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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#31226: Dec 21st 2013 at 5:50:07 PM

\*doesn't watch review shows*

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KingKix Typing the internet since '90 from Dante City Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Typing the internet since '90
#31227: Dec 21st 2013 at 5:51:44 PM

So, where do I go on Just for fun for Power ponies thread.

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Starscream759 Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: In denial
#31228: Dec 21st 2013 at 5:52:53 PM

@Seraphem I've only watched that video once and can't recall what they said about A Canterlot Wedding anyway. And it's probably for the best from what you are saying about it.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31229: Dec 21st 2013 at 5:53:07 PM

One of his best videos which I can't remember the title of, is the one where he debunked all the complaints about the show sucking after Faust left and proceded to give a good analysis of what she herself as a writer did for the show and her weaknesses in the episodes she wrote.

In general I don't go to many reviewers as they tend to be negative.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#31230: Dec 21st 2013 at 5:53:38 PM

Finding This Day Aria randomly is what got me into MLP in the first place, but I can't help but acknowledge a few problems with that two-parter.

I spit at any moral that justifies "overprotective"(posessive is a better word) behavior. Especially in this context. What's that supposed to teach the viewers? Keep your relatives away from any relationships because they might turn out to be Skrulls?

I just got a thought, imagine if Cadance WAS Chrysallis all along and the moral was about spotting when people you care about are in abusive relationships and helping them get out. Wouldn't that be sweet?

And the second problem I got... well... Chrysallis kind of gets defeated by her own food. Which is stupid. All I got to say on that.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#31231: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:00:01 PM

No it isn't. A car runs on gas, doesn't mean it can't be taken out by a gasoline explosion.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#31232: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:01:15 PM

No it isn't. A car runs on gas, doesn't mean it can't be taken out by a gasoline explosion.

Which is why drivers that use cars recognize dangers of that. Chrysallis is the kind of driver that went "Pfft, it's leaking, and it's on fire, not my problem" right before exploding.

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#31233: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:01:21 PM

A Canterlot Wedding really isn't supposed to have a moral. It supposed to pull double duty as the big commercial for the toys that were totally not made to coincide with the then recent royal wedding, and as the big action finale for the season.

edited 21st Dec '13 6:03:52 PM by Mio

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#31234: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:05:14 PM

Just to point out, the moral wasn't that Twilight was right for being possessive. The rest of the cast thought she was being possessive, but she wasn't; she had legit reasons for being suspicious. She's known Cadance for years, so the fact that she's apparently done a complete 180 in terms of personality would be suspicious. Her biggest issue was blurting it out during the rehearsal with no evidence rather than trying to talk to someone one-on-one and explain her side of the story.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31235: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:06:14 PM

I say it did both pretty well.

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#31236: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:11:58 PM

[up]Well there are worse two-parters in this show anyway.

Either way as far as more recent episodes go I thought this one was the weakest so far. It's not really bad. Just bland. At least now we're past it and can get to more interesting stuff.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#31237: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:12:07 PM

Also, just because Chrysalis feeds on love doesn't mean that she can always absorb it in any form; once it's weaponized she probably can't eat it.

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#31238: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:14:31 PM

Also, just because Chrysalis feeds on love doesn't mean that she can always absorb it in any form; once it's weaponized she probably can't eat it.

Well that's the thing, her species run on love, she should know when it's weaponized, especially considering she gets blasted by the very same shield spell her entire elaborate plan went out of its way to destroy. And suddenly she dismisses it as ineffective? Because she doesn't think Cadance can fuel it with love? She should know better. Really, really should know better.

CDRW Since: May, 2016
#31239: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:15:48 PM

[up][up]Huh. I wonder if you could turn that around for windigos and hate.

[up] That brings up the point of she didn't get defeated by love, she got defeated by a shield spell which had been supercharged by love. If the love was busy fueling the spell, it's entirely reasonable to assume that none of contacted Chrysalis at all.

edited 21st Dec '13 6:17:49 PM by CDRW

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#31240: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:19:18 PM

[up] After she just lets it get charged right in front of her because she thinks it is impossible to fuel it with love right after draining love specifically to stop it.

This is like : "Haha, I took all your gasoline and now you can't drive on this car? What's that? You got new gasoline? Pfft, that's never going to work".

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31241: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:21:40 PM

eems logical considering how quickly their lands were rendered baren with all the hate, assuming we can take the play completely at face value, which I don't think we should.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#31242: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:23:55 PM

The comics establish that's simply her character. She is far to sure of herself, far to over confident. She gets a basic grasp of something, and figure she knows all. She's not as smart or clever as she thinks she is. It's simply who she is. She saw love only as a resource for feeding herself. Not as a power in and of itself.

Better analogy. Love is nuclear power. She thought it could only be used to fuel reactors, and that her kind were the only ones able to use it like hat. She never thought about a nuclear bomb being something it could be used for.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#31243: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:26:12 PM

[up] Failing to grasp the concept of a nuclear bomb right after spending days disabling one? That's not overconfidence, that's Too Dumb to Live and it's hard to expect this kind of idiocy from someone who beat up Celestia.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31244: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:28:18 PM

It's worth noting she herself was surprised herself to have done it, and only did so because Shining's love was so strong.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#31245: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:32:09 PM

How did she "spend days disabling one" What Shiny and cadance did, how could she predict something like that? She didn't do anything to 'disable' anything like that. And yes the beating Celestia thing was a surprise to her, because of just HOW much power she had gotten from Shinies love. But again, she fully thought only a changeling could use love like that, as a fuel.

Also, going off headcanons of a lot of people, Tia also held back from her full power, thinking Crysy was weaker then she was, and using the bare minimum she thought would be needed to avoid collateral damage with all the innocent ponies nearby.

[down]Plants with the power of Discord behind them.

edited 21st Dec '13 6:34:53 PM by Seraphem

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#31246: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:33:48 PM

Well beating up Celestia is not that big a deal these days. If a bunch of funky plants could do it I'm sure an evil fairy queen should have no problem.tongue

CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Bully in the Alley
#31247: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:34:46 PM

I always figured Chrysalis' problem is more Blue-and-Orange Morality than being shortsighted or incompetent. So it was less of a "I didn't know this could be weaponized" and more "wait, you can use love without eating it first? And it's stronger that way? WTF, Why didn't anyone tell me?"

The same thing happens in the comics; her plan hinges on getting a boost from the comet plus draining Twilight's magic so she can enslave her, but she doesn't even consider the possibility that Twilight's magic might work the way it does. She's not cocky (she has several backup plans), she's just really self-centered (which would make sense given her position and changeling social structures).

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#31248: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:37:31 PM

[up][up]To be fair, they were magical plants planted by Discord.

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#31249: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:39:11 PM

How did she "spend days disabling one" What Shiny and cadance did, how could she predict something like that?

You have watched the episode, right? It's the same bloody shield spell she's been disabling this whole time.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#31250: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:40:33 PM

I think it was more "He's been completely drained, and she's exhausted. There's no way they could just make more. Stupid wishful thinking from the vanquished."

Basically, Chrysalis's major flaw, both here and in the comic, is that she doesn't, nor does she care to, understand or respect the forces she's taking her power from. She is, at her core, a thief. Nothing more.

edited 21st Dec '13 6:40:55 PM by Enlong

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