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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#82851: Jul 30th 2014 at 11:59:22 PM

You do realize that a big brother reveal is not nearly on the same scale as a giant blue cat attempting to wreck shit up on a major scale reveal?

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
bRaHiAn1 Maid of Time from Where Nothing Gathers Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Maid of Time
#82852: Jul 31st 2014 at 12:03:10 AM

I thought Ahuizotl was more doglike.

i think i mostly want to see what happens when this whole place breaks apart
storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#82853: Jul 31st 2014 at 12:03:16 AM

Plus, if you can accept Twilight having a big brother out of nowhere, then DD shouldn't be a problem.

The problem with the Daring Do thing is that it's not internally consistent either.

For one thing, how did she get to be such a good writer if she devoted her life to adventuring? How does she have time to write so many books at all? Why does Ahuizotl provide adventures on demand to convienetly fit her writing schedule? I mean, what's she going to do if the next book comes due and Ahuiztol didn't pull anything yet?

But even if you ignore that, the big issue is why noone noticed all this stuff going on. Why has noone else involved in the stories ever had any contact with civilization? It's simply not plausible that the truth wouldn't get out.

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#82854: Jul 31st 2014 at 12:06:45 AM

I remember that the episode felt inconsistent with itself, but I don't remember the exact thing that made me think that.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#82855: Jul 31st 2014 at 12:15:55 AM

Well, there's a lot of cases of books getting popular without the writer having much experience, or without the books even being all that good. And it's possible(I like this idea myself) that she is a writer by trade, and happens to occasionally just get caught up in shit. We don't know how long she had that ring, either, so it's possible the adventures don't happen often, and some of the books are genuinely fabricated(Write what you know, and all that).

I mean yeah, the episode did imply that the books are based on actual adventures, but it's still only pulling from a single source so it's not exactly hard evidence for it.

Overall I don't think I'm a huge fan of the episode; the bait-and-switch plot that lead to it all left me with a bit of a sore neck and the overall change in tone from the rest of the series felt starker than normal, but I don't personally have an issue with it's existence or canonicity.

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#82856: Jul 31st 2014 at 12:23:14 AM

and some of the books are genuinely fabricated

This would make a lot more sense, but unfortunately, the fact that RD and TS were able to deduce important information based on their knowledge of the books indicates that we're supposed to beleive the books are all reasonably accurate recountings of real events.

Well, there's a lot of cases of books getting popular without the writer having much experience, or without the books even being all that good.

True

Also one other issue I just thought of: Is Rainbow Dash really the first fan to try to track down the author? Seriously?

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kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#82857: Jul 31st 2014 at 12:35:17 AM

Well she needed Twilight's help to do it. You know, the one with access to national files.

But yeah, that's a good point about the book data. Had forgotten about that.

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Crowfall Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#82858: Jul 31st 2014 at 1:59:17 AM

We don't know exactly what her publishing schedule is like. It's possible its loose enough that she can wait until another adventure happens before writing a new book. Or, given how consistently Equestria is in danger, she can reliably expect to have enough material for a new book every year or so and this year was unusually slow, hence the delay. She could also have had a huge backlog of adventures before deciding to document them, and only recently caught up.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#82859: Jul 31st 2014 at 2:26:24 AM

1. She's been a writer longer than she's been an adventurer. This was heavily implied in the episode.

2. Writing is really flexible. She can easily adapt.

3. She has absolute control over what she censors.

4. Ahuizotl publishing his plans is likely to bite him in the ass and also requires him admitting that he regularly gets beaten by an author. I don't see his ego taking that.

5. People are well aware that Nazi Germany was real while still believing that Indiana Jones wasn't. There's no difference.

6. Celestia is aware of Daring according to Word of God. Celestia has successfully covered up bigger stuff.

Crowfall Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#82860: Jul 31st 2014 at 2:58:34 AM

[up]1. I don't remember this being implied, but it's been awhile since I've seen the episode, so I'll take your word for it.

5. Nazi Germany wasn't being constantly thwarted by a specific very recognizable person who proceeded to write books about their adventures that anyone even tangentially involved would recognize as matching the actual events.

