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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#78201: Jun 27th 2014 at 2:19:06 PM

Excuse me one second...

-runs into manner closet-

Ahem. Now, where were we?

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#78203: Jun 27th 2014 at 2:44:21 PM

There's a stage show version?

Eeyup. Premiered in Germany in like 1999. They're finally bringing it to the States.

Also, updated my liveblog, but with something different - I'm reviewing Atlas Shrugged: Part I!

RadiantMoonlight from From England Since: Oct, 2013
#78204: Jun 27th 2014 at 3:12:26 PM

@ Kegisak one of my favourites from season 2 was the Daring do episode, So a continuation from that was just brilliant. It had good action, Daring do is a great character and I like Alizohtol as the villain, also I probably misspelled his name apologies about that.

" inset something funny here "
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#78205: Jun 27th 2014 at 3:21:27 PM

Hey hey-hey, what's the haps?

[up] The DD episodes are quite fun. grin

IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Exists for some reason
#78206: Jun 27th 2014 at 3:22:59 PM

Okay, so. Mom and dad will be back home this afternoon. And want me to help move all the stuff they bought. That's expected.

But mom just texted me saying she bought a piece of a bowling alley floor.

Okay. Fine, you guys were right. Fuck what I said about mom being the responsible one.

http://h0useb0und.tumblr.com/
Starscream759 Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: In denial
#78207: Jun 27th 2014 at 3:48:12 PM

I think and I don't know why but I think I've developed a bit of respect for Big Mac there.

edited 27th Jun '14 3:51:41 PM by Starscream759

"Transform and Roll out!" Optimus Prime
Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#78208: Jun 27th 2014 at 4:04:52 PM

So I've been hearing this "Cultural Appropriation" term. I kinda don't get it. I looked it up and urban dictionary gave me this.

when white people thinks it's okay to steal all the ~~~pretty~~~ or appealing things from cultures and use them for attention (i.e basically every white female celebrity with a bindi or miley cyrus and 'twerking') . It's pretty annoying and i ask you to please stop

Strikes me as pretty asinine, given what I know about things like music and art history. Also, the dipshit can't capitalize.

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#78209: Jun 27th 2014 at 4:23:48 PM

I think the "real" issue with it is that it's taking things without considering their original context or meaning.

But then, the first post I saw on it was from an Indian girl pointing out that she didn't know what a Bindi was for either. And being offended by it all kind of runs under the assumption that the person appropriating it doesn't understand it's meaning, which they may well do... myeh.

Is today politics day or something? I just got out of a conversation with a co-worker where I had to find a way to get it through to him that just because he doesn't have a problem with the lack of women in and around video games doesn't mean that it isn't a problem. Including his belief that there's no reason for women to be intimidated about getting into the video game industry despite, you know... the way video games treat women...

Still, to his credit, he was at least willing to listen and give consideration to the importance of representation. Puts him leagues ahead of some other people I've talked to. yeah, I'm basically just venting because he started the conversation with a 4Chan(great source of political rhetoric, there) post that can basically be surmised as: "Hah hah, some other country has issues with the treatment of women in real life so complaining about good representation of women in video games is stupid". Goddamit, I wish I could make more progress about turning this kind of opinion around, but it feels like I'm theo nly one around me who cares, and it's a helluvan uphill battle here...

Birthright: an original web novel about Dragons, the Burdens of Leadership, and Mangoes.
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#78210: Jun 27th 2014 at 4:53:46 PM

^^ I think the idea is that the white person is wearing the clothes as a sort of costume or doing the activity as a novelty, rather than adopting it as an actual part of their life, and by doing so, they're treating the culture those things come from to a novelty rather than a real culture the equal of their own.

Like, think of a music video where some wildly popular Hollywood-beautiful singer is cast as a nerdy loser getting picked on in high school. The singer is appropriating the nerd image as a costume for the video. They aren't actually a lonely nerd, they don't actually care about the lifestyle they're portraying, it's just a costume they're putting on to be cute, or fetishistic, or for some other cheap visual effect, and doing so reduces being a nerd to a cute or fetishy or novel look rather than an actual identity.

The other kind of appropriation that I don't think that definition was touch on as much is when white artists take an art form or style that grew from a specific ethnic group and take it over, stripping it of its cultural roots and turning it into part of the white artist's culture, which is especially upsetting when those cultural roots were themselves rooted in cultural oppression, such as white musicians taking over the faces of rock, jazz, and hip hop from the black artists those art forms originated from, and which often had white oppression of blacks as a major cornerstone of the movement.

And that's the other big part of it: it's pretty specifically when white people do this, because white people have a long history of conquering and exploiting other ethnicities and their cultures. It's just that now we're doing it by stealing and cheapening their cultures under the guise of appreciating them now that colonialism has gone out of style.

