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My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (Live Reactions & Discussion)

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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

     Original OP text 
I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#34826: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:29:51 PM

when everypony said get rid of the bats, how come Twilight jumped on the bandwagon a bit quickly?

Twilight is afraid of bats. We know this from Winter Wrap Up.

edited 3rd Jan '14 2:30:14 PM by Sereg

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#34827: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:32:54 PM

Its not a hard and fast rule. It's simply a mater of their nature. A ponies' cutie mark does NOT define them, nor does their special talent. Both are simply based on who they are. Parts of the whole, not defining traits. A cutie mark does not define who they are, who they are defines their cutie mark.

Same with magic for unicorns. Magic related to their special talent, related to who they are, is easy to the point of being almsot instinctive for them. They simply understand that stuff so easily. but it is not the be all and end all of what they could learn. Simply what is easiest for them to learn. With enough work, it's possible to learn more, but there might be some magic they simply will not be able ti understand well enough, or be powerful enough to use.

Lauren described it as like art, which is a good comparison. Some people are skilled at oil painting, some and sculpting with clay, others carving from stone, etc... but just because you have a natural skill at one type of art, does not mean that and oil painted couldn't learn some sculpting, or a musician how to draw. They simply won't be as good at it as someone for whom that is their main form or art. Likewise, it doesn't mean that they actually would be able to get the hang of another art form. It all depends on each individual person. Same for unicorns and magic. Each one has something they are innately gifted at doing, and how far they branch out from there, all depends on each one and what they want and can do.

[up]Not really, that wasn't a "NOOO BATS!" reaction, it wasn't that they were bats specificly, more a "NOOO Something is coming at me" surprise. Less about what was coming at her, more simply a reaction to having anything flying right at her.

as to why in Bats. Because AJ simply had the better argument, while Fluttershy had nothing.

edited 3rd Jan '14 2:34:19 PM by Seraphem

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#34828: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:33:36 PM

Twilight is afraid of bats. We know this from Winter Wrap Up

Come to think of it, Pinkie is too (Ticket Master)

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#34829: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:34:42 PM

@Danny: LBYS is one of my favorite episodes because of how much it focuses on character interaction.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#34830: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:36:04 PM

Secondly, Twilight DID come up with a compromise, how are so many people missing this? The entire plan WAS her coming up with a middle ground. A way to let the bats stay on the farm like Fluttershy wanted, without causing AJ's entire family to lose their livelihood, lose their home and go bankrupt and cause a food shortage in Ponyville like just leaving them alone like Fluttershy wanted would have caused.

BigDannyC Since: Dec, 2013
#34831: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:41:20 PM

I'll try to watch this asap.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#34832: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:45:56 PM

... So you completely ignored how Fluttershy came up with the non-magic plan that satisfied everyone in the end?

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#34833: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:48:57 PM

a quick warning to Big Danny C: i have a feeling the next few posts are gonna get quite spoiler-tastic, so you might wanna take a break from the thread for a bit.

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#34834: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:49:24 PM

Which made no sense, had no explanation for how it suddenly worked despite, again making no sense, and with no explanation on why everypony suddenly liked the idea, given nothing changed to make it better.

How are they keeping the bats in just that area? Preventing them from eating everything they want? Why is it suddenly worth it for AJ to lose a good portion of her farm, for no proven reward? Yeah that suddenly being he 'right' solution with no explanation is the one thing I don't like about the episode.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#34835: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:53:59 PM

It isn't suddenly the right solution. She laid out the plan during the initial minutes of the episode, if you bothered to pay attention (which you obviously didn't): section off a good section of the orchard for the bats only, allowing them to feed without endangering the farm and thus providing long-term benefit via their seed-spitting.

