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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#39826: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:42:29 PM

Pickle Inspector literally makes up the entire universe.

Makes up as in comprises or immagines?

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#39827: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:43:22 PM

I think Twilight was just talking about the underlying situation: Rainbow Dash's dilemma was essentially whether she prioritizes her friends over being on the best team, or vice versa. Choosing neither group ultimately leaves that unresolved. It was technically a choice, but not the choice that was causing her problem.

To use your college example, not choosing any college is a choice: no college. But choosing "I'll figure out whether to go to college A, college B, or not go to college at all later" isn't a choice; it's procrastination.

I.e. Yes RD can choose "Wonderbolts, Ponyville, or not flying", but the real issue is "do I care more about my friends or about being on the winning team?" Rainbow Dash was basically trying to avoid addressing the issue and Twilight was pointing that out. I seriously doubt she was saying that RD literally hadn't decided anything, just that RD was leaving the issue unresolved.

@Story: Both, kinda.

edited 18th Jan '14 4:44:04 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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Starscream759 Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: In denial
#39828: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:43:58 PM

@Crimson That would....make...sense I guess?

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MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
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#39829: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:45:30 PM

G1, eh? that would make her the oldest pony to show up, right?
Surprise used to post on here. She was from G1, as well.

edited 18th Jan '14 4:46:58 PM by MetaFour

IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#39830: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:45:40 PM

Well I guess that makes sense. Still, she could've phrased it better.

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IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#39831: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:46:47 PM

Also- did this actually happen? https://derpibooru.org/527851 I know about Neon Lights but not about Lemon Hearts. Is it legit?

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Starscream759 Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: In denial
#39832: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:46:54 PM

@Meta Huh, that's something.

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MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
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#39833: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:47:12 PM

I think Twilight was just talking about the underlying situation: Rainbow Dash's dilemma was essentially whether she prioritizes her friends over being on the best team, or vice versa. Choosing neither group ultimately leaves that unresolved. It was technically a choice, but not the choice that was causing her problem.
It's an interesting inversion of "The Ticket Master", where choosing that none of them would go to the Gala was presented as a valid solution.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#39834: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:47:18 PM

G1, eh? that would make her the oldest pony to show up, right?

We used to have Surprise.

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IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#39835: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:48:58 PM

Meta makes a very good point.

... so does that make Twilight a hypocrite?

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CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#39836: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:51:02 PM

Is it just me, or do the Wonderbolts come off as more and more morally bankrupt and incompetent as we learn more about them?

It was one thing when it happened the first time, but having the Wonderbolts fill the role of "insensitive jerks that set up an aesop" twice in a row strikes me with some unfortunate implications.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#39837: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:51:52 PM

No because they are competently different situations.

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#39838: Jan 18th 2014 at 4:52:48 PM

Spitfire didn't really notice what LSD was doing until Rainbow Dash confronted her about it. When she did, Spitfire took action.

I wouldn't call that morally bankrupt.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#39840: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:00:17 PM

Except Spitfire and Fleetfoot were both clearly in on the lie together (if their non-plussed reaction to Rainbow confronting them means anything). Neither Spitfire nor Fleetfoot sees anything wrong with their behavior until Rainbow points it out.

Just left a bad taste in my mouth. Especially since Spitfire allegedly learns something similar in Wonderbolt Academy.

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#39841: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:00:45 PM

Also, she's apparently way nicer than a real drill sergant.

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spyro4 from verbal locations. Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#39842: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:01:00 PM

Ike,yes,that did happen.,I already posted that picture here,but nobody cared.

edited 18th Jan '14 5:05:18 PM by spyro4

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#39843: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:01:18 PM

They're technically not acting as Wonderbolts. Their participation in the games is technically off-duty.

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#39844: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:05:34 PM

Admittedly, they did wear their Wonderbolts uniforms at one point.

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#39845: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:08:26 PM

Yeah, at the start.

Afterwards, it was tracksuits that were stylized like Wonderbolt uniforms.

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#39846: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:10:01 PM

Is it just me, or do the Wonderbolts come off as more and more morally bankrupt and incompetent as we learn more about them?

It was one thing when it happened the first time, but having the Wonderbolts fill the role of "insensitive jerks that set up an aesop" twice in a row strikes me with some unfortunate implications.

I wouldn't go that far. But perhaps there's a subtle, long-running lesson here about recognizing that one's idols are just as fallible and human as you are. So, at first the Wonderbolts seemed perfect because we just had Rainbow Dash's fangirlish descriptions of them. Then we start seeing their flaws: in "Sonic Rainboom" and "The Secret of My Excess", we see them reduced to Redshirt Army. In "Wonderbolts Academy", we see their Drill Sergeant ignorant enough of the cadets' goings-on that a near-fatal accident happens on her watch. And in this episode, we see Soarin injure himself through carelessness, and the others resort to underhoofed means so they can field a winning team.

Obviously they're not irredeemable, as the Wonderbolts have responded receptively to Rainbow Dash's criticism. It just seems like, once Dash is officially a Wonderbolt, they'll be learning as much from Dash as she learns from them.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#39847: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:11:48 PM

@Clever: I think "morally bankrupt" is overstating it. The only morally questionable thing they did was lie to Soarin about how bad his injury was, and even then it may have just been an exaggeration of the truth. It might have been true that Soarin wasn't 100% recovered. Might have been far enough along to fly, but they decided they'd rather have 100% healthy RD on their team than 80% healthy Soarin'.

Also, let's face it, a lot of cast members have done things that are similarly selfish, and nobody calls them morally bankrupt. The only difference is that this time we saw it from the other perspective.

[up]Also this. We should remember that the point of the Wonderbolts is that they're really good at flying. Being amazing athletes doesn't mean that they're going to be good at other stuff. I actually kinda like the fact that the show is splitting the difference. The Wonderbolts aren't paragons of awesome like Dash makes them out to be, but the show didn't make it a full Broken Pedestal situation either. They're very good at what they do, but they aren't infallible either.

edited 18th Jan '14 5:15:44 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#39848: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:22:49 PM

Actually, they didn't even lie to Soarin - he was fully aware that they reasoned he might not be at 100% for the competition. They did, however, lie to Dash about his Injury. It was Sorain who actually revealed the lie to her in the first place, you'll recall.

So, I mean, yeah, they did lie... just, details.

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IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#39849: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:23:13 PM

I still find it weird that they'd lie about it.

edited 18th Jan '14 5:23:30 PM by IkeAndMike

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#39850: Jan 18th 2014 at 5:24:33 PM

Okay I think that the box plot will end at the Equestria Games.


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