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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

jessicadicicco610 Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#200276: Nov 10th 2020 at 6:27:03 AM

Today is the 8 year anniversary of "The Crystal Empire". Even after all this time, it still holds up well.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#200277: Nov 11th 2020 at 5:32:59 AM

Post of the Day #3060

Well, Twilight is pretty broken in-universe too, so it kinda fits

Though, yeah, repeatable recurrence of already used cards is one of the most broken mechanics in just about any TCG. The cards that did that sort of thing in Magic in the old days ended up getting banned all over the place, and anything similar that is printed in the more modern sets is pretty much nerfed to hell compared to the old stuff, and can still be pretty playable.

Posted by Perpetual Lurker on Mon, 26th Dec '11 11:16:29 PM - Post #60620 in the old thread

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#200278: Nov 12th 2020 at 5:18:02 AM

Post of the Day #3061

that makes sense.. more or less. Still a few minor 'huh?" things, but mostly of the "It could make sense, but would have been nice to get a solid answer" type things.

Posted by Seraphem on 24th Feb 2016 12:57:46 PM - Post #147862 in the new thread

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#200279: Nov 12th 2020 at 5:26:20 AM

Oh, crap. We're going to hit 3 POTDS in a row! QUICK, EMERGENCY SUBJECT!

Starlight Glimmer got off too easy, change my mind.

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#200280: Nov 12th 2020 at 5:29:53 AM

I agree Starlight glimmer is the worst pony ever!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
jessicadicicco610 Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#200281: Nov 12th 2020 at 5:47:11 AM

Starlight Glimmer being being voiced by Kelly Sheridan made me think evil Barbie back when she was a villain. And then she sounded like a more mature Barbie when becoming an ally.

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#200282: Nov 12th 2020 at 7:23:55 AM

Starlight Glimmer got off too easy, change my mind.

A bit ironic, since she's one of the few characters that was shown to actually struggle with redemption.

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VeryVileVillian Since: Dec, 2017
#200283: Nov 12th 2020 at 7:35:53 AM

[up]Really? Everyone just nearly instantly forgives her and those few who don't, are forced to do it by the contrivance of the plot.

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#200284: Nov 12th 2020 at 7:44:32 AM

[up] I think they mean like, she actually struggles with relapses and the like.

Sunset and Starlight are like two halves of a perfect redemption. Sunset had people who didn't forgive her, but as a character, she was written without many flaws for a long time after she turned good. So all those people who still disliked Sunset felt more like they were part of a cheap writing tactic to make you feel sorry for her, rather than feeling like she was facing actual justice.

Starlight is someone who struggles with flaws all the way from her redemption until the end of the show.

Edited by GNinja on Nov 12th 2020 at 3:47:55 PM

Kaze ni Nare!
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#200285: Nov 12th 2020 at 8:17:56 AM

Yeah, Starlight may be forgiven but she has to learn how to not use magic to fix every problem she has, and also not bottle up her emotions instead of talking it out with people, two of the biggest issues that she has throughout her time on the show.

"Big Mac doesn't like talking? I'll magically force him to not be able to shut up."

"I'll bottle up all of my frustrations at Trixie until it becomes a problem instead of telling her how much of a jerk she's being."

"I can't pick which friend to hang out with, so I'll magically force them all to do the things I was supposed to do with them all at once and cause chaos."

There's also her being too overly-attached to her friends, like that episode where Sunburst comes over to spend time with her and instead of telling Sunburst that she feels neglected because he hangs out with Twilight, Maud, and Trixie, she tries to get them both to relive their childhood to play a game they both loved when they were foals instead of learning about the new Sunburst.

Starlight's principal flaw is that she hangs onto her past too much and lets it get in the way of her future.

Edited by theLibrarian on Nov 12th 2020 at 10:19:50 AM

Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#200286: Nov 12th 2020 at 8:35:25 AM

Starlight Glimmer got off too easy, change my mind.

Try telling that to the guy who came up with that funny picture. tongue

Top Half: Ahuizotl reading to kids in a bookstore.
Bottom Half: Starlight Glimmer saying "Sheesh, and people were complaining about my redemption? >.<"

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#200287: Nov 12th 2020 at 8:36:34 AM

[up][up] It was probably a complete coincidence, but I like that one of Starlight's earliest exchanges post-face turn was with Big Mac about his quietness, and one of Starlight's last exchanges in the show is also with Big Mac about his quietness.

Edited by GNinja on Nov 12th 2020 at 4:36:54 PM

Kaze ni Nare!
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#200288: Nov 12th 2020 at 8:38:53 AM

Yeah, how she's more understanding about "Yeah, this is a job that requires a lot of talking, and so it's probably not the best fit for you."

Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Lucky Seven
#200289: Nov 12th 2020 at 8:48:26 AM

"I'll bottle up all of my frustrations at Trixie until it becomes a problem instead of telling her how much of a jerk she's being."

Well at least we got this funny video out of it. Behold, the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic edition of How It Should Have Ended. XD

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
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#200290: Nov 12th 2020 at 9:04:32 AM

Scribbler's great.[lol] I regularly get her dubs in my YouTube recommendations now and end up watching them as regularly as my actual subscriptions.

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
DoctorWTF Since: Jul, 2020
#200292: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:11:22 AM

Try telling that to the guy who came up with that funny picture. tongue

Top Half: Ahuizotl reading to kids in a bookstore. Bottom Half: Starlight Glimmer saying "Sheesh, and people were complaining about my redemption? >.<"

The problem with Ahuizotl's redemption is that it was more of a clumsy retcon. "Daring Don't" had him trying to cause a massive 800 year heatwave, and we're supposed to believe that he was just a guardian all along? Yeah, no. Some have speculated that it was a last-resort effort to deter thieves. Trouble is, any heatwave strong enough to keep out would-be tomb raiders would cause irreparable damage to the local ecosystem (imagine how Fluttershy would have felt about that) and make life miserable for the natives.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#200293: Nov 12th 2020 at 7:26:14 PM

A like Starlight Glimmer a lot and identify a lot with her. Equality is very important to me as well. I personally think it's hypocritical to complain that everyone forgave her immediately when that was more the case for Luna, who deserved it a lot less, was forgiven basically instantly (certainly far faster than anyone else) and who was immediately made the second most powerful person in the government.

[Let's not bring politics into this - Septimus Heap]

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Nov 13th 2020 at 9:09:17 PM

VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#200294: Nov 12th 2020 at 8:41:09 PM

[up] Okay that second statement is bringing politics into a discussion where they're unneded. Not really a good idea, seriously.

Anyways, just because people think she got off easy doesn't means they think Luna herself didn't got off easy. Plus, she did already suffer a punishment for her actions for 1000 years of being sealed in the Moon with no way out.

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GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#200295: Nov 12th 2020 at 9:13:48 PM

It comes down to what people want the punishment for.

Luna was punished by being locked away in the moon for 1000 years... but that punishment had absolutely no effect on her desire to do villainy. She emerged from the moon more hateful than ever.

Kaze ni Nare!
VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#200296: Nov 12th 2020 at 9:27:34 PM

Hmm, good point there.

But then again, Luna disappeared for a whole season before she re-emerged much later. Maybe Celestia sent her to work at a McDonalds as punishment offscreen

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#200297: Nov 12th 2020 at 9:45:25 PM

Luna is literally a politician. Politics are already involved.

And yeah, being on the moon happened before her crimes in the opening.

They literally threw a party for her in the same episode.

And Luna is consistently treated as a woobie by the fandom while Starlight has these accusations thrown at her. Not to mention that Starlight is blamed for things she had no intention to do, which does matter in law. Whereas Luna was actually boasting about her intentions. And yes, I have noticed specific individuals who love Luna and hate Starlight.

VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#200298: Nov 12th 2020 at 10:00:07 PM

[up] I still don't see what's the relationship between a ruler who's only real duty is moving the moon and being fodder for Twilight's own coronation and a real life issue between presidents... I don't think you really differentiate fantasy from fact.

And the fandom is somewhat divided over Starlight, but not everyone treats her as Satan's spawn... I myself only had problems with her early redemption days being rather rushed and clearly devoid of any desire to explore the nuance. Nowadays she's cool, same with Luna.

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#200299: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:39:08 PM

Luna does not only move the moon. She is literally coruler. That IS equivalent to a president. She literally runs the country. Note how she waltzes into Ponyville and overrules everypony there, including the mayor.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#200300: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:51:28 PM

The difference is that people feel Luna "got hers". She served one thousands years of hard time. She'd been punished and, therefore, the cosmic scales have been balanced.

Nevermind that- -Celestia didn't want to banish her sister to the moon, it was the only way to stop her. If Celestia had her way, she would've zapped Luna good instead. -Luna never learned her lesson from the time spent on the moon, she just got a rainbow exorcism and/or lobotomy. -we're not exactly sure what Luna's time on the moon entailed. Or her transformation into Nightmare Moon for that matter.

Nevermind all that. All that matters is that punishment was done. Luna did a bad thing and therefore a bad thing happened to her, two wrongs made a right, justice.


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