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#26: Oct 30th 2013 at 9:36:27 AM

[up][up] I think Horus fell because of a combination of the two, rather than just one.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#27: Oct 30th 2013 at 5:16:32 PM

Do the non-Ciaphas Cain books take themselves far too seriously?

AndrewGPaul Since: Oct, 2009
#28: Nov 4th 2013 at 5:01:35 AM

I think you could say that, yes.

Are you a fan of 40k as a setting, or just of Ciaphas Cain? If your Black Library exposure is limited to just the Cain series, I'd suggest looking at Scourge the Heretic and Innocence Proves Nothing, both by Sandy Mitchell. They were sort of tie-ins to the Dark Heresy RPG, and are quite entertaining in their own right. After that, my suggestions would be the early Gaunt's Ghosts books, Matthew Farrer's Enforcer trilogy and the Eisenhorn trilogy. Not comic, but still excellent at getting into the feel of the setting. Ian Watson's Inquisitor (reprinted as Draco, book 1 of the Inquisition War trilogy) and Space Marine are also fine books. Don't bother with the sequels to Draco; they go off the rails.

I also want to read The Emperor's Gift, for the bits where the Space Wolves make the Grey Knights their bitch. :D

edited 4th Nov '13 5:17:01 AM by AndrewGPaul

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#29: Mar 4th 2014 at 10:26:51 AM

[up] I'd also strongly recommend the Ravenor trilogy, as it is essentially the sequel to Eisenhorn and IMO is a slightly better series.

I love the Cain books; the first omnibus was how I got introduced to 40K proper (Shinji and Warhammer40k being my first ever exposure). Now that The Greater Good is out, I think a new omnibus will be coming out sometime late next year.

edited 4th Mar '14 10:28:26 AM by Willbyr

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#30: Mar 4th 2014 at 4:57:08 PM

[up][up][up] Oh, god, yes. Especially anything about Beekies Space Marines.

I'm an Ork player: I like my Grimdark filtered through a thick lens of manic lunacy, thankyou very much.

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#31: Mar 4th 2014 at 5:09:35 PM

I have a whole bunch of WH 40 K ebooks, I need to start digging through them for stuff I like. Sandy Mitchell needs to write more Ciaphas Cain books though, I love them that much.

AndrewGPaul Since: Oct, 2009
#32: Mar 5th 2014 at 1:01:57 AM

Ravenor was good, I suppose, but not as good as I remember Eisenhorn being.

At the moment, I have Pariah to read. I'm waiting for The Greater Good* to come out in paperback, and am still hoping for an ebook release of the Necromunda novels.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#33: Mar 5th 2014 at 4:37:17 AM

[up]Shut it! tongue Seriously, that Hot Fuzz film, of which we are quoting, is best British buddy cop film.

AndrewGPaul Since: Oct, 2009
#34: Mar 10th 2014 at 2:46:18 AM

So I read Pariah in one night. It was quite good. there's an awful lot of Chaos Space Marines in it - Word Bearers, an Emperor's Child and an Alpha Legionary who appears to be in Eisenhorn's retinue.surprised

The return of an old ... favourite? in the last page, too. Makes me want to play =][=nquisitor again. Or perhaps even buy that 28mm Eisenhorn mini off Ebay for a hundred quid. :)

edited 10th Mar '14 2:46:55 AM by AndrewGPaul

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#35: Mar 11th 2014 at 11:44:34 AM

I think Horus fell because of a combination of the two, rather than just one.

Doesn't Kor Phaeron try to use the daemonsword to corrupt Guilliman and get a No-Sell?

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#36: Mar 20th 2014 at 2:25:03 PM

I am going to have to read at least the Horus Heresy books at some point. They seem as interesting as Ciaphas' adventures but I am not so sure I will enjoy them as much.

And I am beyond peeved there seems to be no new Ciaphas books on the horizon.

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#37: Mar 21st 2014 at 7:45:14 AM

The Horus Heresy novels are an interesting lot, since they're written by different people. The first book of the series is wonderful. The second book...not so much. I don't know about the third, because I couldn't finish the second.

And Ciaphas also exists in an interesting lot; we want more, but at a certain point things can only go downhill, so I for one am glad that things appear to be stopping before the series jumps the shark.

If you meet me have some courtesy, have some sympathy, have some taste. Use all your well-learned politesse or I'll lay your soul to waste.
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#38: Mar 21st 2014 at 1:28:06 PM

I kind of tailed off from the HH books somewhere in the early 20s. Space marines aren't interesting enough as characters to support such a lengthy series.

Maybe if they'd been Imperial Armour books or something like an Osprey book...

edited 21st Mar '14 1:30:25 PM by InverurieJones

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AndrewGPaul Since: Oct, 2009
#39: Mar 26th 2014 at 2:43:41 AM

It's not so much a new Cain novel I want - there's nine novels and a dozen shorts, after all - but a continuation of the Dark Heresy books.

And an "Eisenhorn vs the Angelae" crossover. :)

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