weakest of his abilities" is already treated as the onlookers as a very powerful form and application of magic.

Miyuki even outright revealed that he was trained by a highly competent master, one of the spectators notice how advanced and powerful his CAD is...if there is one thing that he wants to hide, it isn't his power.

Also, just telling Miyuki to calm down would have been a lot easier.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#131: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:43:33 PM

Since apparently I'm so awesome at guessing, I'd like to note that my secret for understanding his character is to think of him as a Parody Sue and imagine that he has the awesomest and most self-glorifying yet simultaneously humble explanation for everything. It doesn't need to make sense, since the only point of the story is to show how awesome he is.

The point of his sister in the story is to extol his virtues to the audience and the other characters because he's too badass and stoic to brag.

edited 7th Apr '14 9:46:19 PM by Clarste

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#132: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:46:32 PM

I don't know...works with Parody Sue usually don't take themselves seriously.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#133: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:48:07 PM

But thinking of it like that makes the whole thing pretty funny. Better than being bored.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#134: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:49:43 PM

True.

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HanabiraKage (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#135: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:53:33 PM

I'm re-reading the chapter with that fight.

Seems that this was his reason for going through with it:

"They were going to work together in the same Student Council from now onwards, so leaving behind any bad blood would only hurt Miyuki."

He probably figured that forcing Miyuki to back down wouldn't have done anything to defuse the situation in the long run, so he decided to crush Hattori's pride instead. I agree it wasn't the soundest decision to make though.

Also, slight correction to my previous post regarding the flaw in the test. It's not about the magic category, but rather three very specific parameters being tested. His specialties are analysis and calculation, which aren't even considered in the test.

edited 7th Apr '14 9:56:41 PM by HanabiraKage

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#136: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:01:24 PM

Read ch.8.

Son of a bitch, not this shit again.

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HanabiraKage (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#137: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:08:33 PM

[up] The stripping?

Technically the measurements can be taken even while fully clothed, but they won't be as accurate. But anyway, as you can tell, Tatsuya doesn't give a damn about a girl stripping in front of him. The biggest reaction she'd get out of him would be Please Put Some Clothes On.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#138: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:10:23 PM

He's acting fine enough, but Miyuki's behaviors and words...and this is all taken seriously.

Ahahaha, ahahaha, ahaha, ah....

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HanabiraKage (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#139: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:27:27 PM

[up] Yes, she's in love with her brother, as you can tell.

Actually, her general behaviour makes this obvious enough, though that particular incident was particularly over-the-top...

Anyway, those three shorts are pretty informative. I really hope they release more of them alongside the main series because God knows the anime-only viewers will NEED the exposition.

HighVelocityPointyThings Since: May, 2012
#140: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:43:26 PM

Again, while the protagonist is ridiculously overpowered by reasonable standards, most of his classmates could be considered to be Gary Stu/Mary Sue(s) in their own right if set in their own series, imho. The impression I get from this series isn't "Magic as an alternative to technology/fighting spirit/martial training", it's "Magic as superpowers and the entire cast gets them."

Miyuki's bro-con feelings seem to start becoming a problem later on in the series. They're not reciprocated: Tatsuya's feelings, such as they are, are strictly platonic.

edited 7th Apr '14 10:48:44 PM by HighVelocityPointyThings

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#141: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:49:12 PM

Ever heard of The Worf Effect? In order to be properly awesome, you need the people you're better than to look competent too. The better they are, the more skilled you look by comparison. This is Gary Stu 101 stuff.

HighVelocityPointyThings Since: May, 2012
#142: Apr 7th 2014 at 11:05:35 PM

[up]

"The Worf Effect" doesn't really apply in this case, in my opinion. I understand fully where the accusations of Gary Stu-ness come from: It's my assessment, however, that the protagonist is frequently out-shined by other members of the primary cast.

allfictions (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#143: Apr 8th 2014 at 3:47:00 AM

Bah, the story is basically about how Shiba Tatsuya with his powers is an Expy of the Hindu God of Destruction and Rejuvenation Shiva, complete with a "Third Eye" and a "Trident", and how his sister Miyuki is Parvati, complete with a Yandere personnality similar to Kali.

...no, really, not even joking, it becomes somewhat obvious if you look at the story with knowledge of your Hindu Mythos. Even more considering that Tatsuya himself is nicknamed Mahesvara by his ennemies, one of Shiva's name.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#144: Apr 8th 2014 at 4:59:17 AM

Can we say....God-Mode Sue?

The author isn't even trying to be subtle, is he?

edited 8th Apr '14 5:26:47 AM by dRoy

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bassgs435 will of the new world Since: Apr, 2013
will of the new world
#145: Apr 8th 2014 at 5:58:43 AM

he's almost even more OP than my headcanon version of Overlord Abel (the MC of Devil Survivor after going through Naoya's route)(and that is a guy whose canon power-level is equal to God and has ALL of Hell's armies under his command)

edited 8th Apr '14 5:59:20 AM by bassgs435

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#146: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:04:48 AM

Read chapter 16.

Okay this is a load of bullshit.

Firstly, can we please go one chapter without having someone tell how awesome Tatsuya is? There was none in ch.15, 16, so that's good...but...

Secondly, what? There really isn't that much actual discrimination going on between 1st and 2nd class students?

Bull. SHIT.

It's a society that is built around magic, 2nd class don't get proper education they need compared to 1st, and have their magical career jeopardized. And there is no discrimination? And what does our hero and class prez say about this? They should stop being such an entitled bastards.

That's right, people. The "good guys" are essentially supporters of discrimination system.

Also, wait, class prez can select new members for the council? Also, as in the early chapters say, only 1st class students can join the council. What about election?! And yet she says there is nothing wrong with the school, but only the system of society?!

You know what. At this point I'm rooting for the terrorists.

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KSPAM PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY from PARTY ROCK Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY
#147: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:10:53 AM

[up]Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#148: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:14:42 AM

This series is really starting to suffer from Strawman Has a Point.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#149: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:37:50 AM

Well of coruse Tatsuya doesen't care about the discrimination. He's already set for life as the gretestest magi engineer ever. What does he care about those other peons?

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#150: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:45:59 AM

Ooh, look at that! Tatsuya dismantled the terrorists (almost) literally in like, ten seconds. Of course he did!

Fuck you Tatsuya, Fuck you Miyuki, Fuck you Mayumi, and Fuck you the hardest, Satou Tsutomu. Argh!!!!

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