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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

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#27202: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:25:58 AM

But bananas aren't thick enough to do that :P

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#27203: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:26:26 AM

I started something.

And now I'm ending it.

No more. tongue

edited 10th Dec '13 6:26:33 AM by edvedd

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#27204: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:28:19 AM

https://derpibooru.org/204124

Mind Blown.

And now I need to go to work. See you later.

edited 10th Dec '13 6:32:26 AM by IkeAndMike

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#27205: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:33:25 AM

Stay classy, autocaptions.

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#27207: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:35:17 AM

"I'm the princess of the ni-" (SHOT)

but seriously I need to leave. xD

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#27208: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:35:20 AM

Alright so seems there really IS a rather good sized divide between people who thing Daring being real was a good idea or not. Spent most of last night arguing with people over it.

The issue is, I really don't get the people saying it was bad, because most of them are claiming it's because Daring was simply a product of RD putting herself into the story. That the Daring we were seeing on screen was RD's take on Daring.

But, that is completely, provably, and 100% false. There was a picture of her on the cover, RD had nothing to do with visualizing Daring's look.

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#27209: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:47:53 AM

Yeah, I don't get that line of reasoning either. I think that they could've executed it better so that it made more sense in-universe, but my gripes about it have nothing to do with how RD imagined things.

Personally what I would have done is this:

It turns out that Twilight's mother is the author of the books. However, Daring Do is a real pony, and serves as the inspiration/source material for books (maybe part of the profits sponsor her globetrotting or something). That way you'd still get the whole "cast goes on an adventure with Daring Do" while solving the question of how the heck she finds time to write, and also giving Twilight's family some development.

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#27210: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:49:19 AM

I'm fine with it because then I get an author-adventurer pony, and that is all kinds of awesome :D

Yeah, I know, a silly reason, especially for someone as bitter as I am.

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#27211: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:51:34 AM

@ Japanese Teeth

That would have been a great idea!

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#27212: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:54:51 AM

It really just doesn't make sense the way it's presented.

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#27213: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:56:00 AM

I just imagine Mrs Sparkle got a lucrative deal writing Expanded Universe stories for Daring to confuse would-be villains and rivals as to which books are real and which aren't.

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#27215: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:57:28 AM

I just imagine Mrs Sparkle got a lucrative deal writing Expanded Universe stories for Daring to confuse would-be villains and rivals as to which books are real and which aren't.

Then real villains read it, try to team up with ficional ones, and it becomes very embarrassing for them.

edited 10th Dec '13 6:57:35 AM by Luminosity

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#27216: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:15:17 AM

Maybe Mrs. Sparkle is Daring's Ghost Writer? dunno how that pays or anything...

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#27217: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:17:28 AM

My main issue with it is that they didn't make enough of an effort to really make the Daring Do material connect with the setting that's already established. It feels almost like once they reach the cottage, they hop from Equestria to "Daring Do World". It's not that the two settings are totally incompatible, it's that the episode didn't really build up any connection between them. It worked in "Read it and Weep" because we only saw Daring in an Imagine Spot, so the pulpy, Indiana Jones feel of it made sense. In this case, it still works, mostly, but it felt a bit off because they translated all that hallmarks of the genre into the "real" world without adapting it in any way.

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#27219: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:21:18 AM

They would need a ghostwriter, since ghosts can't normally write.

Except in blood on the wall, maybe, but then you'd need a lot of walls. And blood.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
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#27220: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:21:47 AM

It feels almost like once they reach the cottage, they hop from Equestria to "Daring Do World".

Things would make a lot more sense if a portal to another world was involved.

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#27221: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:23:21 AM

Why does it need any build up? It fits just fine. They never stepped from one world to another. This was just another part of the larger world. I really don't see any issues with anything there.

[up]How does it need one? Nothing couldn't happen in the world, it's not just the Mane 6, there is a larger world. And I LOVE the expanding on it. What happens that makes no sense, that contradicts existing fact? Everything works perfectly fine.

edited 10th Dec '13 7:24:53 AM by Seraphem

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#27223: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:39:37 AM

Basically everything, starting with the fact that if that stuff was real, at least Twilight should have known about it.

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#27224: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:41:38 AM

It's not the facts of what happened, it's the tone. I never said that it makes no sense, just that it needed to be integrated better. As for "why does it need build up?", you could ask that about literally anything. There needs to be buildup because otherwise it distracts the audience from the story; each event needs to not only be consistent with what we've seen, but it needs to follow logically from what we already know. Up to this point, Daring Do was never treated as anything other than fictional in-universe, so suddenly saying "oh, it's actually real and takes place pretty close to where the rest of the show is set" is kind of a big jump to make without any prior foreshadowing. Does it contradict already established facts? No. But I'm not sold that it's a logical progression given what we know about Daring Do's place in the setting, either.

[up]Also this. It's implied that Twilight has studied the books pretty exhaustively (she freaking knows where Daring Do lives), and never even considered the idea of there being any truth to the books. You'd think that she'd at least have made some comment about how Yearling clearly did the research about the setting or culture or whatever. It would have given some foreshadowing to the idea that it was something that had actually happened in reality.

edited 10th Dec '13 7:53:23 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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#27225: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:47:37 AM

We don't know how far away it actually is, so can't say "pretty close" And since when has Twi been omniscient? So how does her not knowing it was real matter? It's a larger world then just the mane 6. Not everything revolves around them or involves them in some way.

All this does is make the world bigger, add more to it, make it grander.

Daring was already an established character, all this did was take the books from pure fiction, to mostly non-fiction. Pretty sure she would have changed some details, embellished, altered things a bit to make a better story. nothing at all requires them to be in another world or another setting, it's just another part of the existing one that is much larger then just them.


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