A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM
Where is that quote from, Meta?
edited 1st May '14 2:39:32 PM by IkeAndMike
http://h0useb0und.tumblr.com/Magic in MLP ostensibly has rules, we just don't... know them.
Birthright: an original web novel about Dragons, the Burdens of Leadership, and Mangoes.Some of those problems you mentioned are more applicable to the HP movies than the books. Ron has a lot of his character stripped away in the movies, for example.
I actually found Ron had more character in the movies, at least Deathly Hallows (it's been longer since I watched any of the others). They actually gave him stuff to do in the DH movie; in the book he was just there to make Harry look better by comparison.
Same.
Anyway, DH is my least favorite of the books, and the only one I never read more than once, so I don't remember it as well.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayThe books I found fairly bland. Harry's a very boring protagonist, magic only does what it does when the plot says so, Voldimort's a hilariously one-dimensional villain with Genre Blindness, and the last book I found a let down.
On the other hand, Harry Potter has its share of humor, mythology references, etc.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's Play@Wryte: ... Er, Ron rescued Harry, guided Hermione to the Chamber of Secrets, informed Harry and Hermione of what was going on, had the arc with the putouter, introduced the concept of wizard fairy tales and that's just off the top of my head. The movies tended to remove all his cool attributes or give them too Hermione, which was insulting to her too, because she was already cool.
I liked Harry Potter and couldn't stand Lord of the Rings. I barely got through the hobbit.
http://h0useb0und.tumblr.com/My main gripe with HP is the fact that it's constantly introducing new rules about how things work. As well as the fact that it'll introduce spells or magical items that have enormous amounts of potential to upend the plot only for them to never really get delved into. Like they'll bring up a cool spell or something, but it'll only get used a handful of times and never show up again.
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Yeah, but even so, there were some points where I was like "Seriously? This has never even been mentioned before now?" I.e. some of the stuff in the later books (like the Horcruxes) would've been better off being introduced earlier in the narrative, given how important they are.
But why would they when they are such incredibly dark, buried magic that there is no reason for any wizard to really know about let alone a kid. Plus Dumbledore wasn't even completely certain that's what they were dealing with till the latter books. There's no rel logical reason he should have found out sooner.
That's another thing. Using Harry's lack of knowledge as a way to introduce new magic spells or items for the plot, and this is still going on in the seventh book.
And he never really has to do much, his friends or later adult allies do a lot of the plot-important stuff for him, and the last book's climax was a letdown.
Also having Hermione and him going on random camp trips and wandering about for 2 3rds of the book while the interesting stuff at Hogwarts like a new repressive dictatorship, a resistance group of students from the DA meetings, and the last battle were only skimmed over. Not to mention the sudden body count came off as needlessly edgy.
It's a lot like MLP in that respect. I think both series put more emphasis on rule of funny than consistency in world building.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's Play@Story: Thing is, when new stuff is introduced in MLP it's generally stuff that's rare enough that it makes sense we wouldn't have heard about it before now. In HP a lot of stuff that comes up in later books are things one would've assumed would've been mentioned earlier.
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@Wryte: Some of those problems you mentioned are more applicable to the HP movies than the books. Ron has a lot of his character stripped away in the movies, for example. I also prefer the Lot R movies to the books though.