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Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM
I think it's implied that Alicorn magic is on a higher level than the other three combined.
In the Hearthswarming Eve episode, the unicorns in the play were able to raise the sun and moon as a group effort. Meanwhile, Celestia can do so alone. We've yet to see a mere unicorn do that, and until we do there is no evidence that it's possible. An Alicorn can do it, Alicorn magic is presumably stronger.
http://h0useb0und.tumblr.com/Power levels discussion G... actually let's not.
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectBetter than most, but she's not nearly to where Yugo is.
Reaction Image RepositoryYou could headcanon that instead of directly rising the sun and the moon they were instead controlling the rotation of the planet, but even that was a stretch and made impossible now that Twilight's raising the sun is impossible by any real world physics. I'm still baffled by the realistic description of comets in Owl's Well that Ends Well though.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.Maybe the sun and moon used to work like earth's, but excessive use of magic permanently disrupted anything resembling an orbit, but comets behave as normal because ponies haven't spent thousands of years screwing around with them via magic?
FE: New Mystery Only Feet 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Umamusume Haru Arima 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshiSee I can buy that excessive Earth Pony and Pegasus magic degraded the planets natural growth and weather patterns, but the same thing happening to the sun and moon doesn't make sense. While it's easy to see the benefits to pony kind of making the land more fertile, and the weather more regular, the day and night cycle are naturally regular. Unlike the earth and weather, there's no ideal way to use the sun's light, because any decision you could make would benefit one side of the planet, but would screw over the the other side. I prefer the idea that in the past there was some big disaster that threw all of the planet's natural cycles out of whack, and the ponies used their magic to put everything back on track.
edited 11th May '14 9:28:57 AM by RhymeBeat
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.Well, do remember that before the tribes united, the unicorns used to hold the sunlight hostage in order to coerce food from the earth ponies, so it's possible that making good on those threats had serious repercussions.
FE: New Mystery Only Feet 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Umamusume Haru Arima 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshiHonestly I don't like one of the races being outright evil in that scenario, and I remind you that the Pegasi also held the weather "hostage" in that scenario.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.Adblock Plus is your friend.
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Which means Adblock wins too. "We'll block all the ads, unless the timing is really hilarious."
edited 11th May '14 9:40:38 AM by Pykrete
Regarding the comet thing from Owls Well That Ends well, Twilight's complete description is this:
None of that is inherently contradictory to a geocentric model of Equestrian astronomy; all it requires is that a sun exists to heat the comet. The geocentric model would be like this:
The comet orbits the earth (or Equestrian equivalent) instead of the sun. However, because said orbit still brings the comet closer to the sun, it has the same effect. It works even if the Equestrian sun is much smaller and less hot than our sun, because it would also be a lot closer.
Reaction Image RepositoryRhyme: I never said the unicorns were evil, just what they did. It's possible to be greedy and irrational without being evil. This is readily apparent in the tribes initially trying to strongarm each other for stuff they want, but then reconciling in Equestria proper.
FE: New Mystery Only Feet 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Umamusume Haru Arima 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshiYour idea means that the unicorns were being objectively worse than the other two. The land doesn't get farmed without the EP's labor, the weather is unpredictable without pegasus magic, but in your idea the unicorns are deliberately sabotaging the natural order to get what they want.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.Also, I want to point out that holding the sun hostage would be a really stupid move because everyone would suffer for it. It's not like the unicorns can keep the sun to themselves; either everyone gets it, or nobody does.
Reaction Image RepositoryHey guys! Shift got cancelled. Watched the episode this morning. Did anybody else here say epic?
https://youtu.be/_1F5HhUvFbM?si=csgwerqELcG6615qBut non-optimal weather would likely mean non-optimal food growth, which means not everyone could be fed. Who wants to gamble on being one of those ones not fed? Or not being able to make stuff grow under cloudy weather?
And yeah, holding the sun hostage might not be the best solution, but keep in mind that if the unicorns don't have something, then the other two tribes would hold a huge amount of political power over them. It'd be a kind of "Well, either we all get food or no one gets food." ultimatum. They were probably just desperate to find some way to keep themselves in the arena, even if a victory from making good on it would likely be Pyrrhic at best.
FE: New Mystery Only Feet 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Umamusume Haru Arima 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshi@Star Agreed. I mean...damn!
I didn't trust Discord that much but when he got close to the Big Bad, I was like, "Huh, he DID reform. It's just an odd way to show it."
https://youtu.be/_1F5HhUvFbM?si=csgwerqELcG6615qI've seen people complaining about Twilight suddenly being able to go hoof-to-hoof with Tirek even though she was having trouble just moments before their encounter. Some have attributed it to Twilight no longer holding back, but I don't think that's entirely it. Prior to the fight, she was actively trying to control the power she was wielding. Once the fight went into full swing though, she could easily have been fighting on instinct. In other words, it's a revisit of what happened with the Crusaders in Twilight Time.
Rainbow...... What exactly did you do to get yourself in this situation?
http://derpibooru.org/623152?scope=scpef86ef7bdbc65548e3a9b710f037f3d0ef3f3128e

But Luna and Celestia did lose their flowy manes. And Twilight gained one. I love whenever that's used like that.
Question: why did he want/need alicorn magic? He already had all the various components of such.
edited 11th May '14 8:56:38 AM by Enlong
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