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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#80951: Jul 17th 2014 at 12:29:06 PM

I'm a bit torn on Princess Shipping. I think there's potential for it to work, but the age difference would definitely raise some issues. Right now the only real valid option that doesn't run into that problem is Celestia/Discord, which runs into all sorts of other issues.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#80952: Jul 17th 2014 at 12:33:35 PM

I think the sisters could be shipped with mortal ponies. It would be hard to relate on some things, but with effort it could more or less work out. Though lifespan is stil going to leave the relationship in tears, but they'd no that from the get go.

Then again, I don't see them as goddesses. More powerful than unicorns, sure. And long lived, but I don't think their minds are so different from ponies that it's not so hard to connect with them. In fact I imagine Celestia specifically tries to be so affable so that she doesn't holy forget what it's like. Could see her taking lovers and friends throughout the years enduring it's sadness, but recognizing it's part of the experience and equally remembers the good times; regretting little.

crowfall Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#80953: Jul 17th 2014 at 12:50:06 PM

I'm fine with princess shipping. I do sort of like Twiluna even though it isn't my preferred Twi ship. I don't support Twilestia for the given reasons, but it is good for one thing, and that's being hilariously awkward.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#80954: Jul 17th 2014 at 12:52:13 PM

And then they find Spike's Rarity pillow. Also, I should note that I find the idea of Twilight having a crush on Celestia a lot less creepy than if Celestia reciprocates.

edited 17th Jul '14 12:52:57 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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PrincessGwenevere Ooh, sparkly! from Coat Mountain Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#80955: Jul 17th 2014 at 12:57:40 PM

I've always thought of Celestia and Luna being the sort of Married to the Job types, and put their subjects before their emotions. (Comics notwithstanding.) Plus, they wouldn't feel comfortable dating a "mortal", since so many of their subjects see the princesses as above them, rather than as an equal. So they're just like: "Ah, screw it. It's easier being single."

Or at least that's how I see it in regards to cannon. tongue

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marston Since: Sep, 2011
#80956: Jul 17th 2014 at 1:20:21 PM

I happen to like Twilestia even though it's not one of my favorite pairings. Though I'll admit that it's very hard to do without it coming off as creepy.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#80957: Jul 17th 2014 at 1:25:36 PM

The power dynamic difference, rather than the mayfly-December romance aspect, is what creeps me out about it. I think if Celly didn't hold a supreme office like she does, I could possibly accept Twilestia. Possibly.

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marston Since: Sep, 2011
#80958: Jul 17th 2014 at 1:27:56 PM

[up]What exactly is creepy about that Power Dynamic difference? I don't get it.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#80959: Jul 17th 2014 at 1:33:10 PM

Because it can result in uneven leverage for the teacher that can make for an unhealthy relationship. It's why college professors and their students aren't supposed to date.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#80960: Jul 17th 2014 at 1:33:19 PM

Me neither. Like, you could theoretically say the same about Cadence and Shiny.

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#80961: Jul 17th 2014 at 1:36:43 PM

Celestia was in a position of authority over Twilight, both direct and general, for most of Twilight's life. She also has a position of emotional authority over Twilight, having been her personal teacher throughout her childhood meaning that Twilight inevitably views her very highly.

It's important to respect your partner in a relationship, but to respect them as an equal. Twilight's history with Celestia means that most of the emotional power in the relationship is in her hooves, rather than evenly spread-out as is ideal. Basically, if Celestia wants something Twilight is a lot more likely to ow to her wishes than the other way around, and that's not a recipe for a healthy relationship.

Note that Celestia's wishes on this front are irrelevant; I doubt she would try and use her authority in any way at all. The trouble here is Twilight's perception of Celestia. It's the sort of thing that could be worn down, but it would take years of Twilight acclimating to her new position, and I don't think she could ever really move past Celestia's importance in her developmental years.

