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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#31251: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:40:45 PM

[up][up]... I interpreted that part as Shining was getting weaker from spending DAYS casting the spell continuously. Including overnight, which may or may not have required him to go without sleep. She didn't disable it, she just waited for him to run out of power.

edited 21st Dec '13 6:40:55 PM by IkeAndMike

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#31252: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:44:17 PM

[up] No. The entire point of the wedding switcheroo was to get close to Shining Armor to drain the love used to fuel that spell personally. She knows extensively how it works. It just took days because there was just too much love and she had to spend a lot of time draining it.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#31253: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:45:15 PM

What Clever said is the point I'm trying to make. She thought that the way she and her kind used love was the ONLY way that it could give you power. That it wasn't able to be used like in the normal Power of Love way. Also as Enlong said. She's a thief, she doesn't truly understand what she is stealing beyond how it effects her, she doesn't care enough about others to even consider they might have another use for it.

[up]Also, no she didn't do crap to "disable" the shield spell or touch it in anyway. All she did was mentally dominate Shiny to the point he simply stopped reinforcing it, then let her minions bash it till it's power gave out and it failed. Her issue had nothing to do with the shield spell either. But not realizing Cadnace and his love for each other could repower him, and super charge his spell, since neither of them were changelings, so to her, weren't able to use love as a power source like she could. his 'love' was never fueling the shield, it was just his normal magic. the love draining was separate and just something she did to give her more power, while taking over his mind to the point he stopped using the spell and her minions could overpower it.

edited 21st Dec '13 6:46:34 PM by Seraphem

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#31254: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:46:09 PM

Yeah, Chrysalis didn't really disable the spell, she just brainwashed him so that he wouldn't be able to maintain it effectively, so that when the attack rolled around, it collapsed.

Alternately, here's my theory: Chrysalis got caught off guard specifically because she was already feeding off of the love. She probably figured that they wouldn't be able to attack her using that power because she was already absorbing it. She probably let Cadance and Shining get together because "they can't do crap now, I'm eating their love; if they try to summon more I'll just eat that too" and didn't realize that they would be able to harness it themselves without her being able to absorb the energy.

To use the weapons analogy, she doesn't think the wave motion gun will work because she's been sapping the power source and gets caught off guard when they manage to generate enough energy to fire it anyway.

As for this:

The entire point of the wedding switcheroo was to get close to Shining Armor to drain the love used to fuel that spell personally.

I'm not quite sure that's the case. Her primary objective was to break the shield, but as Seraphem pointed out, she doesn't have to know how the spell works to do that. She just has to be able to brainwash SA into not maintaining the spell properly. It's like rendering a tank inoperable by preventing a mechanic from maintaining it; you don't have to know how it works. The other thing is that it's never clear that she's draining Shining's love. If anything she's draining the love from Cadance; why else would she imprison her near Canterlot rather than killing her or taking her somewhere else?

edited 21st Dec '13 6:49:29 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#31255: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:47:13 PM

Man, I'd like to see Changelings seen in a non-antagonist form. The ones loyal to Chrysalis can't be the only faction out there, and it'd be interesting to see one who doesn't want to go the predatory route.

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crimsonstorm15 shine on from A parallel universe Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#31257: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:51:01 PM

Read Thrown Abroad, and it's sequel My Little Changeling: Friendship is Weird. Pretty damn great, hilarious and well done fics about a changeling that gets tossed out of the hive, and has to learn to live among ponies.

He ends up learning that they can 'feed' freely off ponies without hurting them, if the love he takes is what freely given to him because of friendship. Not just stealing romantic love. And evetaully teaches other changeling to do this, causing many of them to abandon Crysy and prefer living openly among ponies as equals, rather then slinking along and stealing from them like thieves.

Starscream759 Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: In denial
#31258: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:52:22 PM

@Crimson And to think it all started with a discussion about Digibrony.

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IkeAndMike Exists for some reason from Earth Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#31259: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:54:35 PM

Unless there's another hive, I don't think there are any changelings that aren't loyal to Chrysalis.

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Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#31260: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:55:02 PM

As weird as the whole love thing was, I think the far more annoying thing about the villains in ACW was that despite the fact that they were. . .you know, Changelings, they didn't do any infiltration outside of the Queen.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#31261: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:57:06 PM

[up][up]

I can't imagine the entire species is contained in one kingdom.

And anyway, since Chrysalis is currently trapped in a castle of illusions, there's gotta be some interesting schisms going on back at wherever the majority of Chrysalis's subjects are.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#31262: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:59:18 PM

@ Mio, we don't know enough about the set up. It could be that she had planned to use her impersonation as Cadance to sneak more of her minions in and replace other ponies, but the shield went up before she could get them in place.

CDRW Since: May, 2016
#31263: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:00:32 PM

My headcanon is that the changeling army had to disguise themselves and move as individuals and small groups in order to move into place. There's no way they could have crossed open country without doing that. But they had to stop and set up a base camp somewhere outside of Canterlot, because the guards would caught on to the huge influx of ponies if they'd tried to bring the entire army into the city.

edited 21st Dec '13 7:01:15 PM by CDRW

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#31264: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:00:45 PM

I really wouldn't mind a nonantagonistic changeling.

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#31266: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:02:22 PM

@Orion Then again when have the Changelings ever been "friendly" like?

edited 21st Dec '13 7:03:22 PM by Starscream759

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#31267: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:02:57 PM

I'll bet Chrysalis herself circulated the rumor that there was a threat coming for Canterlot. And suggesed the expert protection of Shining Armor himself.

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#31268: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:02:58 PM

They're friendly in all the clopfics that I don't read.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#31269: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:07:47 PM

Do changelings other than Chrissy even talk?

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#31270: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:08:05 PM

@Seraphem: Well sure we can say that because off-screen almost anything can happen. What I mean is that the shapeshifting aspect she have been utilized more and better throughout the story, other then being a device that allowed for the twist and what was ultimately a trailer fake out.

[up]Only in the comics.

edited 21st Dec '13 7:08:26 PM by Mio

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#31271: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:09:45 PM

Except, how, if she was the only one who got in before the shield went up, how could it? She was stuck playing as Cadnace, and had so much attention focused on her, she couldn't really swap quickly without risking being noticed.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#31272: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:11:39 PM

Even if they don't talk during the battle, they're clearly sapient.

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Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#31273: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:14:12 PM

[up][up]She didn't have to be the only one. There could have been dozens of them, hell depending on how big Canterlot is and how coordinated and planned out the opertation was they could have infiltrated a good chunk of their army.

edited 21st Dec '13 7:14:21 PM by Mio

CDRW Since: May, 2016
#31274: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:14:22 PM

I'm gonna go and throw out a wild idea here. wild mass guessChangelings are symbolic of the brony fanbase.wild mass guess

OrionAurora Constellation from Andromeda Galaxy Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#31275: Dec 21st 2013 at 7:16:14 PM

@CDRW: Now that is scary.tongue

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