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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#60201: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:32:33 AM

Alright. After missing THREE OF MY CALLS and driving all the way PAST our city to the rental house, which is in the next town over, mom is finally coming to pick me up and take me to work. So I won't be very late at all. Yay.

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crimsonstorm15 shine on from A parallel universe Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#60203: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:35:07 AM

Oh? Any examples?

Well, for starters, there's the whole "rolling constitution and dexterity in one stat." I mean, seriously, while I'm perfectly okay with simplifying (or at least properly clarifying so we can finally stop having disputes whether someone is supposed to roll wisdom or intelligence), combining two of the most important stat for any character is just crazy. One Stat to Rule Them All is not a good thing.

Most powers (D&D 4e, remember?) seem to be mostly based either on singular character moments in the show or fandom memes, and leave very little room to play a character that isn't a direct expy of an already existing character, stiffling creativity. For example, basically every power on the list for Spirit of Generosity is connected to fashion in some way.

Even though it's currently v 1.16, it's far from finished, with advanced classes only available to the Spirit of Magic and Spirit of Adventure. Now, I could be mistaken, but I always assumed that 1.x sort of implied that, apart from ironing out unforeseen issues, it's basically ready for proper play.

They occasionally use the 1d3. While not completely unworkable, i's annoying.

Etc., etc., etc. It's basically a long string of poorly thought-out design decisions that is unsuited for any real roleplaying.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#60204: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:44:11 AM

\*has no idea what's going on*

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SunsetShimmer Superior Princess from Canterlot High Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Superior Princess
#60205: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:46:00 AM

Am I a character in any of those tabletop games?

The sparkle is gone, see me shimmer on~
NESgamer190 Since: Sep, 2012
#60206: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:46:49 AM

@Teeth: Dungeons and Dragons talk and Pony... that's all that's going on.

Given how little I interacted with the tabletop gaming, I'm unable to really brew up a comment at all.

Also, hello Ninja Shimmer!

edited 23rd Mar '14 11:47:11 AM by NESgamer190

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#60207: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:47:34 AM

Most powers (D&D 4e, remember?) seem to be mostly based either on singular character moments in the show or fandom memes, and leave very little room to play a character that isn't a direct expy of an already existing character, stiffling creativity. For example, basically every power on the list for Spirit of Generosity is connected to fashion in some way.

That seems to be a common problem in pony rpgs.

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#60208: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:49:29 AM

Well, for starters, there's the whole "rolling constitution and dexterity in one stat." I mean, seriously, while I'm perfectly okay with simplifying (or at least properly clarifying so we can finally stop having disputes whether someone is supposed to roll wisdom or intelligence), combining two of the most important stat for any character is just crazy. One Stat to Rule Them All is not a good thing. Most powers (D&D 4e, remember?) seem to be mostly based either on singular character moments in the show or fandom memes, and leave very little room to play a character that isn't a direct expy of an already existing character, stiffling creativity. For example, basically every power on the list for Spirit of Generosity is connected to fashion in some way. Even though it's currently v 1.16, it's far from finished, with advanced classes only available to the Spirit of Magic and Spirit of Adventure. Now, I could be mistaken, but I always assumed that 1.x sort of implied that, apart from ironing out unforeseen issues, it's basically ready for proper play. They occasionally use the 1d3. While not completely unworkable, i's annoying. Etc., etc., etc. It's basically a long string of poorly thought-out design decisions that is unsuited for any real roleplaying.

Wow. Yeah. That is bad.

EDIT:

Am I a character in any of those tabletop games?

I was thinking of eventually showing stats for some characters in the show, bith as examples and for use as important NP Cs. You would certainly work for that.

edited 23rd Mar '14 11:52:06 AM by Sereg

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#60209: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:54:38 AM

Would SS get a bonus feat for being human?

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Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#60210: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:55:08 AM

Why is foal a seperate race in that system? They didn't think they could map getting cutie marks and other shenanigans with the base races? Weird.

I also see the problems with being forced to essentially play an expy of the mane six. It also has my biggest 4e pet peeve. Requiring a grid map.

edited 23rd Mar '14 11:57:19 AM by Mio

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#60211: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:56:48 AM

Let's go back to the Star Wars example.

What's the difference between buying points in Blaster and more specialized points in Rifle?

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#60212: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:00:17 PM

Would SS get a bonus feat for being human?

In Dn D? I guess. Though one might argue that as she only turned into a human, she never learnt that extra skill.