And you must've missed how they put up big honkin' signs with bat pictures on them for that section. Clearly your rage at the ending must've gotten the better of your attention span.

edited 3rd Jan '14 2:55:10 PM by nomuru2d

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#34837: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:58:44 PM

Oh right. Sory. I did watch the episode but I blacked out afterwards. Somethings have been completely wiped out. For instance, I forgot how I got my Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy plushies...by the way, I have a Pinkie Pie and a Fluttershy plushie.

https://youtu.be/_1F5HhUvFbM?si=csgwerqELcG6615q
God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#34838: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:58:53 PM

I EXCEPTED EVERYTHING AT FACE VALUE

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#34839: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:07:49 PM

And the other ponies dismissed it because it was a poor idea, and nothing happened to explain why they changed their minds, then suddenly, no it was the right one all along despite nothing being done to address the issues with it. And, so what do the signs do to keep the bats from leaving that area and devouring the entire orchard?

Next, yes direct insults great way to talk to someone. Cause clearly I missed something, not saw it and also saw the flaws in it from the start. and no this isn't rage.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#34840: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:09:23 PM

It wasn't a poor idea. It was quite sensible. They were just caught up in Applejack's short-term thinking thanks to that song.

And the signs designate what area belongs to the bats. They're not blind, after all.

edited 3rd Jan '14 3:09:58 PM by nomuru2d

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#34841: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:13:14 PM

Ug, are we having to go through this again? It's one thing to have a debate, but when you just say the same thing over and over in a ranty tone, there's no point.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#34842: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:17:50 PM

And they convinced the bats of this how? Fluttershy tried talking to them, it didn't work. What is stopping the bats from leaving that one little orchard area? And given that they eat enough to cause that much damage to the farm in a day, how long until they run out of food in just that one little space? How was, Get the bats away from the farm a short term solution? It solved the problem completely.

The bats were locusts. They ere ruining the farm, threatening AJ's entire family's livelihood, and Ponyville's primary food supply. That's why they support AJ, she was in the right to want those vermin gone. Fluttershy had a solution, that was impossible to enforce, or even enact, due to there being no way of keeping the bats in just one area. And would still result in AJ losing a portion of her orchard forever. For no solid gain that was ever explained.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#34843: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:19:36 PM

Clearly you have been thinking too hard about this episode.

And you also need a break. Lately you've been getting set off badly whenever certain topics come up here.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#34844: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:20:18 PM

This isn't me getting 'set off' just pointing out logical problems with the solution the episode gave.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#34845: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:21:33 PM

For no solid gain that was ever explained.

It was explained.

edited 3rd Jan '14 3:22:05 PM by God_of_Awesome

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#34846: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:25:31 PM

Not really. All we got was a vague "They make the tree grow stronger." With no explanation to how. If ti was through simply spreading more seeds, that would do the exact opposite effect, as the orchard already has enough trees, and anymore would simply cause the resources to become strained, cause the trees to crowd each other out. And make all the trees weaker for it.

While their roll in nature makes sense, this isn't nature, it's a farm, where things need to be more controlled.

If it's something they do to the trees that makes them stronger, it was never explained, nor how they'd be doing this, while, somehow, living ONLY in there one little area, that AJ no longer gets any product out of. So all they'd be doing is making the trees they are eating from better, with AJ seeing none of the gain.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#34847: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:25:36 PM

This isn't me getting 'set off' just pointing out logical problems with the solution the episode gave.

Problems which exist only in your personal conception of the episode.

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#34848: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:26:37 PM

It's not the existing trees that are made stronger. It's the seeds they spit out after feeding. Those grow into stronger trees that can produce better-quality apples.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#34849: Jan 3rd 2014 at 3:30:46 PM

In an orchard that is already planted and growing. There's no room to plant the new seeds, without getting rid of some of the older trees to make room. Which would further reduce the farm's output till those trees grow enough to take the place. And how!? How could they make the tree stronger, just from the seed? They would have to be altering the genetic code of the seed to do something like that. No chemical would have a reaction like that, that would last that long and have the profound an effect just from being applied once.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea

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