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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

Sydxelia Are you into... Vinyl? from Cranberry World Since: Nov, 2010
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#78576: Jun 30th 2014 at 10:35:37 AM

Picked up a new Steam game, Magicite. Wow, it's actually challenging. Picked up a new Steam game, Magicite. Wow, it's actually challenging.

Twilight's Big Castle Thingy is made of Magicite.

I put my friend in a coconut! He lives in my hat! Hey, come hang out!
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#78577: Jun 30th 2014 at 10:36:20 AM

Yeah that's kind of stupid for the article to say oh the Hub is acclaimed and won many awards, but it could fail because a package-exclusive network isn't competing with CN, Nick, Or DC.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#78578: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:01:30 AM

I didn't see anything in the article about the Hub failing. I saw a part about how Hasbro WAS losing $6-7 million annual before this shit happened, and I didn't see anything about competing with the other networks.

What you're all doing right now? Spreading paranoia.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#78579: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:01:56 AM

Magicite?

I have a message from another time...
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#78580: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:03:00 AM

[up] I think the issue is that it's relying on the Nostalgia Filter and exactly one show (MLP), Nick has Korra and Spongebob, CN has Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Ben 10 Onmiverse and Teen Titans Go and Disney has...a firm grip on Justin Beiber's fans.

I just hope the resulting succession doesn't cause MLP to get Screwed by the Network.

edited 30th Jun '14 11:03:38 AM by MorningStar1337

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#78581: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:05:23 AM

No. I'm reporting relevant topics.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#78582: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:06:02 AM

It's harsh and I don't quite agree to the level of what the author suggests, but t this is the closest to best I've found so far on the Brony Doc's flaws.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#78583: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:14:58 AM

[up][up]Tell me that the way you posted wasn't intended to spread paranoia about the Hub when the article doesn't give any sort of impression.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#78584: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:16:11 AM

[up][up][up]Except you posted the article with a declaration of how the Hub is doing so poorly, while the article itself doesn't say that all. All it says is that the Hub is doing as well as some other channels... other channels which no one really expects the Hub to be able to match in views. There are only one or two lines about the Hub's performance in that article, and other than that it seems to indicate that the channel is doing just fine. Your post made it sound like the channel was on the verge of collapse or something.

edited 30th Jun '14 11:16:56 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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#78585: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:22:35 AM

And even then, I bet THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS of fans will riot and make petitions to save the Hub network. After one damn month, poof!, it's back.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#78586: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:29:01 AM

He uses the words "has struggled", "despite these claims, hardly anyone is looking at the Hub", and "has sparked speculation about what will happen to the Hub". So, those all mean that the network's upward rise in success has stopped, which is means "doing poorly" than how it had been, as small a difference as it may seem.

edited 30th Jun '14 11:29:57 AM by kyun

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#78587: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:29:42 AM

It's still not the focus of the article like you made it out to be.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#78588: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:30:51 AM

@Brony Doc article. I don't really care for documentaries anyway. But now it has me wondering how much of the fandom is hypocritical on the "love and tolerance" front.

marston Since: Sep, 2011
#78589: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:39:21 AM

[up]Dude, ever since the S3 Finale controversy, the "Love and Tolerance" motto practically doesn't even exist anymore. I don't think anyone pretends to follow it anymore since they all realized how hypocritical that would be.

@Ike: Honestly, I've never gotten the appeal of giving your main character a Thou Shalt Not Kill rule. Especially since it just means that the really dangerous villains get to keep escaping their prisons and kill innocent people over and over again because the hero can't be bothered to take even just one life even if said life completely deserves it. At least Superman knows that there are times where you have to break that rule {Doomsday was pretty much a really powerful mindless monster who was going to wipe out the entire planet if Superman hadn't straight up killed him, and when Superman killed Darkseid, the latter's very existence was dragging all of reality to it's doom, so he had to be dealt with lethally or everything would have been destroyed}.

edited 30th Jun '14 11:41:12 AM by marston

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#78590: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:43:07 AM

Dark: Eh, she speaks a lot in pretty broad strokes that make assumptions about how I should feel about it and that turns me off of really listening to her very closely. I can understand where her opinions come from, but she's presenting them in the same total lack of objectivity that she accuses documentaries of having.

The documentary was made to show that there are good, decent people amongst a fandom that's generally considered an easy target for ridicule. It focused on the positive because everyone already knows that humanity in general is full of shit-heads, which means, yes, there will be some of those kinds of people in the fandom, but no one needs to be reminded of that.

Morning: Of course there's going to be hypocrisy going on. Adopting a broad saying like that for an entire group always runs the risk of coming across contradiction. This fandom is not the first, nor will it be the last, group to have this problem.

EDIT: [up] To be fair, the guards are often made grossly incompetent because the plot demands that the villain escape. Chances are, without some diabolus ex machina, many of said villains would remain locked up for the entirety of their sentence.

edited 30th Jun '14 11:46:53 AM by KuroiTsubasaTenshi

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#78591: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:47:18 AM

"Love and Tolerance" started out as a motto to deal with trolls. Also, it was nabbed from the Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha fandom, so it wasn't even a concept started by bronies to begin with.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#78592: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:59:20 AM

@Morning: The main problem is that people attempt to treat "bronies" as a group united by some sort of underlying philosophy, when in reality the sole common ground for everyone is "they watch the show". Other than that specific point, there's zero reason to believe that members of the fandom are going to agree on anything any more than any other randomly selected group of people. And it's a mistake made by people on both sides of the argument. You have your "All bronies are horrible" people, and your "all bronies are awesome" people. Neither group is right, because being a member of the fandom has jack all to do with any other aspects of one's life. The vast majority of people aren't into the show because they wanted to make some sort of philosophical or social statement; they're into the show because they enjoy watching it.

edited 30th Jun '14 12:00:51 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#78593: Jun 30th 2014 at 12:03:57 PM

Simply put: There are extremists in our fandom that have no reason to be extremists.

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#78594: Jun 30th 2014 at 12:08:25 PM

Honestly, Kyun, I can't remember the last time you posted in this thread to do anything besides ask if it was okay to panic.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#78595: Jun 30th 2014 at 12:11:45 PM

[up][up]That's true of any fandom. Heck, it's true of any group of people consisting of more than a dozen.

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#78596: Jun 30th 2014 at 12:12:04 PM

At this point, I'm wondering if we should just rename kyun to one of the Flower Trio.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#78598: Jun 30th 2014 at 12:13:06 PM

But now it has me wondering how much of the fandom is hypocritical on the "love and tolerance" front.

Thing is, it can't be hypocrisy if the people who are pushing the "love and tolerate" motto aren't the same ones who are actually acting like douchebags.

[up][up]

edited 30th Jun '14 12:14:34 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#78599: Jun 30th 2014 at 12:22:22 PM

And "love and tolerance" has never been a good description of the show's message anyway. As early as "Griffon the Brush-off" the show has made it clear that some behavior should not be tolerated, and that you may need to cut ties with someone who refuses to change.

IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#78600: Jun 30th 2014 at 12:25:46 PM

Personally I prefer love, tolerance and peaceful solutions. I'm a pacifist and a people-pleaser by nature. However, I doubt that's true of even 20 percent of the fandom. All we can do is keep promoting love and tolerance and hope to change their minds.

Marston- okay, I admit that in desperate circumstances (like entire worlds or universes or threatened) then superman can kill the bad guy. It still feels wrong for him to do it though, you know? He's The Cape and the Big Good of the DCU. He's not supposed to kill. I guess I'm just being biased and simplistic.

Edit: [up] point taken.

edited 30th Jun '14 12:27:12 PM by IkeAndMike

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