My system doesn't have feats though. And would suck at statting something as wimpy as an Earth human. They'd almost all have ones in every physical stat except dexterity. Eh ... Then again, that's fine for NP Cs. She'd be there in her unicorn form. Though, I guess I could give alternate forms as well. I was thinking of doing the same for the Mane Six.

EDIT:

I also see the problems with being forced to essentially play an expy of the mane six.

Which is really bad in an RPG.

It also has my biggest 4e pet peeve. Requiring a grid map

Ugh! I hated that too. One of the biggest reasons I didn't make the switch as well. The biggest being the increased sameyness of everything. I liked diverse mechanics, huge numbers of options and a complete lack of limits!

edited 23rd Mar '14 12:04:24 PM by Sereg

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#60213: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:07:07 PM

How does Luna know what really happened at Sweetie Belle's fifth birthday party? How does she know what will happen in the future? How did she know the exact room and exact time to be in/at when Sweetie Belle grabbed the headdress? Is she omnipresent now?

This one wasn't very good.

edited 23rd Mar '14 12:07:21 PM by PurpleDalek

SunsetShimmer Superior Princess from Canterlot High Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Superior Princess
#60214: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:08:40 PM

@Sereg

My stats better be good, or else...

My awesomeness aside, the "expy" thing really is a problem in an RPG. Nobody wants to be a random pathetic stormtrooper, they want to be someone worthy.

The sparkle is gone, see me shimmer on~
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#60215: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:09:23 PM

How does Luna know what really happened at Sweetie Belle's fifth birthday party?

Rarity's asleep too, right?

I have a message from another time...
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#60216: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:10:57 PM

Wow. Yeah. That is bad.

I'm particularly fond of the Spirit of Loyalty class, one of the parts where the author decided to be creative (apart from the fact that there are apparently no Earth Ponies with the Spirit of Loyalty). Not only is it's primary stat Integrity (dexterity and constitution), meaning that it uses Integrity for attacks, Armour Class, initiative and hitpoints, but every single time your character attacks or is attacked, regardless of whether the attack hits, you gain a momentum point. Momentum points gives you a +1 to AC, can be traded in for other bonuses like additional damage, and you can stack up 10+your level.

Since AC is apparently the only defence in the game, after a few rounds of combat, you are basically an invincible god at level 1.

edited 23rd Mar '14 12:16:44 PM by Kayeka

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#60217: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:12:42 PM

The Ghost of Christmas Past segment was Luna drawing from Rarity's memory of the event to provide more context. The Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come segment was Luna extrapolating from current events, with Sweetie Belle's subconscious filling in a lot of details.

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#60218: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:14:47 PM

Has anyone had any experience with tri-stat systems and whether or not that would work for ponies?

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#60219: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:15:45 PM

Do they actually state that Luna is drawing from Rarity's dream too? I may have missed that.

Still, knowing the exact room and the exact time when even Sweetie Belle didn't know where she was going and was just running about randomly. Damn Luna.

NESgamer190 Since: Sep, 2012
#60220: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:17:25 PM

@Mio: I don't think I've ever did a 3-stat system at all. -shrug-

Afraid I got nothing else to input for now...

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#60221: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:20:17 PM

And would suck at statting something as wimpy as an Earth human. They'd almost all have ones in every physical stat except dexterity

RD seemed pretty good at kicking that soccer ball.

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#60222: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:22:02 PM

[up]That's not exactly an Earth Human.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#60223: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:22:31 PM

She can visit pony's dreams, I doubt it takes much mental manipulation and memory reading to get to where you think you need to be.

How did she read the past and future?

Magic. She's a centuries old alicorn princess, she's going to know how to do stuff. Did you have these problems when she was coming up to help Scootaloo? Maybe she just likes flying around through the night and helping ponies with their nightmares and Sweetie was on her route that week.

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#60224: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:22:59 PM

Since AC is apparently the only defence in the game, after a few rounds of combat, you are basically an invincible god at level 1.

What? They don't even have NA Ds?

Still, knowing the exact room and the exact time when even Sweetie Belle didn't know where she was going and was just running about randomly. Damn Luna.

I figure Luna came to watch Saphire Shores to see how it would go and noticed the chase and decided to follow SB. Keep in mind that she can teleport.

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#60225: Mar 23rd 2014 at 12:23:16 PM

Do they actually state that Luna is drawing from Rarity's dream too? I may have missed that.
I don't recall it being explicitly stated, but it's a reasonable inference.


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