That is of course not to say that white people can't genuinely appreciate other cultures, or that we can't use those artforms or elements of their cultures respectfully and without cheapening them; it's just that a lot of the time, it is just being done as a costume.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#78211: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:11:49 PM

While a lot of that is true, it's also a bit overreaching to say that people aren't allowed to utilize aspects of other cultures in any context outside of adapting the culture itself. I mean, I can see where some ways of doing so are blatantly offensive and inappropriate (i.e. dressing up like a stereotypical "gangsta" for halloween), but on the flipside, some people go so far as to say that, for example, a white guy shouldn't use hip hop elements in his music because he didn't actually grow up in that environment. On one hand, I can kinda see where it comes from, but on the other, I think that someone can appreciate the artistic output of a culture without being part of it.

I think the best way of doing it would be to go for a middle ground; people can borrow elements from other cultures, but in a way that respects and pays tribute to the original culture rather than simply grabbing it without bothering to understand how it developed. To do the research on the culture you're borrowing from, basically. A good example of it would be the aesthetics of Avatar The Last Airbender; it's obviously very heavily based on various types of Asian cultures, but it's clear that the writers took the time to understand what the different aspects of culture represent rather than just going "Hey, that symbol looks cool; let's throw that on there".

TL;DR Borrowing from other cultures is fine as long as you do it in a way that respects the culture you're borrowing from.

@Pannic: The part of that post I find most incongruous is that anybody would complain about Twerking being stolen. If Twerking was part of my culture I'd be begging for some other group to take it.

edited 27th Jun '14 5:13:19 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#78212: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:27:47 PM

Hey guys, what's up?

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#78213: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:35:46 PM

^^ Right, which is why I said, "That is of course not to say that white people can't genuinely appreciate other cultures, or that we can't use those artforms or elements of their cultures respectfully and without cheapening them; it's just that a lot of the time, it is just being done as a costume."

:P

Also, fully agree on the twerking thing. I mean, I like big butts and I cannot lie as much as the next guy, but I just don't get the appeal of rapid-fire jiggling.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#78214: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:37:03 PM

Keg: Apathy is humanity's nature when it comes to stuff that doesn't benefit #1. I wish you luck all the same, though.

FE: New Mystery Only Feet 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Umamusume Haru Arima 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshi
KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#78215: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:40:18 PM

[up][up][up] Is that Fluttershy in the Panty & Stocking style?

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
KingKix Typing the internet since '90 from Dante City Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Typing the internet since '90
#78216: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:47:18 PM

Yep. I let her use it, since I made it and such.

So, who watched Korra tonight!?grin

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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#78217: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:50:15 PM

Like, think of a music video where some wildly popular Hollywood-beautiful singer is cast as a nerdy loser getting picked on in high school. The singer is appropriating the nerd image as a costume for the video. They aren't actually a lonely nerd, they don't actually care about the lifestyle they're portraying, it's just a costume they're putting on to be cute, or fetishistic, or for some other cheap visual effect, and doing so reduces being a nerd to a cute or fetishy or novel look rather than an actual identity.
I'm thinking about it and I'm feeling exactly zero outrage.

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#78218: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:56:05 PM

It might be a bad comparison, since, well, high school is kinda shit all around. I mean, some people get outraged by nerd appropriation(See: "Fake" nerd girls), but those people are dumb.

It's another thing entirely, I should think, when people are copying something from a culture that was actually oppressed in some way.

Birthright: an original web novel about Dragons, the Burdens of Leadership, and Mangoes.
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#78219: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:02:22 PM

^^^ Wait, Korra? Did a new season start without me noticing?

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#78220: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:04:14 PM

It's why I tend to give impromptu little lectures on bits of cultural history if there's some really bad ignorance in a conversation.

I try to be nice about it. I just like learning for it's own sake and hate stereotypes.

IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Exists for some reason
#78221: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:04:56 PM

The last two hours here have been major Mood Whiplash. It's gone from "we have to go move furniture" to "holy shit we got a puppy!" To "dammit, everyone is fighting, again." Sigh.

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KingKix Typing the internet since '90 from Dante City Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Typing the internet since '90
#78222: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:07:13 PM

That's sad to hear. Wait, A puppy? Dude, you should be happy.

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#78223: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:08:36 PM

I don't know much about guitars, but I do know that the Stratocaster is legendary. I'd go for it.

I don't know much about guitars, but I do konw that you want a guitar that can shoot lightning or be used as an axe. Ideally both.

So, who watched Korra tonight!?

Wait is it starting again? I hope I get internet soon

The worst part about this crap wifi is that I can't watch videos.

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Starscream759 Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: In denial
#78224: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:08:45 PM

@Ike A puppy? When did ya get a puppy?

"Transform and Roll out!" Optimus Prime
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#78225: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:11:01 PM

^^ And that lightning better be able to explode dragons, or you've been totally ripped off.


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