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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#226: Jun 6th 2021 at 11:25:57 AM

I see a second Star Wars Sequel-trilogy debacle coming tongue

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#227: Jun 6th 2021 at 11:38:49 AM

[up]Personally I see it more akin to Highlander.

“There should have been only one.”

Edited by Beatman1 on Jun 6th 2021 at 2:39:00 PM

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#229: Sep 7th 2021 at 11:40:59 AM

If you go the official 'WhatIsTheMatrix?' website, and choose either the red or blue pills you get different trailers with footage.

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#230: Sep 7th 2021 at 11:55:36 AM
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#232: Sep 9th 2021 at 6:15:05 AM

And here's our first trailer.

Edited by XanderCrews on Sep 9th 2021 at 8:15:25 AM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#233: Sep 9th 2021 at 6:38:50 AM

Looks good visually, but I feel like it's just gonna be a complete rehash story-wise.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#234: Sep 9th 2021 at 7:45:51 AM

I admit, I'm also worried that it's just gonna be the original with a new coat of paint.

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#235: Sep 9th 2021 at 7:52:51 AM

…Now that I think of it, didn’t Neo die in the real world at the end of Revolutions?

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#236: Sep 9th 2021 at 8:01:18 AM

Kinda bummed that Laurence Fishburne and Hugo Weaving aren't returning. But the cast look slick, the blue pill imagery looks tantalising and it's got (one of the) original creators directing. I have faith.

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#237: Sep 9th 2021 at 8:10:50 AM

I get the sense, from what the trailer shows, that the premise seems to be moderately metafictional involving this guy thinking that he's Neo, as in the fictional character, and possibly being right. The trailer and teaser both mention this difficulty of discerning fiction and reality. I imagine that's what the ""After all these years... to be going back to where it all started... back to the Matrix!" line at the end of the trailer refers not to the in-universe concept but to the Matrix film which we've all watched and this film will thus play with The Truman Show Delusion by way of the Matrix variant of it.

If that assumption is correct, it's a pretty interesting pitch.

The plot and the premise intrigues me. The absence of the green filter, Laurence Fishburne and most importantly Yuen Woo-Ping (the living legend fight choreographer who made the matrix trilogy revolutionize western cinema) is what concerns me most.

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#238: Sep 9th 2021 at 8:21:10 AM

Not gonna lie I out didn't register that this was Keanu returning to his role as Neo until Trinity showed up. Like, he just looks so different now that my brain just genuinely disconnected that he was ever Neo to begin with.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but only one of the Wachowski's is involved in this, right?

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#239: Sep 9th 2021 at 8:23:21 AM

Just Lana. Lilly was working on Showtime's Work In Progress.

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#240: Sep 9th 2021 at 8:54:12 AM

My gut says this is a sequel disguised to look like a reboot. Either Neo survived the end of Revolutions or his persona is, like, embedded in the Matrix now. Like, either his body's alive and is in one of the pods or his body died but SOMETHING SOMETHING he lives on in the Matrix somehow.

In a straight-up reversal of the ambiguously happy ending, the Machines are trying to keep Neo pacified with blue pills. They're drugging him into normalcy.

The clincher for me was that blink-and-you'll-miss-it trailer shot of Trinity dissolving into Matrix code. Like she's just straight up a program now, not the actual physical person. That suggested to me that we're supposed to think Trinity has come to rescue Neo from his mediocre life as she would in a reboot, but we're going to find out that actually, Trinity has been dead all along. She died in Revolutions.

But who really knows. This trailer provided very little in the way of actual plot details, which is probably for the best.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 9th 2021 at 8:54:54 AM

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#241: Sep 9th 2021 at 8:57:08 AM

[up]Well in addition to that when you look at her 'splitting' two the split clones' have Jessica Henwicks face.

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#242: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:54:52 AM

Seeing theories that Priyanka Jones’s character is Sati, the child exile program from Revolutions, now grown up.

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#243: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:26:57 AM

Intrigued by the sun-drenched trailer. The visuals seem almost determined to use as little black-and-green turn of the millennium cyberpunk as possible. The Production Posse involved (cinematographer John Toll, composer Tom Tykwer, Literature.Cloud Atlas author David Mitchell on the screenplay, Sense8 cast members in thus far undisclosed roles) makes me think that this will probably look and sound a lot like the more divisive 2010s Wachowski oeuvre.

(I largely liked them, so I'm chilling.)

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 9th 2021 at 12:41:18 PM

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#244: Sep 9th 2021 at 11:51:59 AM

There are a couple shots of machines that appear to be analyzing Neo's body while it's wired up to the ground (with all the other plugs that were removed in the first movie). Could be that they kept his body (apparently a plot point in Matrix Online) and are experimenting with it, possibly in a separate simulation.

One thing I found interesting was the shot showing they had updated phones from the iconic flip phones to modern day smart phones.

As for Hugo Weaving and Lawrence Fishburne, they apparently wanted Weaving but his schedule didn't work out while in Matrix Online Morpheus was actually murdered suggesting Fishburne was intentional for story reasons.

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#245: Sep 9th 2021 at 12:00:01 PM

FWIW, Abdul-Mateen II captioned a picture of him on instagram with "MORPHEUS" two hours ago, which outlets are taking as confirmation that he's playing the (or a version of the) character.

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#246: Sep 9th 2021 at 12:52:05 PM

So they’re going for the Oracle route for him then, cool.

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#247: Sep 9th 2021 at 1:56:51 PM

When Trinity splits, I don't see the copies looking like Henwick at all. They all look like Moss to me.

But maybe I have stupid eyes.

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#248: Sep 9th 2021 at 2:12:32 PM

The ones right beside the middle one.

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#249: Sep 9th 2021 at 2:26:17 PM

I am so torn about this.

I am among those who enjoyed the sequels. I consider them grossly under-appreciated and overdue for a re-appraisal. I also do not think that the series needed to continue past those films, and it concerns me that this is happening given that Lilly Wachowski outright called the idea of further Matrix films "repellent" just six years ago. It states that there is no creative reason to make this corpse dance again outside of cashing in on generational nostalgia.

But seeing some of the implications in the trailer of a Meta Fiction narrative is really interesting to me. The idea of a Matrix film looking at itself in terms of its real-world impact, the modern age of social media and digital cults blurring the lines between fiction and reality, possibly even being a satire of itself and Hollywood's ceaseless drive to turn every film into a franchise, is exactly the kind of angle that could justify its existence beyond filling WB's coffers. More than anything, seeing how it will handle this narrative is why I have any interest in the film at all.

My biggest concern is all the signs Resurrections displays of being a nostalgia trip and franchise Soft Reboot as The Force Awakens was. Is this meant to be a cap-off for the series or the launching pad for a new trilogy? I want this to be the former, but would WB give the green light without the promise of more to come? Doubt it. The idea of a new Matrix trilogy is not one that appeals to me, to put it mildly.

Edited by BaronVonFistcrunch on Sep 9th 2021 at 3:07:34 AM

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#250: Sep 9th 2021 at 3:11:03 PM

Given that the trailer and advertising prominently highlights the pills (which only briefly mattered in the first film), and that the Wachowskis have confirmed that The Matrix is a trans metaphor (estradiol even used to be in red pills at the time) I wonder if this film will be more open about the allegory.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 9th 2021 at 3:11:42 AM


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