[up]Not really. Cadence's title as princess is, in any effective way, very recent. About as recent as Shining's title as prince. In a lot of ways Shining Armour had more effective authority than Cadence to begin with, albeit in different enough areas that they don't really overlap and affect each other. And most importantly, Shining and Cadence knew each other as equals while they were growing up.

edited 17th Jul '14 1:38:44 PM by kegisak

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marston Since: Sep, 2011
#80962: Jul 17th 2014 at 1:54:13 PM

[up][up][up]Okay, that makes sense. For a minute I thought you meant the literal power difference between the two {And going by that logic would mean that Goku shouldn't have married Chi Chi either}.tongue

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#80963: Jul 17th 2014 at 2:07:40 PM

Marston: Hehe, ah, that explains a lot. Nah, I wouldn't object to that unless I thought the gap was so large that their... private activities might end in one of them snapping in half. >.> tongue

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Crowfall Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#80964: Jul 17th 2014 at 2:10:35 PM

Yeah, it isn't so much the difference in magical power or political power, but the way Celestia was so involved in Twilight's developing years. It's like hooking up with your favorite teacher from elementary or middle school. Even if the relationship doesn't start until after you're of legal age, it's still pretty squicky. That isn't to say a Twilestia relationship couldn't work, but it would take a bit more growth on Twi's part first.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#80965: Jul 17th 2014 at 2:17:14 PM

[up]This, basically. Celestia had so much influence on Twilight's formative years that her relationship is almost parental in nature at this point. If Celestia has a thing for Twilight, it brings up some creepish Wife Husbandry vibes.

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IrishZombie Since: Dec, 2009
#80966: Jul 17th 2014 at 2:28:29 PM

I just finished a game of Monopoly with two of my cousins. I insisted that we used the official rules, because I knew that most of the popular House Rules for the game were half the reason games take so long.

The game still took forever. Admittedly, the auction rules actually resulted in some fun moments, and helped everyone get property quicker, but it took most of the day to finish. I'll admit, we had fun towards the beginning of the game, but as the game went on it became a bit less so. I won, but I didn't really enjoy it, since it's hard not to feel like a jerk as you slowly whittle away at your opponents, and they have no real hope of coming back.

marston Since: Sep, 2011
#80967: Jul 17th 2014 at 2:30:48 PM

I'll admit that I do like the idea of a comedically and creepy one-sided version of Twilestia. Like Twilight having a really obsessive crush on Celestia to the point of stalking her.tongue

Crowfall Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#80968: Jul 17th 2014 at 2:36:32 PM

Reciprocal Twilestia is a bit creepy. One sided obsessive Twilestia is delightfully amusing.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#80969: Jul 17th 2014 at 3:09:49 PM

Twilight having a Celestia obsession is always good for a laugh.

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Starscream759 Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: In denial
#80970: Jul 17th 2014 at 3:19:32 PM

But it has so many unfortunate implications right there. So many levels of wrong. Just what would that pairing achieve anyway? Yeah Celestia pretty much has been the bulk of Twilight's childhood but really?

edited 17th Jul '14 3:20:50 PM by Starscream759

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IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#80971: Jul 17th 2014 at 3:20:02 PM

I'm the sort of person who can and will do anything for the person I'm in a relationship with. That may explain why I don't see the uneven power balance thing as an issue. I can see that logically, but not emotionally.

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marston Since: Sep, 2011
#80973: Jul 17th 2014 at 3:37:08 PM

[up][up][up]Says the guy who is dating a flying horse.tongue

Starscream759 Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: In denial
#80974: Jul 17th 2014 at 3:45:01 PM

@Marston Thank you, Marston.

edited 17th Jul '14 3:45:24 PM by Starscream759

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#80975: Jul 17th 2014 at 3:51:10 PM

One. I could see the Princesses having mortal lovers at times. Enjoying being with them while they can. Not often, and don't know if they really did. But I could see it happening.

Twilestia. I see no problems with that. Yes, the whole student teacher relationship upgrading, all those issue are possible, but that is in general. It would all come down to the specific details about who feels how. If they both were okay with it. All the details rather then just he general way it looks.


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