6. I'm not sure why Celestia would bother covering up Daring's exploits when Daring apparently doesn't care that much. Yes, she prefers a bit of privacy, but if she was seriously concerned about being found out she wouldn't publish all her adventures. Unless I'm remembering wrong, she didn't seem upset that RD and the rest found out her secret identity, she was just annoyed that they kept following her. Daring Do remaining unknown is probably a result of taking place in remote areas, not because of any cover up.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#82861: Jul 31st 2014 at 4:37:58 AM

Who says that Daring is the only one defying Ahuizotl?

09MurphyM Since: Jan, 2001
#82862: Jul 31st 2014 at 7:40:34 AM

Maybe she is the only one capable of actually standing up to him.

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#82863: Jul 31st 2014 at 7:55:59 AM

Post of the Day #819

Cronus ate them not for the flavour (he didn't even notice that one had been replaced with a rock) but because he was told that one of his children would overthrow him, just as he overthrew his father. This was somehing of a pattern in the family.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#82864: Jul 31st 2014 at 7:56:36 AM

Heck, the episode itself went out of its way to leave open the possibility.

I...!

...

I've done this before, and have nothing new to say about it that would change anyone's mind who wasn't convinced last time.

...carry on.

I have a message from another time...
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#82865: Jul 31st 2014 at 8:04:36 AM

People are well aware that Nazi Germany was real while still believing that Indiana Jones wasn't. There's no difference

There's a very huge difference actually. Starting with the fact that Indiana Jones obviously isn't real.

Can you name even a single example of book that was widely published as fiction before later being revealed to be an accurate retelling of true events?

I don't think you can, because it just doesn't happen.

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IrishZombie Since: Dec, 2009
#82866: Jul 31st 2014 at 8:09:08 AM

Starting with the fact that Indiana Jones obviously isn't real.

You mean... he's not? sad

Can you name even a single example of book that was widely published as fiction before later being revealed to be an accurate retelling of true events?

Of course not. Publishers are really good at hiding the fact that their stories are true. Supposedly, it helps sales.

edited 31st Jul '14 8:09:26 AM by IrishZombie

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#82867: Jul 31st 2014 at 8:14:44 AM

I think it was implied she was running out of material to make a book at that time. Rainbow said the book was being pushed back a few months, which is why they want to track her down.

And after the adventure and some unspecified time later, new book with a Rainbow-colored sidekick.

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#82868: Jul 31st 2014 at 8:22:42 AM

I'm imagining Ahuizotl pulling of his plan and preparing to usher in years of merciless solar heat... Only for the sun to move right out of alignment and continue on as normal.

Later that day, he receives a letter which reads:

Nope.

-Celestia

I have a message from another time...
AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#82869: Jul 31st 2014 at 8:33:41 AM

Or maybe Luna schedules an unexpected eclipse just for that.

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#82870: Jul 31st 2014 at 9:20:27 AM

Or Nightmare Moon makes her comeback.

"Tough luck, Ahuizizzle.

Love, NMM."

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#82871: Jul 31st 2014 at 9:21:53 AM

NMM's secret persona is NVM. She tends to let things slide.

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Crowfall Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#82872: Jul 31st 2014 at 9:52:46 AM

I still wonder what Daring Do's readers thought about Rainbow Dash's appearance. Assuming she didn't alter events too much, Rainbow just shows up without any buildup midway through the story and sort of forces her way into the plot (fu fu fu) with her friends.

Do we know that Ahuizotl's plan involved the sun in any way? All I remember him saying was that the area would experience 1000 years of sweltering heat, not that the sun was the source of that heat. Maybe they live right next to a previously unknown volcano or something.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#82873: Jul 31st 2014 at 9:54:45 AM

A volcano housing another villain from 1000 years ago. Sure are a lot of 'em.

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Fleetfoot ...of the Wonderbolts from wherever my job takes me Since: Sep, 2013
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#82874: Jul 31st 2014 at 10:12:03 AM

"Wood Sheep"? Celestia damn it.

You needed brick, didn't you.

I don't get it.

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#82875: Jul 31st 2014 at 10:14:32 AM

I'm guessing it's for the board game called Settlers of Catan.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...

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